primed sure footed

[agentkido]

dont be dumb like me, grab primed sure footed since self damage isnt a thing anymore but stagger unfortunately is -_-, they need to remove primed mods from the daily tribute system or at least make them tradable again, waiting 200 days just for a prime mod kinda makes me not want to play anymore...

[Yuki]

Originally posted by Taddy Mason:

I wouldn’t be against them being as rare as those stupid umbra formas. They should be something you only consider putting on your favorite or very best stuff-like I assume most people do already with their umbra forma or eidolon lenses.

The problem remains. While spending a single Umbra Forma for this frame you focus on is usually enough, different setups usually require more than one different polarity. And with how "fast" content is released it will be nearly two years until you have your second. For couple o dozens of frames and hundreds of weapons.

Being able to swap polarity by outfit slot might also be something. Re-forma a D into a -, but it only applies to that save slot with the original being unchanged. And a new one can then be made by copying one of the two distinct setups. Maybe a feature for the new Umbra Frames? Im still happily lookin forward to Mag. Since..uhm, ya, quite some "while".

[Pakaku]

Kind of surprised that some people can't just learn how to stay out of the blast radius. I guess it's your funeral if you want to waste a mod slot on that.

[Yuki]

Originally posted by Senor Avocado:

grineer shield dudes

- Any weapon with at least a tiny bit of punch through. Or explosives.

Originally posted by Senor Avocado:

say ♥♥♥ off to all of that

Honestly i actually just realized they do that now. Because i was alt tabbed to check prices while spawning a new lich and one of them actually survived, came close and played rugby with my frame. Usually they are like...damage numbers left and right? Thats what they are for right? UI decoration.

Originally posted by Senor Avocado:

scorpions

-Dont just walk through the level. Dont stand still. Its space ninjas, not space statues, even though a lot of people think of it that way. Hence my suggestion to leave Rhino behind. Or if you must stand still- dont let them come closer than 8m. They aint exactly tanky. Nothing should be within 15m while you stand still. Not to start standing still, but because of.

Originally posted by Senor Avocado:

say ♥♥♥ off to all of that

Originally posted by Senor Avocado:

hvy gunners

-You dont need to cuddle them. Kill them. They take ages to slam the ground and only do so if you are in melee range. And even then their range is fairly limited.
And no matter your frame or weapon. "You are in melee range" usually has to equal instant certain death to everything not considered a boss.

Originally posted by Senor Avocado:

say ♥♥♥ off to all of that

Actually to most bosses too.

Originally posted by Senor Avocado:

kuva guardians

They should be "approached" with a void dash anyways to make them vulnerable. They dont do anything if you attack them (properly). And even if not, hvy gunner rules apply minus they can actually survive some.

Originally posted by Senor Avocado:

say ♥♥♥ off to all of that

Originally posted by Senor Avocado:

eximus units (...) ancient (...)

Okay. I get it, these might be a bit mean. However most ancients (not just disruptors, healers are even worse!) are rather squishy and eximus are best approached with your butt first right into their face to evade the shockwave in a jump up.
But i admit its the main cause for me faceplanting into the ground. The jump strategy is fun! (bullet jump crouch)
Which they also shouldnt survive, but ya, that part might be tricky depending on frame.

[No_Quarter]

Originally posted by Yuki:

Originally posted by Senor Avocado:

grineer shield dudes

- Any weapon with at least a tiny bit of punch through. Or explosives.

Unless you are trying to melee them because when you stun them their shields go 360 around them and then have no open hitboxes.

It's really frustrating to OBVIOUSLY go behind their backs while they are leaning from one leg to another being stunned and just hearing the "DING DING DING" as you swing your melee on their exposed posterior.

Also big ass shield boi, one with Tonkor whatever his name is - his shield has absolute ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ of a hitbox. Shooting exposed parts of that enemy on the front is 0 damage consistently.

Ofc no one cares as explosive meta YAAAAAAY but it's a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ job done.

[Yuki]

Originally posted by No_Quarter:

Ofc no one cares as explosive meta YAAAAAAY but it's a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ job done.

