Titania Prime Helminth

[The Waffle that Lurks]

So strangely while many other Frames have a lot of builds and discussions about then its seems our little Murder Pixie is a bit unloved.

Been trying to decide what Helminth Ability would be good for Titania Prime and really the only 2 I can really see for a DPS Razorwing Build is either Roar or Xata's Whisper. As for a CC/Survival I think Well of Life would be good since Titania's 1 and especially 3 are good CC.

Anyone have any experience with Titania Prime Builds?

[No_Quarter]

I went with Pillage on her 3.

Cause 2 reasons:
1) huge debuff, helps scale viral+heat+slash on her pew pew's
2) overshields you get in return help you take less damage to your health, further helping your energy to not get drained fast by Quick Thinking.

Think her 4 is all too good to invest into buffing it, I really feel like vs lvl 50 enemies while mowing down lvl 200's

And with how tributes work I do not think CC is that helpful, at least to me, cause they make enemies miss most shots so agro is not super needed.

Also problem with her 3 is - you want high duration/efficiency for her 4 which means rip range. But Pillage works with no range if your duration is very high which on Titania build just happen to make sense, both Narrow Minded and Primed Continuity are in there.
It works with her 1, 2 and 4, so imo best bet is to ditch 3 and use something that requires no range for it.

[The Waffle that Lurks]

Hmm...

Well I'm leaning towards Xata's Whisper for the Void Proc which attracts bullets to the affected enemies. This effectively gives you attack control.

I can see keeping 2 for the Damage Reduction Tribute though I didnt think about that.

I dont use Quick Thinking on my Build I rely more on the Evasion + Adaptation. So far my build has Aviator + Adaptation which I think DR is multiplicative not additive so they stack but with diminishing returns. After that I use Umbral Intensify and Umbral Vitality to boost Power and HP a bit. Then I have Primed Flow / Primed Continuity / Transient Fortitude / Pistol Amp / Streamline / and Narrow Minded.

My guns use Viral/Slash/Heat so no issues there as well as Multishot and Fire Rate for Rapid Procs.

Still I'm leaning hard towards Xata's Whisper to replace into her because of the Scaling Damage based on total weapon damage. So if I'm correct on the mechanics the Dex Pixia would get an extra 150% (ish) damage from whisper at 225% Power

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i used firewalker...pixie farts everywhere is hilarious

[The Waffle that Lurks]

Originally posted by Curious Pickle:

i used firewalker...pixie farts everywhere is hilarious

Ya but that's just a meme I'm actually after damage that will let me do Steel Path soon

[Just Life]

Mesa's Shooting Gallery is a good option. +Damage% and some CC.

[Erei]

Rhino's roar is, as always, a good thing. Especially since you probably already have high duration. You just need some strength.

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Originally posted by dragonraider1000:

Originally posted by Curious Pickle:

i used firewalker...pixie farts everywhere is hilarious

Ya but that's just a meme I'm actually after damage that will let me do Steel Path soon

steel path is a meme aswell, don't need any specific op build or anything of the sort

[No_Quarter]

Also think that using Nyx' Mind Control instead of Titania's 3 is just some better agro and with certain enemies it can be devastating.

If you struggle with Titania on SP feel free to contact me in game, same IGN as on steam, I'll be in the game in like 2 hours and I can link you stuff that makes Titania cheese SP.

Originally posted by Curious Pickle:

i used firewalker...pixie farts everywhere is hilarious

meme aside, firewalker gives you status immunity while you are in it so it is an actual replacement for Titania's 1, also has way way way higher base duration.

Originally posted by dragonraider1000:

I dont use Quick Thinking on my Build I rely more on the Evasion + Adaptation.

I see people using Adaptation everywhere for no obvious reasons, unless you are CONSTANTLY under fire and constantly taking damage Adaptation is a waste of a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ slot. It's a terrible mod if you get shot once or twice which is exactly what Titania does. QT is a mod that excels at that, primarily used on warframes that use invisibility so you may survive that one random shot - as QT + Primed Flow result in very high EHP and for example, way higher than anything you can put on Ivara. On Titania you already are running Primed Flow, QT is just better.

Don't use useless mods, ditch Adaptation on her, use something useful instead.

Adaptation works on Inaros, Grendel, Nidus, Oberon, Valkyr, Atlas, Hildryn and few more in certain builds, you notice that Titania's EHP is way way way below the worst one you can find on that list.

It's not like I want to tell you specifically how to do things, I am just tired of seeing Adaptation in every build like it's anywhere near a good mod - it's bad, it only works on warframes who weren't already able to die to make them die even less than that.

