Annoying Rhino players in the Index [SALT WARNING]

[EnderCorePL]

I just ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hate it... The Index is around for quitesome time now and people still don't understand it; THERE IS NO ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ POINT OF HOLDING MORE THAN 5-10 POINTS. You get +2 points for every 5 held, but it doesn't freakin' scale!

In almost every game there's that one permanent iron-skin rhino, who collects ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ of points (Including stealing them) and keeps them, usually until there's like 60 second left, then they die, enemy invests their point and match is over.

It annoys me to the point, that I enjoy it when Jen-Dro diguises as them and I enjoy every moment of "killing" that guy.

[Kobrakai]

I only turn in once I have 30 points. Even if there's less points needed to end it. I've lost games before because I didn't reach 30 in time. Either that or I die when there's 10 seconds left and I was holding all of the points. I just leave the game when that happens.

[GunsForBucks]

Originally posted by Nihilus:

Somehow I agree with OP, but really? OP do your research before you post something.
The bonus for points held goes up to +10 if you have 20 points. So there is for sure a reason....a good damn good reason to have 20 points on you.

But agree on the part that people are running around like mentally ill bunnies who have only 1 goel. Steal the points and don't bank them.

I go usually into index as a Rhino. (for safeguarding reasons. It's the best pick and i had cases where i was the only Rhino in the game)
Usually i write at the beginning that i can collect the points, if everyone is tagging them. But noooooo.....95% of people are ignoring this, and collecting the index points. And at the end, everyone has max 5-6 points to bank in. Game will go slow as hell.

I said only once.....ONCE that "ok, I see everyone is collecting. I will stop, and just kill and tag the points.
And surprise surprise......we lost because nobody cashed in and enemy AI could bank in a few points and we lost. People are sometimes freaking brainless biotumors.

you get an extra 2 every 5
so at 20 you would have 8 anyway the only "extra" you get is 2... and that kicks in at 15 not 20

If you want to be super efficient you would turn in at 15 and use the next 5 for the next 15 not the 20... but as someone correctly pointed out that extra 3% <or 2 points> really does not matter.

The risk is not worth the reward... how many rhinos run out there without the augment? Can you risk that in a pub?

A good Rhino is great... a bad Rhino is like a bad Limbo

The problem is the meta-newb tryhards trying to copy younewb vids

I just don't see any point to holding onto more than 5 if all you are doing is one wave and out.
I have been in matches that took 4 mins or less and we all just banked at 5 for the plus 2.. if you kill fast it just depends on the spawns... the holding on to points won't speed the game up much. This is especially true for that outdoor map where you can spend half your time looking for something to kill.

[Simbah]

I guess you are just having bad lucks finding rhinos that actually died in index. Rhino with a proper Iron Skin build is unkillable in index, and a decent player always watch the timer. I sugest you go with premades and/or clan members next time :D

[AnimusReborn]

I’m the rhino that hogs all the points but also the rhino that destroys all the brokers. I get that hogging points can piss you off but if they die there’s no excuse for you not being able to pick them up. I’ve experienced lots of players with rhino or not hog points and die anyway, but guess what, you can pick them points up. It’s very rare for brokers to cash in a lot of points as AI is retarded in picking up points and very sluggish. The real enemy is the time, not the brokers. I’ve experienced time run outs more than losing to brokers scoring more points. And again, it almost impossible for brokers to win anyways unless you’re legit that terrible along with your team.

[Rabanito]

Most people use to forget this: If you join a public match, then you should be ready to play with any kind of random teammate. You can't expect your whole team to follow your commands like if you were some kind of royalty. Believe it or not, the world doesn't revolve around you.

On the other hand, there are a few tips you could use when joining public index:

First, If you want to get carried or at least avoid doing any effort (Nobody can blame you for that btw):
Bring any warframe (it doesn't matter) and avoid getting killed by bullet jumping the whole map. NEVER get any points, but you can help a little by killing some enemies (only if you don't take too long). Maybe some points if time is running short, but the rhino (who's carrying you) should be able to prevent that.

