which frame has the best grouping ability

[SuperbDave]

Hi all, I have a good aoe and dot weapon, I need a frame that group enemy together, first come to mine I have Mag, Vauban or Nidus.

Which frame has the best grouping ability? any other frame I missed?

thx

[r-kid]

If you are grouping for aoe weapon then Vauban.

Nidus wants to hit them with his 1 to gain stacks, Khora also wants to hit her grouped with her 1, Mag works better with punch through projectile weapons than aoe.

[Kou]

I'd say Vauban, but there is a big problem called walls.

[76561199026222494]

can't think of any other frames than you listed. On another note, you can use Magus Anomaly to pull enemies within a 30m radius, with that you're not limited to specific frames.

[fmalfeas]

Depending on your mods and teamwork, you can pull a dirty trick.

A range/Duration nyx can park in the open with Assimilate running. Everyone else can crowd around. Nyx will suck up all incoming damage as they lay waste to everything around with their AoE.

[DLOZanma]

Grendel : )

[Mooman]

Para moa whiplash mine can pull a group together, but it's random so not reliable for a specific play style.

[Flamboyant]

Khora is a bit painful, not only she can be time consuming to farm, but u gotta forma her, her cat, get a stat-stick or xoris ( maybe even a good riven for it ), its a huge investment, but with maxed out builds u can easily solo ESO while grouping enemies and then slashing them with ur whip. But shes mediocre at survival

Vauban - one of the best but not my cup of tea honestly

Nidus: if ur team doesnt want u to get stacks u prolly wont get em

Mag on the other hand has it all, tons of damage with her bubble, complete area denial at chokepoints ( if u put some range), since shes a queen of shields u can get some nice survivability too ( u really have to rely on shields thou ), and u can wipe out maps with some range and power strength on low lvl missions as a bonus

[TheSuit]

Vaub gets a 360 pull
While Mag gets a long range Single direction pull.
Nidus pull is slightly bigger than Vaubans but it only pulls once on activation.

[Yuki]

Originally posted by The | Suit:

While Mag gets a long range Single direction pull.

Well, "pull" is a single direction pull, but dont forget magnetize. Especially with Magentized Discharge. Thats 360 at target enemy.

If its just about those mentioned Mag can more than compete with Nidus in range plus she doesnt care if the rest of the team fires all nilly willy into the crowd. Of those mentioned Vauban is king of range though.

Of those missed: A speed nova. She got the largest range of all. However its quite tricky to pull off that stunt and the most expensive mentioned so far. On the pro side she also immediately disposes of all enemies as well.

[Rutabaga]

As you mentioned, Mag, Nidus, and Vauban are all really good for dragging a crowd together with their abilities. The following frames can also drag enemies together, many of which providing their own forms of bonuses.

Hydroid, using Undertow with a good amount of range is pretty good at clustering enemies together. Furthermore, allies can shoot your puddle, distributing the damage to enemies caught inside of it.

Ivara, whilst this is a bit more indirect, an invisible Ivara can lead a lot of enemies into one spot with Noise Arrows. Though, when it comes to being able to drag enemies together, this one is definitely the least effective, only being useful in Solo.

Nyx, with the Singularity augment is somewhat effective at dragging enemies into one spot, however it's a bit of a bad choice, as you can't do much whilst this ability is active (it also doesn't scale with Range). This makes it more of a team ability.

Octavia, her Resonator ability will cause enemies to chase and shoot at the ball, clumping them together in the process (being rather strong when combined with Mallet).

Khora, both Strangledome and Ensnare work rather well for pulling enemies, but in different ways. Ensnare is better for clustering with a high ability Range than Strangledome.

Zephyr, her Tornados (and its Augment) will pick up any nearby enemies and cause them to helplessly dangle within them. Furthermore, shooting the Tornados directly will cause any grabbed enemies to take your weapon's full damage and then some. Though this is a bit unreliable currently.

Baruuk, his Serene Storm has the capability to drag enemies towards you, however this isn't worth noting too much as a CC ability, because enemies will most certainly die in the process.

Grendel, his Feast ability is very good for clustering together a large group of enemies... in your belly. You can then spit them all out by holding the ability button.

Gauss, using his Thermal Sunder, you can cause an implosion when it is cast in the right order, being: Heat >then> Cold.


To answer the question, I'd say the best for outright dragging enemies to one spot ability would be a tie between Grendel, Nidus, and Vauban. With Vauban getting the award for being the best "all-rounder", as he has 3 different ways to force enemies into one spot.

[fmalfeas]

Originally posted by Shade/Abhor:

Nyx, with the Singularity augment is somewhat effective at dragging enemies into one spot, however it's a bit of a bad choice, as you can't do much whilst this ability is active (it also doesn't scale with Range). This makes it more of a team ability.

One thing people tend to forget about the augmented singularity Assimilation, is that Nyx can move and fight. The movement may seem slow and weak, but if you use forward+melee or forward+block+melee (depending on weapon and stance) you can actually go FASTER than normal sometimes.

[JebKerman]

Originally posted by fmalfeas:

Originally posted by Shade/Abhor:

Nyx, with the Singularity augment is somewhat effective at dragging enemies into one spot, however it's a bit of a bad choice, as you can't do much whilst this ability is active (it also doesn't scale with Range). This makes it more of a team ability.

One thing people tend to forget about the augmented singularity Assimilation, is that Nyx can move and fight. The movement may seem slow and weak, but if you use forward+melee or forward+block+melee (depending on weapon and stance) you can actually go FASTER than normal sometimes.

But the augment that lets her move while using her 'Absorb' ability, 'Assimilate', is mutually exclusive with the one that causes it to actively pulls in enemies, 'Singularity'. Both cannot be equipped at once. Though a sort of hybrid could be made using Exodia Hunt on a Zaw with a slam-happy combo.

[Mio Rin]

Titania and Mirage have abilities that lure enemies toward a point.
There's also a melee mod that taunts enemies when you block.

[Sceles]

Originally posted by SuperbDave:

Hi all, I have a good aoe and dot weapon, I need a frame that group enemy together, first come to mine I have Mag, Vauban or Nidus.

Which frame has the best grouping ability? any other frame I missed?

thx

For this purpose I would not even consider any other frame than Vauban and Nidus.

The people in the thread are listing every single frame with any sort of grouping capability, no matter how bad or minor the effect is. I'm pretty sure this is not what the thread was about.

[agentkido]

Originally posted by Sceles:

Originally posted by SuperbDave:

Hi all, I have a good aoe and dot weapon, I need a frame that group enemy together, first come to mine I have Mag, Vauban or Nidus.

Which frame has the best grouping ability? any other frame I missed?

thx

For this purpose I would not even consider any other frame than Vauban and Nidus.

The people in the thread are listing every single frame with any sort of grouping capability, no matter how bad or minor the effect is. I'm pretty sure this is not what the thread was about.

Basically this ^