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MikeisaGoob 2020 年 4 月 8 日 下午 2:11
Why is new strange a forced quest to progress
its unbelievable how boring this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ quest is. it took me an hour to just get one scan and I really dont ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ want to do 3 more for some ♥♥♥♥ I dont care about just to progress through the star chart
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Nibbie 2020 年 4 月 8 日 下午 2:33 
If it takes you more than a minute to get the scan (once you figure out where they are, which is pretty easy as Simiris should tell you when you load in if they are there), then that is 100% on you.

As for why it is required, it teaches you how to perform synthesis, which is important for getting some nice stuff, including being the only way to get quest related items you may have sold, and knowing how it works so you can help/not ruin it for other people doing it in a squad. It also makes sure you have a scanner and know how to use it, since that is required for at least one future quest off the top of my head, probably others too.
The Icecream Snowman 2020 年 4 月 8 日 下午 3:12 
"Why is playing the game a requirement to play the game?"
Shielded Raven 2020 年 4 月 8 日 下午 6:38 
引用自 Nibbie
If it takes you more than a minute to get the scan (once you figure out where they are, which is pretty easy as Simiris should tell you when you load in if they are there), then that is 100% on you.

"Why is playing the game a requirement to play the game?"

Might I ask how long ago you both last played the new strange? Perhaps it is time to open up a new account and progress to that quest to play it. This is not a case of "git gud", as the quest line is now buggy as anything. I was bored and wanted to allow my secondary account to progress, and one of the missions I had to do was .... you guessed it. I can easily state the condition it is in now, is not how it was with my main account.

~ Kinetic Siphon Lure's only work once. If you try to throw more, then it is like the Grineer subject has a power fart, launching in the air a foot or two, so you are doing nothing more then wasting lures.

~ when you think you have a lock on a scan point with a syntheses scanner, you then need to try two or three times, as it will not register. But at this point you have to chase the subject around and hope you can sneak up on him, as once again the Kinetic Siphon Lure's will not work past the one.

~ When you finally used the syntheses scanner, the game glitches and you have to do the process all over again, but without the help of the lures.

~ There is a possibility when you toss a lure down, the subject will go super saiyan, releasing a Moa knock down shock wave that can send you half way across the map.

~ Subject will just randomly die, soon as you approach

~ Or my favorite: Complete the last needed scan, system tells you that you completed that part of the mission, you get the extract point, get picked up by the orbiter and then ...... the servers kick you out, and you have to do the final three scans again.

I had a video posted on youtube with all these points, I will have to see if I can find it and re-post it.

引用自 Mike
its unbelievable how boring this ♥♥♥♥ing quest is. it took me an hour to just get one scan and I really dont ♥♥♥♥ing want to do 3 more for some ♥♥♥♥ I dont care about just to progress through the star chart

As I said above, I feel your pain. All I can tell you is that once you get through the three scans, which is a true test of patience, the rest of the quest is rather smooth sailing from there.
Shielded Raven 2020 年 4 月 8 日 下午 7:29 
Addendum: I see what the issue is. Since the creation of Liches, DE has now since broke the new strange mission, as they act like lower level liches.
Rays of Apollo 2020 年 4 月 8 日 下午 7:39 
引用自 Ares StormSong
Addendum: I see what the issue is. Since the creation of Liches, DE has now since broke the new strange mission, as they act like lower level liches.
What the hell sort of mish mash are they creating where a new enemy mecahnic is messing with another enemy mechanic in only one instance.

They truly disappoint me sometimes
最後修改者:Rays of Apollo; 2020 年 4 月 8 日 下午 8:56
MikeisaGoob 2020 年 4 月 8 日 下午 7:54 
I beat the mission and had to take a break for a couple of hours as I developed a headache. I truly dont understand this quest. The scanning part is monotonous and boring and very infuriating, the traps you give stop working after using 3 of them and the quest doesent explain anything about scanning "nodes" instead of the actual creature instead. Also running around looking for hard to see particles is also a pain when constantly fighting off enemies
MikeisaGoob 2020 年 4 月 8 日 下午 7:56 
Now im lucky and I play with a friend who got me into the game and is about 20 mastery with a max rank clan of just me and him so he helps me out plus I got some primes both from twitch drops and because I spent some money on the game. I can absolutley see new players quiting this game after playing this mission
MikeisaGoob 2020 年 4 月 8 日 下午 7:57 
"Why is playing the game a requirement to play the game?"
Playing this mission felt like the exact opposite of playing the game atleast the scanning part, the rest of the mission was fine
Shielded Raven 2020 年 4 月 8 日 下午 8:56 
引用自 Mike
I beat the mission and had to take a break for a couple of hours as I developed a headache. I truly dont understand this quest. The scanning part is monotonous and boring and very infuriating, the traps you give stop working after using 3 of them and the quest doesent explain anything about scanning "nodes" instead of the actual creature instead. Also running around looking for hard to see particles is also a pain when constantly fighting off enemies

I thought it was just me when I played on my second account, thinking it was one of the many bugs I am plagued with. However I used my Main and have a video of everything that happened. The problem is, as a new player you are running into bugs we the older players never had, so some will question it.
Shielded Raven 2020 年 4 月 8 日 下午 10:16 
引用自 Rays of Apollo
What the hell sort of mish mash are they creating where a new enemy mecahnic is messing with another enemy mechanic in only one instance.

