Warframe
umbra forma
in the launchers second image for the first tab i see umbra forma's model in the background. has it arrived?
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Thing is umbra mods are really just Prime mods +.

I doubt there would be any issue if they scrapped umbra and renamed them prime.

By having umbra polarity it just means they don't have to backtrack and remove something probably added in haste.
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย ^3Tinkles:
They said they wouldn't be doing it at all when the sacrifice released. Then a couple of months ago hinted at it jokingly, then they release this. So much for a 'sacrifice'. Scroll up quite a few comments already mentioned this.

That doesn't really explain much, people are mad because DE said a while ago they weren't going to do it, then they changed their mind. Like nobody has ever done that before in the history of mankind.

C'est la vie.

I remember when people were saying that the Umbral mods were ♥♥♥♥, now it's a 'power creep' for Umbral Forma. 'Kay. This community is so split its sometimes ridiculous.
I keep hearing this about "DE will never add umbra forma" stuff yet I've searched for a while and find no source about this. Where did you people hear this from anyway?
oh boy I get to forma my inaros again
...so how is excalibur umbra special now? they took away the one thing that made him special in terms of gameplay. Now every random basic frame can have umbral polarity because ♥♥♥♥ lore and ♥♥♥♥ making umbra unique am i right?
I hope there's ton of posts in warframe's own forum to remove umbra forma reward entirely.
แก้ไขล่าสุดโดย Franss the Coffee Addict; 28 ก.พ. 2019 @ 1: 36am
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Josh1.0:
...so how is excalibur umbra special now? they took away the one thing that made him special in terms of gameplay. Now every random basic frame can have umbral polarity because ♥♥♥♥ lore and ♥♥♥♥ making umbra unique am i right?
Well, he comes with a whole set of Umbra Forma pre-installed (so three Forma) as well as a Reactor, and it's already max rank up front. You also unlock a sword that comes with the same stuff; free Catalyst, free set of Umbra forma (two in this case) and fully ranked up front

This Umbra Forma stuff... isn't unlocked until you reach rank 29, where each rank costs 10,000 standing, and you only get one single Forma. There is no information on whether or not we will ever get more Umbral Forma in future Nightwave seasons, and according to https://ws.warframestat.us/pc this season will last until May 5th.

That means it's approximately three months between seasons, which means by the time you get a full set of Umbra Forma for your Warframe, it will have been at least half a year to nine months. Plenty of time for Excal Umbra to still be special, I would say.
แก้ไขล่าสุดโดย Pakaku; 28 ก.พ. 2019 @ 1: 40am
I don't even necessarily think "power creep" is automatically a bad thing. That's just what happens naturally when new content is brought to any game like this, it's not a problem Warframe specifically has.
New weapon releases generally tend to be bit stronger than the older ones so that people are interested in getting them. Kitguns especially were a huge "powercreep". Rivens were a huge powercreep. Arcanes were a huge powercreep. Every new mod Warframe could possibly release that would be worth replacing an old one in your build would be powercreep.
Avoiding that is just impossible, and probably not even desirable. People playing any game like this generally want to be able to become stronger as the time goes on.
Seems you can get one every 3 months atm - limited enough to be tolerable.
Limited enough I will likely be storing it / unable to decide where to put it ^^
I do hope they avoid making them more common.
To be perfectly honest, Umbra Forma didn't make Umbra Excalibur not unique, having Umbral Mods be equippable on every frame did that. Umbra Forma just makes it a far less tedious Forma dump then it currently is, which I don't have a problem with. Having Umbral mods be equippable on every frame, not so much.
No_Quarter (ถูกแบน) 28 ก.พ. 2019 @ 4: 21am 
Umbral Mods came with quest named Sacrifice. To put in Umbral Mods in builds you had ot sacrifice some things. Umbral Forma removes that aspect so it it yolo. Also introduced AFTER they said they won't do it so people invested 7+ forma to make their builds into Umbra builds.
So apart from it being a lie it is also bait and switch which players will always dislike.

As mentioned many times over and over, I hope this is a one time exclusive thingy and that is it.
I would not like it to be more common than one per year.