There are more explosives than the Bramma, Ogris or Tonkor.
My personal favorites and what im kind of refering to here are more Acceltra or Scourge.

Let alone Tombfinger Primary, Stahlta, Akarius, Shedu (...)

[agentkido]

Originally posted by Alzeid Baylock:

Originally posted by Athame:

sometimes i'm amazed at how absolutely stupid some posts are on this forum. this one is definitely up there

This one's even worse; the former is just a challenge to use other weapons, made in responce to someone having issues with a powerful weapon's drawback (which is, in all honesty, their own fault for firing it so close and/or keeping their feet on the ground when they do it to boot)

I've ran Mirage Bramma before. It's not hard to not stagger yourself. Granted, I had experience running mag/multishot Angrstum on Mirage and learned very quickly how to gauge range to not *kill* myself, back before this self stagger cop-out. It's really not that hard.

So if u read my comments before you would understand I'm NOT using a bramma it's using hikou with concealed explosives, throwing 36 of them in hydrons the room is so small ur gonna knock urself over more often then not, in the plains or even void there's no problem because of how big the rooms are but in grinder and corpus ships the rooms are as small as hydron is.

Originally posted by Pakaku:

Kind of surprised that some people can't just learn how to stay out of the blast radius. I guess it's your funeral if you want to waste a mod slot on that.

Staying out of my own blast radius that is 2x bigger than the explosion in small maps with tight turns. Oh yeah it's oh so easy😂

[No_Quarter]

Originally posted by Yuki:

Originally posted by No_Quarter:

Ofc no one cares as explosive meta YAAAAAAY but it's a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ job done.

There are more explosives than the Bramma, Ogris or Tonkor.
My personal favorites and what im kind of refering to here are more Acceltra or Scourge.

Let alone Tombfinger Primary, Stahlta, Akarius, Shedu (...)

I said explosives too, name "explosive meta" was used to describe obvious and huge advantage if your weapon goes boom with no drawbacks to it. I meant all of them cause obviously that's all what we see these days and for an obvious reasons.

Point of my post was about ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up hitboxes on shields and during animations, only going on a tangent briefly to tell why is it not a problem because no one uses things that do not go kaboom which means problem is fixed.

[WZ]

Primed Sure Footed a waste of a slot, you what?
I've read some utter nonsense on the internetz, but this is up there.
Sure, if you like getting CCd / interrupted every 5 seconds, don't put it.
I have it on every single build / frame & won't be removing it basically ever.

It's a no-brainer, must-have mod that goes in every one my builds / frames.
Yeah yeah sure Atlas/Rhino/Titania/Mesa, ok, fine. There are exceptions.
But that's only because they can be CC immune without it.

For every single frame that doesn't have that, it's CC immunity for one measly slot.
CC immunity. For one measly slot. That's like the deal of the century.
This has nothing to do with self-stagger & everything to do with enemy CC.
PSF was god tier long before self-stagger was a thing.

[Pakaku]

Originally posted by Senor Avocado:

Originally posted by WZ:

Primed Sure Footed a waste of a slot, you what?
I've read some utter nonsense on the internetz, but this is up there.
Sure, if you like getting CCd / interrupted every 5 seconds, don't put it.
I have it on every single build / frame & won't be removing it basically ever.

It's a no-brainer, must-have mod that goes in every one my builds / frames.
Yeah yeah sure Atlas/Rhino/Titania/Mesa, ok, fine. There are exceptions.
But that's only because they can be CC immune without it.

For every single frame that doesn't have that, it's CC immunity for one measly slot.
CC immunity. For one measly slot. That's like the deal of the century.
This has nothing to do with self-stagger & everything to do with enemy CC.
PSF was god tier long before self-stagger was a thing.

Yep, PSF is a great mod to everyone's eyes. the above long winded statement is just the 'git gud' type. Just because they like to be CCed doesn't mean everyone has to like it.

