Hammer Shot or Heavy Calibur

[ZedClampet]

Assuming you always yellow crit. I got no sleep last night and don't feel like doing the math haha

[Yeti.^^]

How did someone call hammer shot?Ah , a noob trap.Better go out with Heavy caliber.

[No_Quarter]

depends on a weapon, if your accuracy suffers then heavy caliber is a no no
hammer shot is good just for weapons with high crit multiplier and if you got riven with more crit damage - then it can be an overkill, but only if heavy caliber gives your troubles like it does with soma prime for some people or ferrox or javlok

once you get primed elemental mods hammer shot is kind of a waste, simple math.
So it is good for early builds

[Walrus-Sama]

Hammer Shot is a bad mod. Simply for the fact that it barely makes a difference. Litterally any other damage type mod will give better results.

Heavy Calibur is better in general, but as my knowledge of weapon moding increases I find myself useing it less often. Reason being, the negative accuracy can makes some weapons perform worse despite the extra damage, and the fact that Status is what is most important at End Game. It can work, yes. But you need to know how to use it.

[Totally Innocent Chatbot]

Heavy Caliber or any elemental mod.

[ZedClampet]

Thanks. I'm really just killing the Teralyst, which I would either way. Just wondering which was better. Sounds like Heavy Calibur.

[ZedClampet]

Originally posted by Walrus-Sama:

Hammer Shot is a bad mod. Simply for the fact that it barely makes a difference. Litterally any other damage type mod will give better results.

Heavy Calibur is better in general, but as my knowledge of weapon moding increases I find myself useing it less often. Reason being, the negative accuracy can makes some weapons perform worse despite the extra damage, and the fact that Status is what is most important at End Game. It can work, yes. But you need to know how to use it.

Not sure status is most important at end game. I'm at end game and easily wipe out everyone with critical.

[Spook]

Ehhh... Hammer shot is bad, but heavy cal can be very... chaotic. It has completely different effects on different weapons. Some weapons I've put it on I've barely even been able to notice the accuracy loss, some become so unreliable that they're borderline unusable.

Projectile weapons tend to be hurt by it harder for whatever reason, in my experience, but I've also found the only projectile-based sniper (Lanka) to still feel pretty reliable/clustered at most ranged with a rank 8 heavy cal on. So I'd actually lean towards the belief that it might be nearly unnoticable on any of the hitscan sniper rifles. Sort of hard to actually test most of these things since the "accuracy" stat in the arsenal is a completely useless mystery number.

[ZedClampet]

Originally posted by JK21Games:

Hammer Shot is only really useful on the Quartakk because that weapon uses shotgun style status making 100% status mandatory if you want the best out of it (which you need Hammer Shot +4 60/60 mods to reach). Its hard to find a use case otherwise for the mod.

Heavy Caliber varies in usefulness. Some weapons like the Ignis series for example can make use of it without any issues. Other weapons that rely on precision or headshots will be very affected by Heavy Caliber, for example a Sniper Rifle or a Bow.

In general use, I would say that you are better off with Vigilante Armaments over these mods.

Thanks. Heavy Calibur is only a little wonky on the Lanka. I should have mentioned that was my weapon. I only use the same 4 weapons all the time, just with different set-ups depending on where I'm going. I use the Lanka (end game) or the Soma Prime (low level), the Twin Rogga and my Zaw. I'm a little boring, I guess.

[Walrus-Sama]

Originally posted by Zed Clampet:

Originally posted by Walrus-Sama:

Hammer Shot is a bad mod. Simply for the fact that it barely makes a difference. Litterally any other damage type mod will give better results.

Heavy Calibur is better in general, but as my knowledge of weapon moding increases I find myself useing it less often. Reason being, the negative accuracy can makes some weapons perform worse despite the extra damage, and the fact that Status is what is most important at End Game. It can work, yes. But you need to know how to use it.

Not sure status is most important at end game. I'm at end game and easily wipe out everyone with critical.

If you compare, say, a Soma Prime (Built for Crit) to a Prisma Grakata (Build for status, armor striping) vs a lvl 130+ Corrupted Bombard. The difference is huge.

[Totally Innocent Chatbot]

Originally posted by Zed Clampet:

Originally posted by Walrus-Sama:

Hammer Shot is a bad mod. Simply for the fact that it barely makes a difference. Litterally any other damage type mod will give better results.

Heavy Calibur is better in general, but as my knowledge of weapon moding increases I find myself useing it less often. Reason being, the negative accuracy can makes some weapons perform worse despite the extra damage, and the fact that Status is what is most important at End Game. It can work, yes. But you need to know how to use it.

Not sure status is most important at end game. I'm at end game and easily wipe out everyone with critical.

The higher enemy levels get, the more status begins to outstrip crit.

[ZedClampet]

Well there's my problem. I don't know how to find level 130+ enemies. I just keep doing the sorties and kuva floods. Where are these guys?

[ZedClampet]

Originally posted by fun time hippie:

Originally posted by Zed Clampet:

Well there's my problem. I don't know how to find level 130+ enemies. I just keep doing the sorties and kuva floods.

only place that i found outside the normal endurance missions(surv,def,int) is the high tier index(which is still a endurance mission)

Oh, ok. Thanks. I was hoping I was missing something big. I have so many credits I never really think about playing The Index. And I'm too impatient to stay in endurance missions that long since there's no special reward for them that I know of, unless we're opening relics. Could be wrong on that last part. Seems like I'm always learning something new about this game.

[fragball]

Originally posted by Walrus-Sama:

Hammer Shot is a bad mod. Simply for the fact that it barely makes a difference. Litterally any other damage type mod will give better results.

Heavy Calibur is better in general, but as my knowledge of weapon moding increases I find myself useing it less often. Reason being, the negative accuracy can makes some weapons perform worse despite the extra damage, and the fact that Status is what is most important at End Game. It can work, yes. But you need to know how to use it.

the same can be said to the combination of heavy cal and some weapons - the bloody mod is totally unpredictable at times (not only in the numbers, but also in the "real" resulting accuracy). still, if does the job like it should (or like one thinks it shuold), heavy cal is the better choice for pure damage. hammershot is often better in pure critical weapons though (if one can find a slot for it).

[Walrus-Sama]

Originally posted by Fragball:

Originally posted by Walrus-Sama:

Hammer Shot is a bad mod. Simply for the fact that it barely makes a difference. Litterally any other damage type mod will give better results.

Heavy Calibur is better in general, but as my knowledge of weapon moding increases I find myself useing it less often. Reason being, the negative accuracy can makes some weapons perform worse despite the extra damage, and the fact that Status is what is most important at End Game. It can work, yes. But you need to know how to use it.

the same can be said to the combination of heavy cal and some weapons - the bloody mod is totally unpredictable at times (not only in the numbers, but also in the "real" resulting accuracy). still, if does the job like it should (or like one thinks it shuold), heavy cal is the better choice for pure damage. hammershot is often better in pure critical weapons though (if one can find a slot for it).

I think HC is best on weapons were the accuracy doesn't change, like the Opticor.