primed sure footed

[agentkido]

dont be dumb like me, grab primed sure footed since self damage isnt a thing anymore but stagger unfortunately is -_-, they need to remove primed mods from the daily tribute system or at least make them tradable again, waiting 200 days just for a prime mod kinda makes me not want to play anymore...

[Henry of Skalitz]

引用自 Pakaku：

引用自 Smelly Fish in a Hazmat Suit：

Y'all talk about learning to not be CC'ed and yet today on a mission I was greeted with a swarm of enemies that constantly knocked you down. MOAs, gunners, you name it. It was a fissure, a defense too. Every single one of us got knocked away from the defense point including my specters. This gave the enemy enough time to send their nullfier and delete my 220 health per secondand 154% speed reservoirs. I'm not even going to mention the unhealthy amount of both MOAs and nullifiers when you go toroid farming...

Pretty sure you can just jump or roll to avoid ground-based knockdown attacks like that, or stay out of their impact range. And if I get thrown up in the air by those Fortuna enemies, all I have to do is slide mid-air and I can avoid that hard fall stun.

I could jump or roll, but before I can roll again there'll most likely be another shockwave coming in.

On fortuna the hard fall stun is not the problem. The constant being thrown in air is. It's annoying and it breaks your flow of the game and PFS helps with that.

引用自 Yuki：

引用自 Smelly Fish in a Hazmat Suit：

I'm not even going to mention the unhealthy amount of them when you go toroid farming...

I do that with my Nekros.
Not exactly the most tanky, nor fast, nor knock down resistant frame.
No explosives or WomD weaponry/skills, for farming i got my Kohm of course!
No face planting neither.
Unless you farm toroids at profit taker. But even there i wonder what the hell some people do. And yes, some not many. Fill up randoms usually.

I hate to break it to you but- if something is even remotely able to knock you off the defense point (unless its a Kuva Lich)- something went terribly wrong way before.
Even more so in a fissure mission. Unless you gonna tell me that happened in wave 60+. They dont really get interresting before that.
Its "Star Chart Material", even level 0 frames with empty slots can handle that. And 220 hps, even though corrputed, so 110, doesnt sound like empty (though not max neither, but i usually see way way worse. Actually, id call a 110 a very decent Wisp! Thumps up on that bit.)

Btw, ever considered using your 3? The melee's in your group will love you for it! And enemies hate it. Seriously, use it. Nothing can come even remotely close to you in a fissure just because of your very own damage already, less with that ability strength.

I also used nekros. Went to help my friend to farm vega toroids. The enemies went up to lvl ~90 at the spaceport, while at the enrichment labs they stayed at 20 for the whole time. The enemies at the temple also stayed at their level. It's the spaceport that was acting weirdly and that wasn't the first time it happened to me. It's true chaos there.
The defense mission was a neo fissure. We stayed up till wave 25 because the waves started taking up 2 minutes each and we had no speed nova. Around wave 20 was when the enemy spawn speed ramped up quickly. I will admit everyone in the squad got lazy as we placed specters to do the dirty work for us with the help of reservoirs, so everyone was basically standing in the middle. This method has worked very good on arbitration until like 1.5h in so we decided to try it on a fissure mission.
As for maximizing wisp's potential I'd need to make an umbral wisp, but I don't feel like that additional 20% of ability strength is gonna do much. It's already like 300%, then comes growing power and energy conversion

[Yuki]

引用自 Smelly Fish in a Hazmat Suit：

It's already like 300%, then comes growing power and energy conversion

And Pax Bolt with the new Tombfinger Primary. Quickshot easily triggers Bolt, charged shot is lightning fast with haste. And a WomD in its own right already, boosted many times fold with Wisp's 3. It also helps with energy.

But yes, do wonder that someone kicked you off when all you did was standing there with some usually rather useless specters. They have their uses, doing your job however is not part of that. (The shield specter is particularily useful if paired with Hildryn e.g.)
Even in a Neo at W25. I think you know what went wrong :P
And even without a Speed Nova it shouldnt take 2 minutes per wave. Wisp alone can be faster, especially in that level range.

[WZ]

What a load of utter rubbish. This is Warframe, not Remnant, nor any sort of cover shooter. If you're going to reach for an excuse to pretend how superior you are, try something vaguely relevant / believable. Just avoid CC. In Warframe. Sure. I'll just avoid damage, and just avoid bad RNG drops as well. Thanks.

[Pakaku]

引用自 WZ：

What a load of utter rubbish. This is Warframe, not Remnant, nor any sort of cover shooter. If you're going to reach for an excuse to pretend how superior you are, try something vaguely relevant / believable. Just avoid CC. In Warframe. Sure. I'll just avoid damage, and just avoid bad RNG drops as well. Thanks.

If you tried it yourself, you might surprise yourself at how easy it actually is.

