Jat Kittag (Vulcan Blitz) VS Fragor Prime?

[Strife]

What is better out of Jat Kittag (without Vulcan Blitz) and Fragor Prime?

What is better our of Jat Kittag (with Vulcan Blitz) and Fragor Prime?

In other words is Jat Kittag worth using over Fragor Prime with or without Vulcan Blitz?

Thanks!

[Hexo Mia]

what?

[Resident Asswhole]

Jat Kittag + Vulcan Blitz + Duration/Strength Warcry Valkyr = fun.

[Strife]

Oprindeligt skrevet af R13-The 2nd Type:

Jat Kittag + Vulcan Blitz + Duration/Strength Warcry Valkyr = fun.

Thanks for the quick reply. That does sound fun haha. Is it good for high level? and can you provide the builds? :)

[robruckus65]

fragor prime has a much higher crit chance and a higher crit multiplier adn tehy do the same base damage so fragor prime wins damage wise... vulcan blitz doesnt really make it better it just makes it alot of fun...

[Resident Asswhole]

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=923901980

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=923901956

[Alizarin]

Jat Kittag is stronger because condition overload

[RogueSoldier]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Leila Alizarin:

Jat Kittag is stronger because condition overload

^P much. I used jat kittag with vulcan blitz and condition overload on my melee built saryn and i usually one hit most enemies on sortie III/lvl 100+ enemies.

[Strife]

Oprindeligt skrevet af R13-The 2nd Type:

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=923901980

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=923901956

Thanks! Is this setup good for high level/end game or do you just use it for fun?

[Resident Asswhole]

It is fun and it is great for almost everything (milage may vary for some bosses).

[LadstonFelisGaming]

I would personally say Jat Kittag is better long-term due its enhanced CC capabilities. The guaranteed blast procs on any slam attack (this includes Stance combos that involve the head of the hammer striking the ground) are really good for generating breathing space and keeping an area locked down.

There's also a chance, depending on what type of tileset you're in at the time, of insta-killing enemies by knocking them off the map with the blast (This most often occurs by affected enemies being hurled into bottomless pits. It is also possible that you may occasionally hit an enemy hard enough that they no-clip out of the playable map).

The blast from Vulcan Blitz is a purely damaging one with no knockback effect iirc, but it's still a large amount of damage that can help moderate crowds.

[Wintermute]

Jat Kittag is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ jet-propulsion hammer. Is there really a comparison?

[Strife]

Oprindeligt skrevet af R13-The 2nd Type:

It is fun and it is great for almost everything (milage may vary for some bosses).

Also is that a good Jat Kittag build without Valkyr's War Cry or is it built around War Cry only?

[RogueSoldier]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Blackfish:

Oprindeligt skrevet af R13-The 2nd Type:

It is fun and it is great for almost everything (milage may vary for some bosses).

Also is that a good Jat Kittag build without Valkyr's War Cry or is it built around War Cry only?

You can use that build for other melee oriented frames like saryn but i'd swap a few things in an out. but yes you can.

[Strife]

Oprindeligt skrevet af RogueSoldier:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Blackfish:

Also is that a good Jat Kittag build without Valkyr's War Cry or is it built around War Cry only?

You can use that build for other melee oriented frames like saryn but i'd swap a few things in an out. but yes you can.

What should I swap out for when I'm not using War Cry but just for using the weapon itself (No Saryn or Valkyr or whatever, just the weapon)?

[Resident Asswhole]

The build I posted was with warcry in mind. I have reduced the main damage and increased the weapon speed to raise the number of hits at lower damage. Add body count and blood rush mods to incease the crits hits and you can easily out perform a high damage slow hitter.

The main point to consider when running a heavy weapon is the speed of the attacks and that is why I like using Valkyr and warcry. Inceased melee/movement speed = hella high DPS across the map. I prefer to use this melee over maintaining Hysteria and I almost always exclusively use Hysteria as a panic button.

Oprindeligt skrevet af RogueSoldier:

You can use that build for other melee oriented frames like saryn but i'd swap a few things in an out. but yes you can.

As stated here, modify the build to match the mods you have available and the frame you are planning to use.