Is it just me or daily standing should NOT be capped?

[Platinum_Gh0st]

I love grinding and I hate having a limit on it for no apparent reason. The main reason I made this discussion because im forced to be aquainted with the danm Enrati family for the hemlinth system and I have to wait for it to fill every single day...I dont care about the Enrati family just gimme my hemlinth system!

[[Vilu]]

Mooman eredeti hozzászólása:

It's the carrot on the stick to raise your MR, more gear means your more likely to buy slots/potatoes/forma etc.

Sorry for nitpicking, but DE doesn't get any money from people buying those. DE gets money when people buy plat, prime access, prime vaults or their store bundles (i.e deimos supporter bundle). It doesn't really matter to DE what you do with, or when you spend the plat.

tl;dr DE gets money when you buy plat, not when you spend plat.

[JCTiger0]

Taddy Mason eredeti hozzászólása:

I think the daily standing cap should just be half of your daily operator focus cap plus 1000 per MR level once you unlock your operator. That’d put it at around 120k-150k per day. Plenty for everyone and still doesn’t let you bust thru everything too fast. It’s 99k standing just to go from level 4 to level 5 with a faction

i think the default standing cap should be around 30k-50k + 1000 per mr rank, the numbers you're suggesting will get you to max standing with a syndicate in one day where it should take at lest three.

[Taddy Mason]

JCTiger0 eredeti hozzászólása:

Taddy Mason eredeti hozzászólása:

I think the daily standing cap should just be half of your daily operator focus cap plus 1000 per MR level once you unlock your operator. That’d put it at around 120k-150k per day. Plenty for everyone and still doesn’t let you bust thru everything too fast. It’s 99k standing just to go from level 4 to level 5 with a faction

i think the default standing cap should be around 30k-50k + 1000 per mr rank, the numbers you're suggesting will get you to max standing with a syndicate in one day where it should take at lest three.

No they wouldn’t. It’s 5k, 22k, 77k, and then 99k to reach top standing. You can’t do that in a day even with the numbers I suggested. It would take at least 2 days. Besides, that’s just to reach max standing-that doesn’t include all the standing you’d have to spend on blueprints and other stuff if you wanted it (which I assumed one would-otherwise why are you climbing the ranks with them?)

[Taddy Mason]

No_Quarter eredeti hozzászólása:

Taddy Mason eredeti hozzászólása:

That’s the problem-you can’t cash them out if you hit your standing cap for the day.

You also can catch fish and mine for ore, gems, or minerals and trade those in for standing-it still doesn’t help someone who’s stuck waiting for tomorrow to turn all that stuff in at once and then wait for the day after that to do it again. Having a stockpile of stuff you can turn in within seconds and hit your daily standing cap again DISCOURAGES coming back day after day to play the game because you just have to wait til tomorrow again to get whatever you’re going after but don’t have the standing cap to reach. A solid day of playing/farming can get you a solid week’s worth of stuff to turn in for standing depending on what your cap is and what you were doing-and if you’re just trying to get something from one of the open world content, then you’re gonna get frustrated and bored with the game because it’s acting like a crappy mobile game that artificially timegates you and not a game that actually wants you to keep playing it.

There should be a focus on encouraging players to play daily rather than just getting them to log in for a few minutes, hit their standing cap, and come back tomorrow.

1) you calling it a problem does not make it a problem
2) daily cap encourages players to return, very reason they exist, Warframe by design is intended to be played daily and not in one sitting. Deal with it or find a game that suits you because those are words by Steve Sinclair, the creative director of DE - game is designed to be played daily.

SImaris even encourages daily targets with bonus points on top of daily standing.

Problem you are pointing at is very narrow as YOU are done with everything else but Deimos and you got nothing else to do. And game is not designed to be played like that, Deimos is placed to be farmed alongside PoE, Fortuna, Simaris, Syndicates and all the other doodads you can farm.

There, when you are done with one - you switch to another.

Your dynamic of playing just one thing until you burn it out just so you can be done with it - DE does not want players to play like that and it's a very bad way to design a F2P game..

I do not understand how you can see problem YOU face and think so narrowly that everyone has issues with that. Truth is - vast majority of active players have way more on their hand than Deimos.

I disagree with your opinion, it is not a game problem, it's a problem with completionist attitude and the far edge of being addicted to completing the game - and this game is not all that great for that. You are not entitled to get it all and get it right now, and I am happy this game does not appeal to those people who just start skreeching and blaming everything when they do not get it.

The OP called it a problem-I just went along with it for the sake of my point. My entire comment was written from what I assumed the OP’s point of view was.

I don’t think it’s a problem-but I also play every day and know I’ll continue doing so and that means standing caps and timegates don’t matter. I’m gonna keep playing the game and tomorrow is always a day away.

The rest of your comment is just assumptions and projections based off those assumptions, so I’m not gonna bother touching on it-I didn’t say and I don’t think those things. You inferred something that I didn’t imply. Reread my comment-nothing in it refers to me because I was never talking about myself. I was trying to convey how I imagined others must feel-especially at the lower ranks.

[JHarlequin]

Not sure of all the exact reasons for daily standing limits, but the side effects are that you don't focus on one thing all day until it's done.

It isn't just to slow you down and make you play more days, it is so that you don't do 20 hour sessions just to instantly max out whatever you are currently working on.