[Yuki]

引用自 WZ：

If you're going to reach for an excuse to pretend how superior you are, try something vaguely relevant / believable. Just avoid CC. In Warframe.

Exactly. Just do.
You know this isnt a turret simulator. Press w and be amazed!
Okay, stop it. Stop running into a wall. Use your mouse! Jeez...

引用自 Senor Avocado：

Ok Mr high and mighty, let us mortals enjoy PSF

Need some afk builds to leech of other people even better?
Strange how many immortals there are these days. Medicine surely must have made some giant leaps.

[JebKerman]

引用自 Yuki：

Need some afk builds...

What, Like Saryn? Octavia? pair em with maybe a Nova and just sit on your bum and watch as the room practically clears itself?

[Yuki]

引用自 JebKerman：

引用自 Yuki：

Need some afk builds...

What, Like Saryn? Octavia? pair em with maybe a Nova and just sit on your bum and watch as the room practically clears itself?

Thats not afk. Thats just lazy, though effective :D
Also add Mag, Khora and Vauban to that list.

引用自 Senor Avocado：

Me not wanting to be CCed automatically makes me a afk leeher? Great logic you have there. Dunno how a mod that affects me and me alone has any influence on other people.

You could as well call riding a bike without carrying wheels impossible and go all sarcastic on everyone who dares to suggest otherwise, even while hundreds of millions, maybe billions? Prove every day it is indeed possible, easy even and how bikes are meant to be driven. Same here.
A combination that essentially marks you as one of those joining random teams to leech. Because thats the most what people who have to rely on something as "noobish" as PSF combined with a total unwillingness or inability to learn to play can do.

The mod might have helped some very very new players, however its not available to them for a reason and surely as pointed out over and over again not a must have as the OP seems to suggest.

[Alio]

Handspring is actually more effective than Primed Sure Footed. Don't be a dum dum, use Handspring.

[Henry of Skalitz]

引用自 Alio：

Handspring is actually more effective than Primed Sure Footed. Don't be a dum dum, use Handspring.

How is faster recovery speed more effective than completely removing it?

[Nibbie]

引用自 WZ：

What a load of utter rubbish. This is Warframe, not Remnant, nor any sort of cover shooter. If you're going to reach for an excuse to pretend how superior you are, try something vaguely relevant / believable. Just avoid CC. In Warframe. Sure. I'll just avoid damage, and just avoid bad RNG drops as well. Thanks.

Jumping around to stay off the ground and relying more on aim gliding for shooting will solve a lot of your very ground-based CC problems, and moving rapidly such as by bullet jumping around will reduce enemy accuracy, thus avoiding damage. So yes, both of those factors you have fairly direct control over.

[Alio]

引用自 Smelly Fish in a Hazmat Suit：

引用自 Alio：

Handspring is actually more effective than Primed Sure Footed. Don't be a dum dum, use Handspring.

How is faster recovery speed more effective than completely removing it?

Primed Sure Footed has a blocking animation that takes longer to recover from than Handspring takes to get back on your feet. Thus, making Primed Sure Footed pointless for everyday play.

[JebKerman]

引用自 Alio：

引用自 Smelly Fish in a Hazmat Suit：

How is faster recovery speed more effective than completely removing it?

Primed Sure Footed has a blocking animation that takes longer to recover from than Handspring takes to get back on your feet. Thus, making Primed Sure Footed pointless for everyday play.

I shall refer you to my own discovery:

引用自 JebKerman：

Doesn't Sure Footed kind of stagger you anyway? There's a blocking animation iirc.

EDIT: Huh, apparently not anymore according to the wiki, as of about 3 months ago, (27.2).
Guess it finally has a real edge over Handspring.

[agentkido]

引用自 Nibbie：

引用自 WZ：

What a load of utter rubbish. This is Warframe, not Remnant, nor any sort of cover shooter. If you're going to reach for an excuse to pretend how superior you are, try something vaguely relevant / believable. Just avoid CC. In Warframe. Sure. I'll just avoid damage, and just avoid bad RNG drops as well. Thanks.

Jumping around to stay off the ground and relying more on aim gliding for shooting will solve a lot of your very ground-based CC problems, and moving rapidly such as by bullet jumping around will reduce enemy accuracy, thus avoiding damage. So yes, both of those factors you have fairly direct control over.

Jumping around while using only a melee weapon kinda defeats the whole point of using a melee weapon, you get what I'm saying?

引用自 The Doom Poster：

引用自 agentkido：

waiting 200 days just for a prime mod kinda makes me not want to play anymore...

bye

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[Spartykins]

it seems useful during PT if you have the space in your exilus slot, aside from the lua mods there's not much to put in there

[FUS]

引用自 The Doom Poster：

引用自 agentkido：

Jumping around while using only a melee weapon kinda defeats the whole point of using a melee weapon, you get what I'm saying?


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