I do not find it a huge issue there is ONE Umbral Forma out there. But of possible outcomes on what DE will do with it next, like if it becomes a thing you farm on regular it is a pretty crappy move that ♥♥♥♥♥ on our forma investments and IF they wanted power creep there are easier ways, like I suggested many times they can make ALL warframe augments to fit in Exilus Slot. Many warframes would get a direct buff from this as in most cases benefit from exilus slot is do do unless you put mobility mod in there OR a warframe augment.

Much less dirty way to do it, and it would make Exilus adapter way more viable than it is now, 2 fixes in one move.
Umbral Polarity ♥♥♥♥♥ on out dedication to do 7+ forma, ♥♥♥♥♥ potentially on people's money and lowers player's trust in devs.

From objective standpoint I could see then doing better things than htis, but I am most worried what is next with it.
If it is a one time thing than any new player will cry.
If they make it common enough so everyone can get it than dedicated players will have stupid op builds and again it would be a cleveland steamer on our dedication we had before.
If they make it limited in a sense that each player can have only like few of them then I can see it being right.
Problem with that however is that every few months we get a new warframe, we get new primes so there could be a new warframe you would prefer to have your Umbral Forma on.

So limited number per account and you can take it down and move it to another warframe.
It still sucks but I cannot see a better way to handle this in the long run, like 3-5 per account and you can take it down, like taking it down uses form abut does not drop to lvl 0 or something.

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Archwraith:
I keep hearing this about "DE will never add umbra forma" stuff yet I've searched for a while and find no source about this. Where did you people hear this from anyway?
think it was a dev stream and question was on chat, think Steve said something like "Not happening".

I could be wrong tho, I do not claim this. Steve is a director but far from only guy in game so it could be someone else insisted it goes in the game
แก้ไขล่าสุดโดย No_Quarter; 28 ก.พ. 2019 @ 4: 21am
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย No_Quarter:
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Archwraith:
I keep hearing this about "DE will never add umbra forma" stuff yet I've searched for a while and find no source about this. Where did you people hear this from anyway?
think it was a dev stream and question was on chat, think Steve said something like "Not happening".

I could be wrong tho, I do not claim this. Steve is a director but far from only guy in game so it could be someone else did it.
That's way too vague as a source...
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Archwraith:
I keep hearing this about "DE will never add umbra forma" stuff yet I've searched for a while and find no source about this. Where did you people hear this from anyway?
because they are idiots that overreact over anything for attention probably.

Anyway Umbra forma is great for new players that have no primed mods, DE will probably only give this one now and another in another season/event.
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย No_Quarter:
Umbral Polarity ♥♥♥♥♥ on out dedication to do 7+ forma, ♥♥♥♥♥ potentially on people's money and lowers player's trust in devs.
But you also made this build far, far earlier into the game than the effects Umbral Forma will efen start to have. Consider it a sort of "early access" to the mods.

Same thing if you invest into an item that gains a Prime later. You got to use a powerful build early in the game, and it's not like it loses viability just because a new forma is added.

If you can't accept the idea that your builds may get power creeped later (potentially months or years later), then you're never going to enjoy game content as it gets added because you'll keep putting off super-builds in some insane anticipation of the power creep.
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย No_Quarter:
Umbral Mods came with quest named Sacrifice. To put in Umbral Mods in builds you had ot sacrifice some things. Umbral Forma removes that aspect so it it yolo. Also introduced AFTER they said they won't do it so people invested 7+ forma to make their builds into Umbra builds.
So apart from it being a lie it is also bait and switch which players will always dislike.
That "7+ Forma" thing is an exaggeration though. Even Warframes like Nidus that actually would benefit from all three Umbral mods only need 5 Forma for a fully optimised Umbral Nidus build. I can't think of a single Warframe that would actually need more than 7 Forma for anything at all.

And it's not like the Umbra Forma would mean all those Forma were wasted, it means that maybe 1 or 2 of them were unnecessary, and that is really small loss for any sort of veteran player who actually bothers to make bunch of Umbral mod builds. Umbra Forma doesn't mean that anyone actually wasted 7+ Forma on anything.
แก้ไขล่าสุดโดย Miro Laaksonen; 28 ก.พ. 2019 @ 4: 49am
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