They truly disappoint me sometimes

knowing what I was getting into, I used my main account and this is what I ran into: https://youtu.be/Rg2SiuxHklM
Rays of Apollo 2020 年 4 月 8 日 下午 10:42 
Oh lord... I was prepared to just take your word for it.

But, after seeing that... das sum ol' bull $#!+! It seems to me like those abilities are on purpose.
MikeisaGoob 2020 年 4 月 8 日 下午 11:22 
Idk it just felt out of place as other than that I have been having a really fun time with warframe
Shielded Raven 2020 年 4 月 9 日 上午 12:14 
引用自 Rays of Apollo
Oh lord... I was prepared to just take your word for it.

But, after seeing that... das sum ol' bull $#!+! It seems to me like those abilities are on purpose.

it is strange to say the least, and I do not remember it being that way.

引用自 Mike
Idk it just felt out of place as other than that I have been having a really fun time with warframe

It is a fun game, wait till you get to the second dream quest. I am not one that gets too deeply involved with games, but that quest ..... yeah you will love it.
lukaself 2020 年 4 月 9 日 上午 7:57 
引用自 Ares StormSong
knowing what I was getting into, I used my main account and this is what I ran into: https://youtu.be/Rg2SiuxHklM
I have watched your video and no disrespect intended but I couldn't figure for the hell of me what was wrong beside that bug where your weapons got locked (it's a common and frustrating bug, yes, but not specific to synthesis). All I saw was someone frustratingly bad at focusing on the scanning points? The enemies were barely damaging you so why didn't you just hold still and scan the damn thing? I had to resist the very strong urge to shout at you through that video. That last musical part seemed especially in bad faith since it's mostly just you attacking the synthesis target for some reason?

Synthesis targets have a lot of different powers to make it challenging and interesting and they always had since they released! If you thought the moa wave is frustrating, wait until you see the one which clones itself and goes stealth!

So just two pieces of advice:
1-No one with the amount of survivability you have uses syphon traps, not if you value your time. And they end up not working eventually because there are diminishing returns for crowd control on capture targets to prevent trivializing.
2-If you hold the button when you lose aim on the scanning point, you do not lose scanning progress and resume the scan where you left it. I repeat, do not let go on that button. You could literally just swipe left and right during the scan, going over the point and you'd get it eventually in just a few seconds.

I still encounter synthesis target daily and they're seriously trivial. Again, no disrespect intended but it is more constructive to ask help from fellow tennos because most of the game can be trivialized in some way or other. For this reason If someone feels a mechanic is frustrating, it's almost always because they missed something and not because it was made so.
最後修改者:lukaself; 2020 年 4 月 9 日 上午 8:08
Shielded Raven 2020 年 4 月 9 日 上午 8:16 
引用自 lukaself
I have watched your video and no disrespect intended but I couldn't figure for the hell of me what was wrong beside that bug where your weapons got locked (it's a common and frustrating bug, yes, but not specific to synthesis). All I saw was someone frustratingly bad at focusing on the scanning points? The enemies were barely damaging you so why didn't you just hold still and scan the damn thing? I had to resist the very strong urge to shout at you through that video. That last musical part seemed especially in bad faith since it's mostly just you attacking the synthesis target for some reason?

Synthesis targets have a lot of different powers to make it challenging and interesting and they always had since they released! If you thought the moa wave is frustrating, wait until you see the one which clones itself and goes stealth!

So just two pieces of advice:
1-No one with the amount of survivability you have uses syphon traps, not if you value your time. And they end up not working eventually because there are diminishing returns for crowd control on capture targets to prevent trivializing.
2-If you hold the button when you lose aim on the scanning point, you do not lose scanning progress and resume the scan where you left it. I repeat, do not let go on that button. You could literally just swipe left and right during the scan, going over the point and you'd get it eventually in just a few seconds.

I still encounter synthesis target daily and they're seriously trivial.

None taken, it is just I do not recall the scan subjects taken on the power of a Shockwave Moa, or a Infested Shockwave Moa, so that was new to me, though I will have to get off my lazy butt and go watch other older videos (not mine) to make sure of that fact.

I only used my built up frames of my main account to see if the bug would happen, and allow me to take a few hits, if I needed to run around and chase the subject. But looking at it through the eyes of a new player, all they need to do is u unlocked by completing the Junction task from Jupiter to Europa, so I am not sure their mods would allow for much suitability at that point, while a bug like that (as we seen with the OP) can be rather frustrating to them.
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