Second, If you feel capable (for real) of carrying your whole team with a Rhino:
Put yourself a "Enemy Radar" or "Enemy Sense" mod in order to find enemies faster and avoid the "teammates stealing points" issue. Get yourself a strong weapon, my favorite is an Opticor (fully modded for radiation and doesn't need a riven).

[Cribstaxx]

I had a rhino turn in 83 points at once yesterday, was rather funny actually. It was 2nd round so he had time to amass because mess was killing everything.

[Jeff Kaos]

I play Index PUBs all the time. I usually do the first or second tier. And you can count on one hand how may times my team has actually "lost" a match. I've been on more than a few where we've failed to reach the 50 or 75 point total but this usually has more to do with people not realizing where the clock is at more than anything else. But the real issue is that OP doesn't seem to understand ANYTHING about the Index. Heck, he complains about a Rhino "stealing" points when he's already loaded up. My biggest complaint is a guy with no points dashing up and grabbing a coin when there's anther player already holding 14 coins. I don't care how many points I score or even how many kills I had in a match. I only care about the money I get when the match ends. And the faster the better. Which is why, as others have pointed out, you want one or two guys scoring all the points while everyone else does the killing.

[sal]

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[GunsForBucks]

Originally posted by sal:

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becuase it is obviously easier to click one button and go... but judging from this response I would guess you wouldn't understand that

[Rabanito]

Originally posted by sal:

Why are you doing index in pubs and not finding group in recruiting

Very simple. Because I like random players to get lots of credits too.

Where's the fun in getting rich alone if I can get rich and help random players at the same time?

[Incunabulum]

Originally posted by Bowbie:

Originally posted by BurlsoL:

How many points you have does not change the fact that a single death can cost the game.

Did DE changed something ? The few times i did high index, i won like 100 - 4. Not even close to be fun

Yeah, I don't know what these people are doing - I assume they're playing solo? Then their spectre buddies keep getting one-shot and so AnyoCorp has a lot of goals scored?

Because even in PUGs I rarely see even 25 points scored by Anyo on the Gold tier Index match. Usually its under 5.

[V.V.]

You can steal someone elses points in the Index? You're on the same freaking team, it's not a competition. Also if you're going to leave points laying around (which happens often) I'm taking them.

[talkingmute]

Originally posted by 🐺 V.V.:

You can steal someone elses points in the Index? You're on the same freaking team, it's not a competition. Also if you're going to leave points laying around (which happens often) I'm taking them.

It's one thing to do that, it's another to have Rhinos litterially not shoot the enemy and just walk ontop and wait for you to kill them.

[TehStranger46]

I've also seen this happen where there is a rhino carrying a crap ton of points, but they usually turn them in to help win the match. What I do is turn in eight points at most to keep the timer up and we usually win.

[Davit]

Originally posted by BurlsoL:

Originally posted by EnderCore:

I just ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hate it... The Index is around for quitesome time now and people still don't understand it; THERE IS NO ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ POINT OF HOLDING MORE THAN 5-10 POINTS. You get +2 points for every 5 held

Not the case.
http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/The_Index

1 +0 1 +0%
5 +2 7 +40%
10 +4 14 +40%
15 +8 23 +53%
20 +10 30 +50%
25 +10 35 +40%

15 and 20 points has the highest efficiency. The only reason to turn in before 15 is to extend the clock or because you have ZERO confidence in other players not losing the match because they died with 3-5 points while you were doing most of the killing.

Additionally, enemy level scales based on the number of points earned, not number of points held. This means that by holding onto points for as long as possible you help keep enemy spawns at a similar level for longer, making it easier to gain more points, and limiting the chances of bad team members getting their ass handed to them because of higher levels or brokers being switched out.

Furthermore, one tactic (if already near the end of a round) is to get as many points as possible stored up so that they can be immediately turned in at the start of the next round for a quicker win. For mid and high risk this is common since people are often doing these with either their daily 'first mission' booster, or with other credit boosters active. Going multiple rounds means same payout but without the cost of the initial investment.


It doesn't help that you have alot of players who join up not understanding any of this, or who bring frames entirely ill-suited to Index, who then get pissy because they don't understand how scoring works.

why you not enter and play solo in the Index maybe is best than just pickpoket others players and robs some kills? mhe do something good let them players play!