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Deepbluediver 2020 年 12 月 5 日 上午 6:26
I feel like this game could really use a PAUSE function
Yesterday was at least the second time, maybe the third, when I found myself using one hand to steer my character into running laps around an area, with a Benny-Hill-style train of mobs behind me, while I desperately fumbled with my phone in the other hand trying to look up what I was supposed to do next.

Even if you have other people in your squad, the game could still pause for a few moments and just ask your teammates if they want to keep going or if they are willing to give you a minute to answer the door or douse the cat with water or whatever.
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Pakaku 2020 年 12 月 5 日 下午 6:04 
引用自 Deepbluediver
Well then just assume I'm an idiot, because I do get stuck occasionally. It would still be nice to have a pause option.
Play in solo mode and you can pause anytime. If quest missions (solo-only) don't pause if you're not in solo mode, that's the fault of the devs for not planning for that.
✨Saint✨ 2020 年 12 月 5 日 下午 6:16 
In a game where you can extract every 5 minutes in the majority of missions, you do not need a pause function imho.
Security Cam #7 (已封禁) 2020 年 12 月 6 日 上午 1:27 
I can't imagine any situation where you would have to google something in the middle of a game.
zueldebizz 2020 年 12 月 6 日 上午 1:55 
Yes,i kinda need pause in this game too.I always play WF at my work place.in a middle of a mission sometime urgent matter appears.i need to deal with it,pressing esc would only ends up in a fail mission.it always happens & i'm cool with it :')
Wintermute 2020 年 12 月 6 日 上午 7:12 
引用自 Hagrid Glodson
引用自 Wintermute
Nah, that's just authentic WF experience. Don't tell me you never did it.

I don't know of any mission that is complex enough to require me looking something up mid-mission. Beforehand, yes.
Lua spy? Lua challenges? Lua in general?

Then there was that one time I valtzed into sortie Raptor, and realized he got reworked. Was the intense googling moment.
76561199026222494 2020 年 12 月 6 日 上午 8:02 
I can't imagine any situation where you would have to google something in the middle of a game.
bugs man... BUGS!
i was stuck behind a door, just a random door that refused to open no matter what i did.
googling happened and long story short....i got nothing and had to abort mission.
later discovered it was chinese vpn causing some sort of bug where doors won't happen, found it out in warframe.forums
Deepbluediver 2020 年 12 月 6 日 上午 8:42 
引用自 Saint
In a game where you can extract every 5 minutes in the majority of missions, you do not need a pause function imho.
How many people who come to your door are willing to wait 5 minutes for you to let them in?

Regarding in-game stuff though, recently I've been stuck on a boss that appeared to be undamagable in the second phase, and I got locked behind a door that permanently closed after a short time, but the mission didn't end and there was no indication that the way forward was closed off entirely.

引用自 Pakaku
Play in solo mode and you can pause anytime.
Yes, but I don't WANT to play in solo-mode. I like it when people join me because (A) it's more fun, and (B) I can sometimes learn something from them.
And the missions where I end up really-and-truly stuck are fairly few and far between.
最后由 Deepbluediver 编辑于; 2020 年 12 月 6 日 上午 8:44
Galroche 2020 年 12 月 6 日 上午 8:53 
well if you don't want to play solo then deal with your thing before starting a game. who would want to start a mission then have to wait forever because a random want to go watch a movie.
Cat® 2020 年 12 月 6 日 上午 11:30 
引用自 Galroche
well if you don't want to play solo then deal with your thing before starting a game. who would want to start a mission then have to wait forever because a random want to go watch a movie.

It is astounding how little people respect others' time online. Someone in dota once wanted 17 minutes to eat dinner with his family, the game had only gone on for 12 minutes. Unless I'm being invited to eat dinner too I'd rather play the game.
Deepbluediver 2020 年 12 月 6 日 上午 11:42 
引用自 Cat®
引用自 Galroche
well if you don't want to play solo then deal with your thing before starting a game. who would want to start a mission then have to wait forever because a random want to go watch a movie.
It is astounding how little people respect others' time online. Someone in dota once wanted 17 minutes to eat dinner with his family, the game had only gone on for 12 minutes. Unless I'm being invited to eat dinner too I'd rather play the game.
In DotA you can unpause- you're not required to wait, and each player has a limited number of pauses as well.

I'm not talking about one person being able to force others to wait indefinitely, I'm talking about the option to go answer the door, or if you are alone being able to stop and look something up. Is my request really that much of an inconvenience for you?
最后由 Deepbluediver 编辑于; 2020 年 12 月 6 日 上午 11:43
Zeddy 2020 年 12 月 6 日 上午 11:46 
I've gotten in the habit of using Limbo if I expect to need to pause but in open worlds.
Cat® 2020 年 12 月 6 日 下午 12:00 
引用自 Deepbluediver
引用自 Cat®
It is astounding how little people respect others' time online. Someone in dota once wanted 17 minutes to eat dinner with his family, the game had only gone on for 12 minutes. Unless I'm being invited to eat dinner too I'd rather play the game.
In DotA you can unpause- you're not required to wait, and each player has a limited number of pauses as well.