Most of us learned how to avoid being CCed with some practice and game awareness. Nobody likes to be knocked down, but it's almost always super easy to evade it in the first place with some rolling or bullet-jumping. Even some abilities prevent you from being knocked down if you're casting them during the point of impact.

[Yuki]

Originally posted by No_Quarter:

Point of my post was about ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up hitboxes on shields and during animations

Bugs exist. Tell Nova players about it.
She has a skin that because of such -is deadly- to herself -.-
Though again i never had any troubles with shield guys until i went afk. Try more slide attacks mayhaps?

Originally posted by Senor Avocado:

Yep, PSF is a great mod to everyone's eyes. the above long winded statement is just the 'git gud' type. Just because they like to be CCed doesn't mean everyone has to like it.

Point is if you know how to play warframe you rarely if ever "get CCed". It takes something akin to a sudden instant Lich appearance with immediate Coursed Ground to do so.
Just because you have problems with it doesnt mean everyone does.

Originally posted by Pakaku:

Most of us learned how to avoid being CCed with some practice and game awareness.

^This.

[Security Cam #7]

Y'all talk about learning to not be CC'ed and yet today on a mission I was greeted with a swarm of enemies that constantly knocked you down. MOAs, gunners, you name it. It was a fissure, a defense too. Every single one of us got knocked away from the defense point including my specters. This gave the enemy enough time to send their nullfier and delete my 220 health per secondand 154% speed reservoirs. I'm not even going to mention the unhealthy amount of both MOAs and nullifiers when you go toroid farming...
And no, I'm not complaining that it's too hard. I'm just saying there are situations where learning to not be CC'ed by two, maybe three enemies around you will be useless when there is a ♥♥♥♥ ton of them.

[Pakaku]

Originally posted by Smelly Fish in a Hazmat Suit:

Y'all talk about learning to not be CC'ed and yet today on a mission I was greeted with a swarm of enemies that constantly knocked you down. MOAs, gunners, you name it. It was a fissure, a defense too. Every single one of us got knocked away from the defense point including my specters. This gave the enemy enough time to send their nullfier and delete my 220 health per secondand 154% speed reservoirs. I'm not even going to mention the unhealthy amount of both MOAs and nullifiers when you go toroid farming...

Pretty sure you can just jump or roll to avoid ground-based knockdown attacks like that, or stay out of their impact range. And if I get thrown up in the air by those Fortuna enemies, all I have to do is slide mid-air and I can avoid that hard fall stun.

[Yuki]

Originally posted by Smelly Fish in a Hazmat Suit:

I'm not even going to mention the unhealthy amount of them when you go toroid farming...

I do that with my Nekros.
Not exactly the most tanky, nor fast, nor knock down resistant frame.
No explosives or WomD weaponry/skills, for farming i got my Kohm of course!
No face planting neither.
Unless you farm toroids at profit taker. But even there i wonder what the hell some people do. And yes, some not many. Fill up randoms usually.

I hate to break it to you but- if something is even remotely able to knock you off the defense point (unless its a Kuva Lich)- something went terribly wrong way before.
Even more so in a fissure mission. Unless you gonna tell me that happened in wave 60+. They dont really get interresting before that.
Its "Star Chart Material", even level 0 frames with empty slots can handle that. And 220 hps, even though corrputed, so 110, doesnt sound like empty (though not max neither, but i usually see way way worse. Actually, id call a 110 a very decent Wisp! Thumps up on that bit.)

Btw, ever considered using your 3? The melee's in your group will love you for it! And enemies hate it. Seriously, use it. Nothing can come even remotely close to you in a fissure just because of your very own damage already, less with that ability strength.

[Skine]

Originally posted by Yuki:

There is also cautious shot.
But the real solution to your apparent problem, well you must have heard that quite often already but its true: Get good. Learn to play.
That mod is just a waste of a slot.

Say goodbye to your Bramma and Rhino. I dare you!

Primed sure footed is the best warframe exilus slot

[Yuki]

Originally posted by Skine:

Primed sure footed is the best warframe exilus slot

Cant be. That's already Peculiar Bloom.

Unless for a Nova, there its Escape Velocity of course.