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NeonDera Mar 22, 2020 @ 6:47am
Baza Prime Dmg
I don't know what i'm missing or if i have a wrong mod or just wrong build or if im doing it wrong, but the damage doesn't feel sufficient enough for the level 65-80 sortie right now (the spy mission)
This is the build https://gyazo.com/1d448b53c9420bfbe862478bc827bb9e
but i don't understand what i need to change like its either taking 2-3 clips on the near 80 enemies or do i just need to aim for the head or what am i missing
Originally posted by Nibbie:
Originally posted by NeonDera:
Originally posted by Sceles:
You have no elemental mods equipped, of course you're not doing damage. Replace Hollow Point and Creeping Bullseye with corrosive mods.
is it essential to any weapon to have an element? considering the low status on each weapon vs the crit rate?

Elemental damage has literally nothing to do with status chance. You can have a weapon with high status and only physical damage, a weapon with low status chance and only elemental damage, neither, or both.

Assuming I understand correctly and it all still works this way, elemental damage mods are good because they stack multiplicatively with damage mods, while adding more damage mods is additive. Let's look at what swapping just your augur pact will do. For ease, your weapon's base damage is 100 total. Your hornet strike is 220%, your augur pact is 90%, they both increase base damage so they are added together for a 310% increase, for 410 damage total. If you replace Augur Pact with say Convulsion, which is 90% electricity, you get your hornet strike for +220% giving you 320 physical damage, then 90% of that is added as elemental damage, being 288 electricity damage, for a total of 608 damage. With one mod swap you get an almost 50% damage increase. Considering this new higher damage is then multiplied again by your multishot and crit, your dps increase is quite a bit.

Replacing your two mediocre crit mods with elemental damage will likely increase your dps even more, especially because you can tailor the damage to what you are facing to take advantage of elemental weaknesses.
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Glaive Mar 22, 2020 @ 6:53am 
try switching to viral damage if you don't want to change your build much. You might also consider building more for crits.
I do recommend aiming for the head in general with the baza. It's got the accuracy to do that pretty well.
NeonDera Mar 22, 2020 @ 6:57am 
okei
karthik.upadya1 Mar 22, 2020 @ 7:20am 
Build for viral. Switch high voltage and malignant force with point strike and hunter munitions.
NeonDera Mar 22, 2020 @ 7:28am 
Originally posted by karthik.upadya1:
Build for viral. Switch high voltage and malignant force with point strike and hunter munitions.
ok and so i tried to use the euphona prime with 100% crit and 6.5x crit multiplier on the last sortie but it only did 59 dmg xD so with that i need a corrosive mix instead?

https://i.gyazo.com/ca787ca9d5fba9f9d76b9f59e578da59.png
NeonDera Mar 22, 2020 @ 7:30am 
and same thing for the euphona same result for destreza prime... but the destreza i was able to kill with it's just the crits even at 12x220 it was hitting under 200 and i do have gladiator might
Sceles Mar 22, 2020 @ 7:33am 
Originally posted by NeonDera:
Originally posted by karthik.upadya1:
Build for viral. Switch high voltage and malignant force with point strike and hunter munitions.
ok and so i tried to use the euphona prime with 100% crit and 6.5x crit multiplier on the last sortie but it only did 59 dmg xD so with that i need a corrosive mix instead?

https://i.gyazo.com/ca787ca9d5fba9f9d76b9f59e578da59.png
You have no elemental mods equipped, of course you're not doing damage. Replace Hollow Point and Creeping Bullseye with corrosive mods.
NeonDera Mar 22, 2020 @ 7:39am 
Originally posted by Sceles:
Originally posted by NeonDera:
ok and so i tried to use the euphona prime with 100% crit and 6.5x crit multiplier on the last sortie but it only did 59 dmg xD so with that i need a corrosive mix instead?

https://i.gyazo.com/ca787ca9d5fba9f9d76b9f59e578da59.png
You have no elemental mods equipped, of course you're not doing damage. Replace Hollow Point and Creeping Bullseye with corrosive mods.
is it essential to any weapon to have an element? considering the low status on each weapon vs the crit rate?
Kou Mar 22, 2020 @ 8:18am 
Baza is just not strong by itself, even with a riven on. Well, maybe gonna try a few more builds after.
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Nibbie Mar 22, 2020 @ 8:20am 
Originally posted by NeonDera:
Originally posted by Sceles:
You have no elemental mods equipped, of course you're not doing damage. Replace Hollow Point and Creeping Bullseye with corrosive mods.
is it essential to any weapon to have an element? considering the low status on each weapon vs the crit rate?

Elemental damage has literally nothing to do with status chance. You can have a weapon with high status and only physical damage, a weapon with low status chance and only elemental damage, neither, or both.

Assuming I understand correctly and it all still works this way, elemental damage mods are good because they stack multiplicatively with damage mods, while adding more damage mods is additive. Let's look at what swapping just your augur pact will do. For ease, your weapon's base damage is 100 total. Your hornet strike is 220%, your augur pact is 90%, they both increase base damage so they are added together for a 310% increase, for 410 damage total. If you replace Augur Pact with say Convulsion, which is 90% electricity, you get your hornet strike for +220% giving you 320 physical damage, then 90% of that is added as elemental damage, being 288 electricity damage, for a total of 608 damage. With one mod swap you get an almost 50% damage increase. Considering this new higher damage is then multiplied again by your multishot and crit, your dps increase is quite a bit.

Replacing your two mediocre crit mods with elemental damage will likely increase your dps even more, especially because you can tailor the damage to what you are facing to take advantage of elemental weaknesses.
No_Quarter (Banned) Mar 22, 2020 @ 9:20am 
Originally posted by Donitsi:
Originally posted by NeonDera:
ok and so i tried to use the euphona prime with 100% crit and 6.5x crit multiplier on the last sortie but it only did 59 dmg xD so with that i need a corrosive mix instead?

https://i.gyazo.com/ca787ca9d5fba9f9d76b9f59e578da59.png

Get rid of Creeping Bullseye and Lethal Torrent. Replace them with Element damage. Weapons won't do well without additional damage from element mods even if they are critical weapons. All weapons need at least 2 element mods to work imo.
Lethal Torrent is much better than Augur Pact.
Forza Piadina Mar 22, 2020 @ 10:18am 
1) Baza prime is just crap, it has practically the same stats of the vanilla version(a bad weapon).
2) there are stupid OP weapons out there, just use a silent mod and you are done.
Last edited by Forza Piadina; Mar 22, 2020 @ 10:18am
Flamboyant Mar 22, 2020 @ 10:36am 
crit+slash+viral is classic (kills lvl 100 exo units just fine)
https://pasteboard.co/J0iKpTA.jpg
https://pasteboard.co/J0iKVyj.jpg
but yeah, baza is good only on mid level content, basically getting braton with a crazy riven migh be a better option tbh
bubblegumrockya Mar 22, 2020 @ 12:16pm 
Originally posted by NeonDera:
Originally posted by karthik.upadya1:
Build for viral. Switch high voltage and malignant force with point strike and hunter munitions.
ok and so i tried to use the euphona prime with 100% crit and 6.5x crit multiplier on the last sortie but it only did 59 dmg xD so with that i need a corrosive mix instead?

https://i.gyazo.com/ca787ca9d5fba9f9d76b9f59e578da59.png
depends on the modifier, if there's one for damage resistance - you might not deal a lot of damage
Firewolfslayer Mar 22, 2020 @ 4:17pm 
swap to viral. Warframe revised killed corrosive. you are missing point strike, vital sense, argon scope, etc. Baza Prime is a crit weapon. You also need hunter munitions
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