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Very hard actually since commonsense is a rare mod and its easier to go running to a forum and ♥♥♥♥♥ about the issue.
I love good lines. They always light up the mood a bit.
A good start for someone to name the 4 best frames to combine in Arbitration or what their favorite team would look like.
There are people who actually care about if they are a burden and potentially annoy their going to be teammates and destroy their chances on a limited mission, and there is you.
Which is exactly what a lot of people do, and i just explained why. No need to whine about your favorite gimp frame.
"Oh but i love Limbo and everyone who leaves just hates him for no reason! And im only here for two excavators anyways."
No hate, but many people are in for far more, especially in infested excavs, and aint going to adjust their playstyle to you only, for no benefit. Its especially that bringing a limbo paints "I dont have a clue hope you dont mind we leave early" on your forehead.
He wouldnt be so high in my most used list if thats the case. Plus even in arbitrations there are mission types where he is even a good pick, which you should know have you actually read what i wrote. But its easy to just whine instead. (Disruption e.g.)
"But if you dont want to deal with egomaniacs just make a premade"- its that anti-social attitude that ever since the recent changes indeed makes it near impossible to get a decent team in random. Thats been different just two weeks back.
Matter of fact remains he is the worst to bring into an arbitration infested excav unless you want to troll or give a fu## about your team. Its either that or dont have any clue about this mission. Its an exclusive either or with no other option in between, thus this often results in people leaving when they see one. Thats just common sense. You cant await that everyone in this high end mission type is going to take your hand and carry your pretty bottom through. The less when this specific tasty combination tents to be a once per day chance at most. Even less for those of us who actually got a life.
Even though ever since the last changes thats not only Limbo, the high influx of Inaros is indeed another fast spreading disease these days. However in the context of this explanation, in this special game mode, he at least wouldnt be a negative, just a dead weight. So carrying an Inaros and explaining him how its done usually is more of an option than a Limbo.
Take a break from gaming and get some sun, it will do you good!
What has a Limbo ever done to you to be so toxic?
I came here to get some tips about good team-combination for arbi's.
Going in as random can mean any number of digs, you cant possible know before! If you wanna do a certain amount of digs get a group and stop complaining here or harass randoms ingame!
If you still wanna post something constructive other than your rant about Limbo you are welcome to post your preferred team combination.
Thank you for your understanding
Yea. Whos the toxic kiddo again?
Going all like "but you just hate limbo, he is the best" while proven different is just silly. And when you then make fun of people who actually know the game better than you, like this frost you mentioned- thats just cheap. Id take him over any limbo in an excav and gladly explain.
So take your own advice and chill. And if you want suggestions, #1 still stands: never ever bring a limbo into excav. But if you love that frame, take a look at disruption and defection.
For others and especially shorter /frame based runs: Nova generally excells in the level range of 100+, as does Khora still. Khoras ensnare is also especially useful against demo units in disruption.
Hildryn does not only strip every little bit of shields and armor, she keeps your team in vazarin level invulnerability mode. With her you can literally bring EVERY frame. Even low MR's with...iunno, Mag? Mag would actually be god mode combined with hilly.
And if you are in for a shorter run Wisp is always a boon, especially with 300% bonus that as a buffer easily transfers to the whole team here. 300% fire rate are well within range then (> 350 power).
Or a Nidus. Just provide neat CC, be invulnerable, occasionally heal folks and link to whoever can use it most. Wisp is a good pick thereby.
All of them are so universal that they are always a safe bet for a random team as well.
Hildryn with a Larkspur is maybe the surprise star in our current tests.
Originally brought in for fun. Because what do you do when you are already surrounded by buzzing balls of antimatter, a solid ring of blue energy orbs, thousands of projectiles, explosions, explosions everywhere and whips clashing like a metronom?
"War is the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hell, but the sound is nice, and i am the DJ!" Well over used but fitting quote of our Hildryn before calling the arc gun.