There are scenarios where you actually survive on something thanks to Adaptation but any other survivability mod creates more scenarios where you survive thanks to them compared to Adaptation.
Except Vigor, don't use that. Or those new mods that add tad of HP and armor, but no one uses those and for obvious reasons.

[The Waffle that Lurks]

I'll agree that adaptation isnt very useful in all situations but as I've been farming endo and credits in multi-hour Survivals I've found Adaptation to be more useful especially when I'm doing a long Corpus run. After the 45 min mark you are almost always being shot so Adaptation never drops off and with Thorns Tribute + Avaitor + 90% Resistance I only ever see my shields drop by single digits per hit (and you get clipped a lot) which has helped me survive while teammates start dropping like flies of they are in a bad spot or of the spot they are trying to bunker down on gets overrun.

But ya it's not the perfect mod for all situations but it's good to have if you are expecting a lot of bullets to be flying. I'll probably drop it after I test out Xata's Whisper because I doubt I'll be getting shot much once the Void Procs start piling up.

[No_Quarter]

Originally posted by Senor Avocado:

I don’t think DE is competent enough to make AI have better accuracy with time spent in a mission, they actually made AI miss more when you’re on the move and coupled with titania’s 50% evasion in pixie mode you rarely get hit so adaptation’s effectiveness is limited, she can potentially use that slot for energy regen augument (name escapes me)

accuracy exists in weapons, tho player movement is what matters most with some of it having 0% chance to get hit while executing it.

So just tapping slide a lil' is enough to make your life easier.

Same with Titania, just keep moving and you are fine.

If you hate WASD, use Inaros or Grendel

[lobstermadness]

try Silence with range on Titania. As you are flying by at full speed, almost everything around you cannot attack. Mirage's ability on Titania works wonders on her sustainibility. Yes adaptation is not always needed but it is easier to just leave it in your builds because you can quickly die without in many scenarios and that isnt fun. You only need a few ticks of adaptation for it to work correctly btw.

[The Waffle that Lurks]

Originally posted by Senor Avocado:

Originally posted by dragonraider1000:

I'll agree that adaptation isnt very useful in all situations but as I've been farming endo and credits in multi-hour Survivals I've found Adaptation to be more useful especially when I'm doing a long Corpus run. After the 45 min mark you are almost always being shot so Adaptation never drops off and with Thorns Tribute + Avaitor + 90% Resistance I only ever see my shields drop by single digits per hit (and you get clipped a lot) which has helped me survive while teammates start dropping like flies of they are in a bad spot or of the spot they are trying to bunker down on gets overrun.

But ya it's not the perfect mod for all situations but it's good to have if you are expecting a lot of bullets to be flying. I'll probably drop it after I test out Xata's Whisper because I doubt I'll be getting shot much once the Void Procs start piling up.

I don’t think DE is competent enough to make AI have better accuracy with time spent in a mission, they actually made AI miss more when you’re on the move and coupled with titania’s 50% evasion in pixie mode you rarely get hit so adaptation’s effectiveness is limited, she can potentially use that slot for energy regen augument (name escapes me)

Hasnt actually been my experience even with the 50% evasion. Ya with the Dust Tribute crushing their accuracy further and moving around you normally dont get shot but the situation I. Talking about is when you just have the endless stream of Corpus running into a room from 3 or 4 directions and just unloading on you.

Even with movement I still get clipped by stray shots a lot and the Adaptation lasts for 20 seconds and refreshes when hit at max rank and charges 10% per hit. Honestly it takes only a second or two to get to 90% resists and it's even more useful when you have to revive someone or if you are just in a cramped area. But again I gotta farm more stuff to feed Helminth and get Xaku to mastery before I subsume them and after a bit of testing I'll see if the Void Procs triggering Bullet Attraction will render Adaptation useless.

[No_Quarter]

Originally posted by dragonraider1000:

stream of Corpus running into a room from 3 or 4 directions and just unloading on you. .

this may be obvious but imma say it anyway, think you are in a wrong spot.

[The Waffle that Lurks]

Originally posted by No_Quarter:

Originally posted by dragonraider1000:

stream of Corpus running into a room from 3 or 4 directions and just unloading on you. .

this may be obvious but imma say it anyway, think you are in a wrong spot.

Well I get a bit bored of hiding in a room with 1 door although it becomes mandatory after an hour and a half as the enemies just start to melt you if you get touched

[Cheeseburgers & Beer]

I use Empower, get an energy orb for Energy Conversion and then use Razorwing, thinking they stack to +100% Power Strength, but I've also heard neither affect Dex Pixia so idk if it works or I'm wasting slots