I'm not talking about one person being able to force others to wait indefinitely, I'm talking about the option to go answer the door, or if you are alone being able to stop and look something up. Is my request really that much of an inconvenience for you?

Well, yes. Because you don't lose anything from quitting, but if you prevent others from playing the game then they are losing something; their time. Even beyond the disrespect of assuming in a group of four that your time is more important than the other three's collective time; breaking up the pace even for legitimate reasons is detrimental to the enjoyment of the other players.

Warframe is a very fast-paced game, sure, pausing in a 25 minute survival mission between friends is one thing; but any stranger imposing that even for a few seconds can impact the enjoyment of other players. Sure, not by much, but a little. And a little every other game over one session turns into a lot. If it's a system like Dota 2's where anyone can pause and anyone can unpause; it'd only be useful if all four agree to it. If only one person disagrees it'd be a useless feature in that particular session. But the impact it then has on the 1-3 players who disagree is persistent regardless.

So, yes, it is unreasonable. This game is hardly complex, you shoot the bad guy and run towards the map marker. I refer back to my earlier post that you, personally, don't need to google anything to figure out a mission; you are equipped with all the tools you need to figure it out in-mission. There is no reason to pause other than personal ones, and if someone puts their personal preference over that of someone else that's unfair to them. There are plenty of times I've wanted to pause, but I recognise if I had that capacity I'd be negatively impacting the enjoyment of the other players. That'd be selfish.

Now, this is of course all a theoretical mind exercise because the reality of the situation is that there is a pause in this game. It's available when you play in Solo mode. I saw you said you prefer to play with other people and then directed at you I'd say you should decide whether you think the pause is more or less important than playing with people. Because that's the real practical decision you have to make.

A month ago I was waiting for a phonecall, and while I was waiting I played some Warframe; in Solo mode because I knew I'd need to pause for that phonecall eventually. That seemed fair to me.
Deepbluediver 2020 年 12 月 6 日 下午 1:23 
引用自 Cat®
引用自 Deepbluediver
In DotA you can unpause- you're not required to wait, and each player has a limited number of pauses as well.

I'm not talking about one person being able to force others to wait indefinitely, I'm talking about the option to go answer the door, or if you are alone being able to stop and look something up. Is my request really that much of an inconvenience for you?
Well, yes. Because you don't lose anything from quitting, but if you prevent others from playing the game then they are losing something; their time. Even beyond the disrespect of assuming in a group of four that your time is more important than the other three's collective time; breaking up the pace even for legitimate reasons is detrimental to the enjoyment of the other players.
I lose my time, and while I don't value my time over someone else's, if I lose several minutes or longer it adds up and decreases my enjoyment of the game. Since I'm new I soften spend a while in each level scouting around and hoovering up all the resources, so if feels like quite a burden if I had to abandon all that 50 yards from the finish line.
And again, these were missions where I was alone, albeit not in solo-mode. If there had been other people, I could have just followed their lead, and then I wouldn't have a reason to pause anyway.

This game is hardly complex, you shoot the bad guy and run towards the map marker.
I refer back to my earlier post that you, personally, don't need to google anything to figure out a mission; you are equipped with all the tools you need to figure it out in-mission.
In the two examples I gave, the boss I was shooting was invulnerable (Zealoid Prelate assassination mission), and the game was other bugged or extremely poorly coded (Ayatan treasure weekly quest) and I was locked out of forward progression with no indication that I had to abort the mission and restart.

A month ago I was waiting for a phonecall, and while I was waiting I played some Warframe; in Solo mode because I knew I'd need to pause for that phonecall eventually. That seemed fair to me.
Yesterday the FedEx man came by to deliver a package- are you suggesting I stop playing Warframe for an entire week every time I order something on the off-chance it shows up when I'm busy?
最后由 Deepbluediver 编辑于; 2020 年 12 月 6 日 下午 1:32
injected11 2020 年 12 月 6 日 下午 1:48 
引用自 Deepbluediver
A month ago I was waiting for a phonecall, and while I was waiting I played some Warframe; in Solo mode because I knew I'd need to pause for that phonecall eventually. That seemed fair to me.
Yesterday the FedEx man came by to deliver a package- are you suggesting I stop playing Warframe for an entire week every time I order something on the off-chance it shows up when I'm busy?
No, he very clearly suggested you play solo mode. You keep saying you respect other people's time, yet everything else you say only focuses on you you you. Your wasted time is your problem, stop trying to make it our problem too.
Cat® 2020 年 12 月 6 日 下午 2:21 
引用自 injected11
引用自 Deepbluediver

Yesterday the FedEx man came by to deliver a package- are you suggesting I stop playing Warframe for an entire week every time I order something on the off-chance it shows up when I'm busy?
No, he very clearly suggested you play solo mode. You keep saying you respect other people's time, yet everything else you say only focuses on you you you. Your wasted time is your problem, stop trying to make it our problem too.

Bingo.
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