A larkspur simply blows every drone there is. It just needs to latch onto a single enemy of a drone shielded group and boom- bye bye drone. Cover, drone hiding behind a corner? No matter. Besides properly modded that heavy weapon can easily melt groups well beyond sortie level. And hildryn can keep it while she may occasionally activate aegis storm to milk enemies for more energy even low efficiency nukers can possibly waste. In most modes there should usually be enough heavy weapon ammo to keep 2-3 people on heavy weapons running all the time btw, even all 4 against infested.
The only thing she is not really suited for is disruption, because of the potential for a toxic weapons modifier, which kinda forces the Hildryn player into operator mode. If they can even get there in time. As much as she can tank otherwise, as fast will she fall, especially if it switches while actually being under fire. Which...Hilly usually is, like all the time. Additionally she isnt exactly the fastest usually nor does she bring any demo unit stopping CC other than magus lockdown mines.
Fix your attitude if you want to be taken serious first!
and fast
Your personal drama to win an argument by being condescending just made me skip everything you wrote.
Also as far as premades go why don't you go for it? You're getting angry in the game, people don't want to play with Limbo so people are ditching games you're in, and you came here to complain about; am I right so far? Premades are a 2 way street, people don't have to do premades because they don't want to play with a frame that only complicates things.
And premades are the one way to go. Which is a sad thing, the more if you take into account that just before the update it wasnt. Going "pub" just meant that in most situations you may run into people who aint as experienced yet. But they usually showed some effort, like once again that mentioned Frost.
And thats something where most "regular arbitrationeers" are more on the side of "Kay, lets show them the ropes. At worst we have some fun, at best a new friendlist entry".
I got quite a few that way when my usual band of ragtags wasnt available.
To get back on topic again, maybe a few general tips:
-Bring Magus Lockdown. Its not only part of the "old meta", its a useful tool here all around. Dashing through a group will spam tether mines everywhere and lock them down, even with a drone. Useful in all modes and no matter what frame you brought, they do stop Demo Units as well, for a short moment. Yes that means using operator mode, which should be a no brainer in this kind of mission. If you made it all the way here this should be well within reach. You can even equip two at a time btw. More tethers and more damage.
-Bring Drone Disposer Weapons.
The Catchmoon is a favorite here for it can one shot drones well into the lvl 100+ range no matter how deep within an army they hide.
Acceltra has proven to be especially effective as well, Akarius, Pox and Staticor in a similar way and Ignis and Arca Plasmor to some degree, though the later quickly fall short with increasing level and come with limited range from the start. The Akarius also needs some time to get used to, its tracer rounds tent to target the first enemy of a group and miss the drone unless you know where to aim to get right through to it.
Larkspur- already wrote how and why (my favo allrounder is modded for gas radiation electricity thereby)
The Corvas works like a high range alternative to the catchmoon, especially useful for more open maps with little movement, so most defense e.g..
Some people like the Lenz too but...uhm...You know, Arbitrations and self damaging weapons usually dont go too well. Its REALLY good for a Wu-kings celestial twin though. That self damage is also the downside of especially the Acceltra here. Use with caution.
-Mark Vitus Essence drops.
Vitus essence now is no longer only a stage reward, it drops from drones to make sure people are actually actively disposing of them (in the old meta you didnt actually need to).
If you pick one up (its a rare, shows up on the left), look down, place a waypoint. While they are supposed to be auto marked like the Kuva drops in Kuva disruption...that doesnt really work in the majority of cases. Just place a WP. You dont need to mark the exact spot. A "Vitus around WP2" is more than enough and very helpful. You would probably like your team mates to do the same for you after all.
As for team setups, they differ from mode to mode and even faction. Those frames i mentioned above tent to be good alrounders for short to medium duration runs, so what you usually go for in pub. With "short" still being 30 minutes survival or 30 waves of defense etc, because - its at most a once per hour opportunity. Given the high chance for "less favorite" combinations of faction and mode its effectively even less.
Many people luckily wont like to be that a##hole blowing that chance for three other people.
If you aint in for that, better dont start at all. There are more than enough shorter missions available.