What's the best and worst frame in the game?

[Hot Malehusband Pizza Baker]

Both in appearance and strength.

So far I have seen that:
Octavia is the strongest frame, I have 70% game time on her and I never die and worst is Mesa.
Best appearance is probably Inaros Prime with high aesthetics and ugliest is Saryn by most people's opinion.

What do you think?
Only objective answers please.

[RadDad]

Noone mentioned Baruuk.

Baruuk is the tank in the game when he has his 3 up and throw on 4 and even more of a tank. I don't even use 1. And it can be built for totally different play styles (not just sleep). No problems taking damage from a room full of Corpus in Steel Path.

I can't say I have a favorite though because depending on the mission and/or level, frames are built for different purposes.

[Nightflare75]

it really comes down to personal opinion, for me I don't think any of the warframes are bad.

as for me, Ash is probably the one I play the best with for frames I never use its got to be grendal and baruuk. haven't played them in ages.

[Jaynoble55]

Opprinnelig skrevet av ;2787117798303988313:

Noone mentioned Baruuk.

Baruuk is the tank in the game when he has his 3 up and throw on 4 and even more of a tank. I don't even use 1. And it can be built for totally different play styles (not just sleep). No problems taking damage from a room full of Corpus in Steel Path.

I can't say I have a favorite though because depending on the mission and/or level, frames are built for different purposes.

video or gtfo. Your not tanking anything without his 1. And with his 1 your DPS drops to zero. At least the other tank options can do something useful while tanking. Valk can also go flat immune AND puts out good dps while doing it.

Not saying brook is bad, hes just not what you are making him out to be. But if im wrong please provide a link as to how this is done and showing it done.

[RadDad]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Jaynoble55:

Opprinnelig skrevet av ;2787117798303988313:

Noone mentioned Baruuk.

Baruuk is the tank in the game when he has his 3 up and throw on 4 and even more of a tank. I don't even use 1. And it can be built for totally different play styles (not just sleep). No problems taking damage from a room full of Corpus in Steel Path.

I can't say I have a favorite though because depending on the mission and/or level, frames are built for different purposes.

video or gtfo. Your not tanking anything without his 1. And with his 1 your DPS drops to zero. At least the other tank options can do something useful while tanking. Valk can also go flat immune AND puts out good dps while doing it.

Not saying brook is bad, hes just not what you are making him out to be. But if im wrong please provide a link as to how this is done and showing it done.

I'll see if I can make a video on my slow a** system, but for now, here is where I got my build idea. Apparently, the rework made Baruuk insane.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pvbJIpJNbM&t=192s

Around 1 minute in, he describes the build. Listen to what he says about not using Elude.

[RadDad]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Jaynoble55:

Opprinnelig skrevet av ;2787117798303988313:

Noone mentioned Baruuk.

Baruuk is the tank in the game when he has his 3 up and throw on 4 and even more of a tank. I don't even use 1. And it can be built for totally different play styles (not just sleep). No problems taking damage from a room full of Corpus in Steel Path.

I can't say I have a favorite though because depending on the mission and/or level, frames are built for different purposes.

video or gtfo. Your not tanking anything without his 1. And with his 1 your DPS drops to zero. At least the other tank options can do something useful while tanking. Valk can also go flat immune AND puts out good dps while doing it.

Not saying brook is bad, hes just not what you are making him out to be. But if im wrong please provide a link as to how this is done and showing it done.

Okay, here is a quick video I just made. Not using 1 on Baruuk. Sorry for the poor quality. My CPU is over 10 years old. lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oilXpAhoxe4

[Leoscar]

Opprinnelig skrevet av KalkiKrosah:

Not to muddy the waters further but which warframes are best for the early game/low skill players and which ones are the worst in the hands of a newbie player?

Gara comes to mind: She is incredibly good and obtainable in POE.
Rhino is incredible for new players, but might lead them to developp bad habits because they rely on the 2 to tank everything.

Worse new player Warframe? Limbo can annoy other players, is very fragile (despite having a toggle god mode button).

There really isn't a frame new players should absolutly avoid. When you're starting they should just get everything they can and use what they like.

[Hot Malehusband Pizza Baker]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Leoscar:

Gara comes to mind: She is incredibly good and obtainable in POE.

I have 800 hours and still haven't got Gara.

[Leoscar]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Kiss Me Quick:

Opprinnelig skrevet av Leoscar:

Gara comes to mind: She is incredibly good and obtainable in POE.

I have 800 hours and still haven't got Gara.

You're missing on a great frame, doing a quest and a few bounties will get you all of the parts. The only actual gate to getting her is the materials, which require, if I remember well, rank 4 with Cetus.

[Hot Malehusband Pizza Baker]

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Opprinnelig skrevet av Kiss Me Quick:

I have 800 hours and still haven't got Gara.

You're missing on a great frame, doing a quest and a few bounties will get you all of the parts. The only actual gate to getting her is the materials, which require, if I remember well, rank 4 with Cetus.

What I was implying was that it's not a beginner frame if it's uncommon / hard to collect.

[Imperium]

Baruuk is probably my pick for the best frame right now. I have been clearing the Steel Path with him alone. He's really great for soloing and fun to play. So good I'm positive DE will be dropping the nerf hammer soon. Grendel in my opinion is the worst frame ever made. I just find him utterly useless for anything. Not very fun.

When it comes down to fashion, Mag with her Pneuma Skin is probably my favorite looking. Plus she's really one of the best frames to play. I agree about Saryn and being the ugliest.

[Hot Malehusband Pizza Baker]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Imperium:

I agree about Saryn and being the ugliest.

I posted Saryn as a bait, couldn't use Wisp or Mesa, would be too obvious.

[Ziden]

Can someone explain to me why Mesa is bad?
I just got her, so...

[No_Quarter]

Opprinnelig skrevet av ILsin_:

Can someone explain to me why Mesa is bad?
I just got her, so...

Only way she is "bad" is because she is broken and requires 0 brain to play with so it gets really boring after very short period of time. Highest possible damage reduction of 95%, enemies can't even attack you nearby, aimbot ult that shoots on it's own....

That's it, other than that she is good for all intents and purposes, guess a tad of an energy hog cause her 3 must be maintained and 4 sucks up even more.

Imho one thing may fix her - remove ability to cast her 4 mid air.

She is one of the strongest warframes, not the most "scalable" one, there are "weaker" warframe that scale way better for very high levels. Still, for sortie levels she has no issues, even double that, but then she falls off compared to some other frames but is still good if you can buff her with someone.

Wish next update and ability to switch some abilities we will be able to add a lot of elemental damage as buffs, spawn Nidus specter with it and you will have his 3 as a solid addon.

[Totally Innocent Chatbot]

Opprinnelig skrevet av ILsin_:

Can someone explain to me why Mesa is bad?
I just got her, so...

She isn't. No clue what OP was smoking when he wrote this. She's easily the third most powerful frame in the game, with Octavia being first (and that's solely because Octavia can stealth up and literally go AFK for 40+ seconds while forcing every enemy in sight to kill themselves) and Saryn being second.

[[88th] ColPresumptuous]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Ghin:

worst is hands down zephyr. youre basically wasting your warframe slot to be a crappy archwing

Pop your max range and duration bullet reflecting winds and make you and people within 30m radius become immortal indeffinetly outside of Infested Missions...

Worst?.. lol

No warframe is best or worst, they all have a use and theres a warframe you will never use and a warframe you will find yourself always coming back too... but what those are is different for everyone.

Basically, if you try and play WF as a ive got one frame and one frame only and thats all i need, your removing a large part of what makes WF, WF...