Another side effect is that so many standings are also a currency and some of the things you can buy are actually quite valuable and tradable to people that will pay plat. It would prevent one person from just grinding for days and making hundreds of plat every time a new item is added to any faction.

[JCTiger0]

Taddy Mason eredeti hozzászólása:

JCTiger0 eredeti hozzászólása:

i think the default standing cap should be around 30k-50k + 1000 per mr rank, the numbers you're suggesting will get you to max standing with a syndicate in one day where it should take at lest three.

No they wouldn’t. It’s 5k, 22k, 77k, and then 99k to reach top standing. You can’t do that in a day even with the numbers I suggested. It would take at least 2 days. Besides, that’s just to reach max standing-that doesn’t include all the standing you’d have to spend on blueprints and other stuff if you wanted it (which I assumed one would-otherwise why are you climbing the ranks with them?)

I should have specified that i meant when at rank 5, i forgot to even consider staring from rank 1.

So in the case where a rank 1 is getting standing using your lowest number of 120k, they would go up three ranks in a day and would only need around 83k to get to max after that.

I think that's a bit fast but looking at my lowest number of 30k you would still go up two ranks in one day, two more days to rank up again, after that it would 4 more days totaling up to 7 days which i think is slow.

if we go up to 50k you rank up twice in one day, take two more days to rank up and then two more after that leading to five days to get to max which i think would be about right.

Keep in mind these are mr one numbers so it would go faster for higher ranks, i also realize that your number was meant for after unlocking operator but i personally think making my numbers the all around default would be better.

[Welly]

This whole expansion of the Deimos is very repetitve, as it was with the last 2 open world ideas. There is nothing innovative about this formula, I will say that I 100% agree with you, the time gate mechanics that they constantly put in place to pad the player base numbers is getting pathetic.

IMO I love the game for what It can be, that's why I come back here and there to check what's up but they just KEEP doing the same stuff Over and Over and OVER I just really don't understand this.

The main selling factor of this expansion was the Hem system, that one aspect should have had a quest to introduce and no time gated gameplay ( for MR8 +), but here we are.

Everything else could of had it's rank up requirements, but not the Hem system.

[Platinum_Gh0st]

No_Quarter eredeti hozzászólása:

Taddy Mason eredeti hozzászólása:

That’s the problem-you can’t cash them out if you hit your standing cap for the day.

You also can catch fish and mine for ore, gems, or minerals and trade those in for standing-it still doesn’t help someone who’s stuck waiting for tomorrow to turn all that stuff in at once and then wait for the day after that to do it again. Having a stockpile of stuff you can turn in within seconds and hit your daily standing cap again DISCOURAGES coming back day after day to play the game because you just have to wait til tomorrow again to get whatever you’re going after but don’t have the standing cap to reach. A solid day of playing/farming can get you a solid week’s worth of stuff to turn in for standing depending on what your cap is and what you were doing-and if you’re just trying to get something from one of the open world content, then you’re gonna get frustrated and bored with the game because it’s acting like a crappy mobile game that artificially timegates you and not a game that actually wants you to keep playing it.

There should be a focus on encouraging players to play daily rather than just getting them to log in for a few minutes, hit their standing cap, and come back tomorrow.

1) you calling it a problem does not make it a problem
2) daily cap encourages players to return, very reason they exist, Warframe by design is intended to be played daily and not in one sitting. Deal with it or find a game that suits you because those are words by Steve Sinclair, the creative director of DE - game is designed to be played daily.

SImaris even encourages daily targets with bonus points on top of daily standing.

Problem you are pointing at is very narrow as YOU are done with everything else but Deimos and you got nothing else to do. And game is not designed to be played like that, Deimos is placed to be farmed alongside PoE, Fortuna, Simaris, Syndicates and all the other doodads you can farm.

There, when you are done with one - you switch to another.

Your dynamic of playing just one thing until you burn it out just so you can be done with it - DE does not want players to play like that and it's a very bad way to design a F2P game..

I do not understand how you can see problem YOU face and think so narrowly that everyone has issues with that. Truth is - vast majority of active players have way more on their hand than Deimos.

I disagree with your opinion, it is not a game problem, it's a problem with completionist attitude and the far edge of being addicted to completing the game - and this game is not all that great for that. You are not entitled to get it all and get it right now, and I am happy this game does not appeal to those people who just start skreeching and blaming everything when they do not get it.

I agree with everything but bottom. I can never be completonist. ever. I never complete 100% of a game cause im scared ill nothing left to do. But yea I got a lot of things to do in the game but that helminth system made me go NUTS when I heard what you can do with it. I grinded like crazy, still dont have it lol. But, im not really entitled im more on earning things than just having handed out to me but honestly when saw the things for the helminth system I nearly exploded. Annnnnnd this post was born.

[Montiblanc]

i skipped both helminth & necramech, too much hassle, good luck to participation %

[Platinum_Gh0st]

Montiblanc eredeti hozzászólása:

i skipped both helminth & necramech, too much hassle, good luck to participation %

what u mean necramach? Dont tell me you can make those...

[Lachanche]

im doing solaris united and the vega toroid farming is driving me insane. 1% chance to drop from enemies slowly respawning in groups of 4.

the cap is there to dilute content and it makes sense, but when the only way to rank up your reputation is a ridiculously tedious and mind numbing process you are just salting the wound.

This is not content gating anymore this is just ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ boring content.