Exploit or not on Index?

[Beduin]

I know dozen different frames and weapons good for farming Index. And all them ok for my opinion.
But now more popular become sefl-damagaing Trinity Link + Castanas build - you just stay in 1 place and kill all mobs damaging yourself. For 1-2 second - 1-3 kills easy. I think this is exploit. Couse SELFDAMAGING and get kills not gameplay.
If you thinking I`m noob that can`t find how farm this - don`t worry. I have this build on myself long before it become known. And using it 2-3 times. It so boring.
Aviaotr + radiation resistance + jumping made your almost afk dominating (castanas drop 2-3 whith each can deal 15-22k damage, max 6 ). So 2 shoots, jump, alt fire detonate - kill all target in link area (50+ radius). Repeat. And this is trin. It not have problem whith energy. So recasting link unlimited time.

[Beduin]

~FieryFox~ původně napsal:

yeah loki switch teleport augment giving invinibility + trinity self damage= map clear

It not needed. This is point. Solo trinity selfdamageing killing whole map for 2-3 second. And if you do right you damage target on 100k+ and on 10-15 (so low) to you.

[Archwraith]

So we're now calling "one of the most efficient way of going through mission" an exploit now?

[Beduin]

«Wodan» původně napsal:

On topic of the opening post. Trinity hurting themselves to kill everything else has been around for years.

I think you wrong. I only see 2 trinity using on Index in last years - as energy regen spam and as coop whith banshe and maxed str Energy Vampire, couse it deal % damage from max target HP. So on 1 lvl it deal 100 damage on 100 lvl mob it same skill deal (as example) 1000 damage. And banshe sonar give this numbers insany on 300-500 lvl mobs. In right mods this skill can spamekill any target. But it need time, targeting, skill using few time and so on.
Menttion new build as I know only exist half year. And only last few weeks it starting using very often.

[Beduin]

Archwraith původně napsal:

So we're now calling "one of the most efficient way of going through mission" an exploit now?

I asking what is it. For me it look like exploit. For most answers there - not. Best for me hear what is it from developers team (or represented people).

[«Wodan»]

Jun 28, 2017 is when you started playing it looks like, or close to that. I can't be arsed to look through your achievements for the exact date. Now I understand you think you found some new exploit but I wouldn't exactly be telling someone else who has been part of the Warframe community for over 4 years that he is wrong.

Trinity hurting themselves to kill everyone else is not new. You obviously didn't play when Trinity's Blessing was a 100% damage reduction and not only 75%.

I'd hate to sound like a ♥♥♥♥ but I'm not going to deal with someone telling me I am wrong. Either the Trinity is getting invincibility by other means. (Abilities from other Warframes) or they aren't doing enough self damage to actually kill themself.

[Beduin]

«Wodan» původně napsal:

Jun 28, 2017 is when you started playing it looks like, or close to that. I can't be arsed to look through your achievements for the exact date. Now I understand you think you found some new exploit but I wouldn't exactly be telling someone else who has been part of the Warframe community for over 4 years that he is wrong.

Trinity hurting themselves to kill everyone else is not new. You obviously didn't play when Trinity's Blessing was a 100% damage reduction and not only 75%.

I'd hate to sound like a ♥♥♥♥ but I'm not going to deal with someone telling me I am wrong. Either the Trinity is getting invincibility by other means. (Abilities from other Warframes) or they aren't doing enough self damage to actually kill themself.

I play from early beta. I remember when Warframe looks like ugly browser-based trash whith a few frames only. When there was 1 corpus-like very dark map. It not my fault that steam and achievement link start working whith this game a few years after it appear.
I looking exploit couse I good person whith good understanding how exploits, cheats, games breaking mechanics and so on can ruin any good game. I see this sooo many times. From simple CS to some gigantic potential MMO. And I see many times when people play in some game aspects that give easy achievement things and after they was banned or exsecutted other way (money reset, items resets, progress reset) for using some exploits and so on. And some things was not so easy obviusly. As example of this game in past most credits you get from PVP wars. And it was incredibly bugged. Rewards was millions for 1 play-win. And many players use host-migration-lagging things to drop enemys and easy win matches and get all reward. And after DE says about this as exploit. Some was even banned. SO using weak points of game (host-client not ideal method of connection) become exploit. And this thing not was 1 day and DE - "Players abusing host-clinet in PVP - we closing". Not. This thing was very-very long.

[AnonumusSoldier]

trash535 původně napsal:

AnonumusSoldier původně napsal:

So I take it you are now the new weekly complaint thread maker?

If you don't like it, don't play it. Simple as that. Don't let let the door hit you where the good Lord split ya.

