*SPOILERS* So what is Lotus?

[Wintermute]

Spolers, duh. Go away.











What is Lotus exactly? We know her sentient name is Natah. Yet, she also is, or at least was, Margulis - archimedean of Orokin era. That's how Ballas referred to her in Apostasy.

My undersanding of Apostasy was that Natah - sentient part - somehow resurrected Margulis after she was executed, and fused with her to become Lotus and infiltrate Tenno - succesfuly. I thought the mask part was "Natah", and that in Apostasy Ballas separated them, leaving Natah hanging and Margulis free.

Yet this is clearly not the case in Sacrifice. Lotus "human" body apparently wasn't human after all - just a mimicry of sentient corpus.

So, my undersanding now is that Margulis is fully dead, and Ballas merely fell for the next closest thing - Natah. Which is fully fake, yet apaprently close enough to betray entire Orokin empire for it.

And what the ♥♥♥♥ happened to the space mom? She acts like she had hard reset or something, completely forgetting her Lotus personality and ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ off back home. What happened to her between Apostasy and Sacrifice?

[Apollomere]

^ till nex time tune in to find out in the next cinematic quest! probably coming in 2019-2020 *end credits*

[Grey Star, The Rival Defender]

Well, Ballas knew where to leave information for Hunhow. He probably also brought Lotus to Hunhow to get a hard reset on his daughter.

"The rest will declare you riven, and want to reclaim you. I will not be able to stop them."

[Walrus-Sama]

The headcrab Lotus helmet seems important.

[Apollomere]

Originally posted by Walrus-Sama:

The headcrab Lotus helmet seems important.

glad im not the only one who thought that!

[Wintermute]

Originally posted by Grey Star, the Rival Defender:

"The rest will declare you riven, and want to reclaim you. I will not be able to stop them."

Where's that from?

[Grey Star, The Rival Defender]

Originally posted by Wintermute:

Originally posted by Grey Star, the Rival Defender:

"The rest will declare you riven, and want to reclaim you. I will not be able to stop them."

Where's that from?

Hunhow says it in the Second Dream.

Come to think of it, Ballas is aware that the Lotus not Margulis. In Apostacy he says "Imprisoned, just like she was". And his final words in the Sacrifice are about her. The way he speaks to the Lotus seems to reflect the similarities to Margulis, but knowing she's not her.

[Wintermute]

It's a shame they didn't link Stalker to the quest - still waiting to know who he is.

And Man in the Wall. One can never have enough Man in the Wall.

[Siviks, Lost to None]

Originally posted by Wintermute:

It's a shame they didn't link Stalker to the quest - still waiting to know who he is.

And Man in the Wall. One can never have enough Man in the Wall.

Incase you havent already knew this, the stalker was A tenno or some sort of guardian that was present during the uprising of the tenno. While the tenno we off killing the rest of the Orokin, the one soon to be known as the stalker refused to help the tenno and went into hiding, vowing veangence against all other tenno

[Wintermute]

Originally posted by Daniel J. D'Arby:

Originally posted by Wintermute:

It's a shame they didn't link Stalker to the quest - still waiting to know who he is.

And Man in the Wall. One can never have enough Man in the Wall.

Incase you havent already knew this, the stalker was A tenno or some sort of guardian that was present during the uprising of the tenno. While the tenno we off killing the rest of the Orokin, the one soon to be known as the stalker refused to help the tenno and went into hiding, vowing veangence against all other tenno

Yeah, I know that, but that's not very specific.

Main question I have, how did he manage to transcend into warframe of his own? We know that it was possible for Orokin to forcefully transcend ones mind into things like Silver Grove - but who exactly did this with Stalker, and for what end? Since he isn't Tenno, I doubt he did it on his own.

Or was he turned into warframe like Umbra was? There's still a lot of potential to Stalker's character - that, so far, isn't realised.

[JCTiger0]

Originally posted by Wintermute:

Originally posted by Daniel J. D'Arby:

Incase you havent already knew this, the stalker was A tenno or some sort of guardian that was present during the uprising of the tenno. While the tenno we off killing the rest of the Orokin, the one soon to be known as the stalker refused to help the tenno and went into hiding, vowing veangence against all other tenno

Yeah, I know that, but that's not very specific.

Main question I have, how did he manage to transcend into warframe of his own? We know that it was possible for Orokin to forcefully transcend ones mind into things like Silver Grove - but who exactly did this with Stalker, and for what end? Since he isn't Tenno, I doubt he did it on his own.

Or was he turned into warframe like Umbra was? There's still a lot of potential to Stalker's character - that, so far, isn't realised.

they didn't forcefully trancefer the one in the silver grove into it she trancefered into titania and got stuck in the grove

[primobrainlet]

Lotus wanted to do some purple megatron cosplay, and now we are here

she is a sentient created by the sentients to controll the only thing stopping the sentients, the tenno

I do not think she mind controlled or forced us to do anything like hunhow did stalker, her betrayal and inability to stop us from boarding the ship in TWW makes it seem like she just led us. She probably did this by assuming the form of margulis and pretending to be her. Ballas switched sides and realised this. Then lotus betrayed the sentients

Personalluy, I think that she was in margulis form even after she put the tenno to bed, but only as they awoke assumed the lotus form