Red Crits? 200%+?

[ΣПDΣЯ]

When the Crit Chanse is over 200% to lets say 250%, is 250% better than 200%? I'm asking because I've got Blood Rush, Relentless Combination, Weeping Wounds and Maiming Strike on my Atterax, among other mods. is it even worth it to go above 200% crit chanse? Higher Crit Chanse than 200% doesn't increase damage in any way, or does it? :D

[99dSFMu12]

Yeah, it worth it**

[Ext3h]

Of course it does.

200% crit chance only gives you (1 + (crit multiplier - 100%) * 2) damage guaranteed.

With 250% chance, you have a 50:50 chance of either getting (1 + (crit multiplier - 100%) * 2) or (1 + (crit multiplier - 100%) * 3) damage.

You can go up almost indefinetly, if your build allows it. There is no cap to the effects of crit chance.

[Ext3h]

Originally posted by 99dSFMu12:

Red crits double the damage of orange crits. In other words, Orange crits deals the damage you have in crit damage, while reds is x2. (EX: 2.2x in O, 4.4x in R).

Wrong. Red crits don't double the damage.

From yellow to orange crits, the effective critical damage bonus (shown multiplier -1x) is doubled, but not the whole damage.

From orange to the first red level, it's only another +50% in relation to orange.

If you want to make good use of read crits, you must make sure that your crit multiplier is as high as possible. A 2.0x multiplier is exactly TWICE as strong as a 1.5x multiplier, and a 3.0x multiplier is once again TWICE as strong as the 2.0x multiplier.

[99dSFMu12]

Originally posted by Ext3h:

Originally posted by 99dSFMu12:

Red crits double the damage of orange crits. In other words, Orange crits deals the damage you have in crit damage, while reds is x2. (EX: 2.2x in O, 4.4x in R).

Wrong. Red crits don't double the damage.

From yellow to orange crits, the effective critical damage bonus (shown multiplier -1x) is doubled, but not the whole damage.

From orange to the first red level, it's only another +50% in relation to orange.

If you want to make good use of read crits, you must make sure that your crit multiplier is as high as possible. A 2.0x multiplier is exactly TWICE as strong as a 1.5x multiplier, and a 3.0x multiplier is once again TWICE as strong as the 2.0x multiplier.

ah? they don't? Thought so, thanks for fix i guess.

[Zahkriin]

Originally posted by 99dSFMu12:

Red crits double the damage of orange crits. In other words, Orange crits deals the damage you have in crit damage, while reds is x2. (EX: 2.2x in O, 4.4x in R).

nope the formula is: 1 + (CriticalMulitpler - 1 ) * CriticalLevel
so in your example:

• Y : 1.6
  
• O : 2.2
  
• R : 2.8

@ OP: "red" crit scale to infinity.

[robruckus65]

you can never ahve enough crit chance once you start gettign to like 400% crit chance you start to see ridiculously high damage numbers red crits that deal hundreds of thousands... its the main reason why maiming strike is such a powerful mod when combined with blood rush each combo counter adds the maiming strike percentage again...

[Kaslana]

http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Critical_Hit

"For Basic Orange Crits (Level 2 Crits) the critical damage multiplier can be determined from the formula:

Orange Crit Multiplier = 2 × (Crit Multiplier − 1) + 1

More generally, the critical damage multiplier of any hit can be determined from the following formula:

Crit Multiplier = Crit Level × (Crit Multiplier − 1) + 1

For example, a melee weapon with a base 3.0x crit multiplier and Organ Shatter installed would have a multiplier of 5.7x for level 1 (yellow) crits. If that weapon were to have a Critical Chance over 100% it would be capable of achieving level 2 crits and they would have a multiplier of 10.4x, and if that weapon reached a Critical Chance over 200% it would be capable of level 3 crits dealing 15.1x damage."

In short, the more the better.