I don`t like it and not play it. I just know HOW it working, how made it, what mods need, what damage dealing and other things.
And NOT YOU telling to what not doing another people in game. I same player as you. Have same rights and possibilitis. In my country telling "Don`t say me what to do and I don`t tell you where to going".
I say my opinion. And did this in QUESTION form. I think this look as exploit. I see some people don`t see this. It thier rights. But I don`t tell them - you exploiters don`t play, don`t write, don`t breath and other stupid direction orders.

But thats exactly what YOU are doing, complaining about a game mechanic and saying people shouldnt be allowed to do that. /logic

bottom line you are a hypocratic troll and these threads are getting old.

[Beduin]

AnonumusSoldier původně napsal:

trash535 původně napsal:

I don`t like it and not play it. I just know HOW it working, how made it, what mods need, what damage dealing and other things.
And NOT YOU telling to what not doing another people in game. I same player as you. Have same rights and possibilitis. In my country telling "Don`t say me what to do and I don`t tell you where to going".
I say my opinion. And did this in QUESTION form. I think this look as exploit. I see some people don`t see this. It thier rights. But I don`t tell them - you exploiters don`t play, don`t write, don`t breath and other stupid direction orders.

But thats exactly what YOU are doing, complaining about a game mechanic and saying people shouldnt be allowed to do that. /logic

bottom line you are a hypocratic troll and these threads are getting old.

I ask. If you blind and not see ? - this is your problem. And when you write in every post "troll"-"troll"... it look like when thieft first scream about thiefing.

[Raza]

so let me get this right:
a very specific build
works as intended
build exactly for what situation u mentioned
....what's the problem again?

[Ivara Ara]

the7shadow původně napsal:

so let me get this right:
a very specific build
works as intended
build exactly for what situation u mentioned
....what's the problem again?

Everything.

[Hookworm]

if u think this build is boring for you why did you copy that mindlessly in the first place?
and that link thingy is very old now, its as old as the trinity itselft. The main idea was the bless invincibility, but the devs nerfed that and after we have got so many great one-button-press map killer frames that this link-trin wasnt as effective as before and thats why it disappeared.

why do i think that u r just bvtthvrt, because u copied a build from YT and it become so popular these days and u think its not very original now so u create trash posts about this hoping that a couple people would feel the same... pathetic

[WereChicken]

In the words of a great lady, warframe is about as balanced as the Anglo-Zanzibar war

[primobrainlet]

WereChicken původně napsal:

In the words of a great lady, warframe is about as balanced as the Anglo-Zanzibar war

perfect. balance.

[Beduin]

Hookworm původně napsal:

if u think this build is boring for you why did you copy that mindlessly in the first place?
and that link thingy is very old now, its as old as the trinity itselft. The main idea was the bless invincibility, but the devs nerfed that and after we have got so many great one-button-press map killer frames that this link-trin wasnt as effective as before and thats why it disappeared.

why do i think that u r just bvtthvrt, because u copied a build from YT and it become so popular these days and u think its not very original now so u create trash posts about this hoping that a couple people would feel the same... pathetic

I have 2 years 2 riven on castanas. I for fun trying selling both whith exelent for this weapon 3+ and 1 negative (fly speed on one and status duration on another) for 30 plat each. For more then 3 month selling I never give any ask about this. No one know about this method Index farm exept top guilds and 10-15 framebuilders who like runing different not imba build looking new interesting ideas and working synergys. I do this too. I told I know this build half year. Not selling 2 castanas was idea finding how I can find usefull this riven and weapon for me. And find it on Trinity link selfdamaging. Firstly trying casual pve - but it not effective as I thining. So I try thinking where I can do 2-3 targets and find this on Index using. But you can say anything. You telepat and mindknown all people of the world. It well known fact... or you just idiot who think "damn he public disscussion such pression 3 minutes 500k credit farm"!!! and angy write your ♥♥♥♥ there. As do some trolls a little early before you.
I go there couse I see how Castanas riven go urgent up to 300-400 and even 700 plat. I understand why, couse no othere reason for such thing. No real modifer changes was made on this weapon. Then I going in my main limbo farmer build on Index and see in every second Index - stay lazy trinity that killing 1-4 enemys in same time. I don`t like this, don`t play this build myself, couse I give info why already. So I as normal player going to steam forum of this game and ask question. I don`t know that this place totalitarity troll area, where normal players can`t ask questing about legitimity aspects of gameplay. Sorry, I was informed - "not going to Warframe steam forum section - there only trolls and idiots sits, who nothing know about game" - sorry that I don`t listen my guildmates and try finding on official place of game area for disscussion.