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Nox Tenebris 8 ABR 2019 a las 17:10
Best Warframe for "Mage" Build?
I'd like a warframe that I can cast a lot of abilities with. Volt is one of my favorites but he doesn't have a way to regen energy except for with universal mods and void dash. Are there some decent frames with some good abilities that have some way to viability regen energy? Nidus is the only one I can think of. Looking for others.

*Edit* by "Mage" I basically mean a Warframe who's abilities I can consistently rely on for damage. Doesn't necessarily have to be ranged. Good examples people have come up with are Garuda and Nezha.
Última edición por Nox Tenebris; 8 ABR 2019 a las 19:17
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Carnasid 8 ABR 2019 a las 19:57 
Publicado originalmente por Nox Tenebris:
This one also seems really nice. By "Mage" I mostly mean being able to viabily rely on my abilities for damage. This Warframe fits that bill and a ability solely designed for getting energy back is just what I'm looking for.

Khora with a build that focuses on her first ability, which happens to be a frontal cone aoe whip. Slap Rage and a heavily modded melee weapon on her and she can clear sortie and higher level missions by literally just spamming 1 and getting shot at so she can spam 1 more. That's right, she's the S&M frame.

Edit: Oh, you will want the Whipclaw augment for her also to add stacking damage potential which allows her 1 to reach truly absurd damage values.
Última edición por Carnasid; 8 ABR 2019 a las 19:59
Sterling 8 ABR 2019 a las 20:06 
I mean, you have Trinity and Harrow for constant energy regen. Like, as in "an actual part of their kit is giving energy". If we count stuff like rage builds, anyone with life strike, healing return and rage can be a mage, as well as nearly immortal.
massgunner32 8 ABR 2019 a las 20:31 
I just renembered, the newcomer Hyldrin has quasiinfinite energy and has pretty good damage and defense abilities.
Syad 8 ABR 2019 a las 22:56 
Oberon is the shaman support mage
Saryn is a battlewitch and doesn't have energy problems.
If by mage you mean caster frames them I'm your guy. Those are my specialty.

Mag - my go to main frame recently. She's a powerhouse to the point where in a sortie 3 Grineer survival, 2 of my team mates stated they will stop shooting and just focus on reviving the ones that fall because they no damage anyway because of me. She's not easy to play tho, she require good knowledge and a good combination between frame and weapon to fully unlock her potential. Think of it like her weapons are augments for her powers, combo right and nothing can stand against you. Her builds are sent versatile but she can be energy hungry at times.

Banshee - you can think of this gal as the opposite of Mag in a way. While Mag uses her weapons to augment her powers, Banshee posses the most OMFGBBQOPBROKEN damage boost in the game, Sonar. Bunch of those on a target and even an unmodded stock Lato will hit as hard as a Riven Tiberon Prime on an unmarked enemy. Tho Banshee is squishy, forget paper, she's made of wet napkins, so beside Sonar, her other abilities are used to keep her ass alive. She's decently versatile and not an energy eater, but again, squishy.

Garuda - this lady is a killing machine. Although you can use a 1-4 cheese build, that's all that build has going for it, cheese. Garuda is a bruiser, her main use for her basic abilities is to survive and her ult is a damage buff. It works a bit differently from base slash, as instead of taking only 35% of the base damage from the weapon, it takes 35% of all damage the enemy took, hence 1-4 cheese combo.

Khora - The crazy Kavat lady has a few builds at her disposal, but the majority are cheese builds, not actual caster type builds. A full all rounder build is what you want, tho it will be harder to play and a tad weaker than the 1 build around her whip, but it makes up with sheer versatily and it can still hard carry sorties, and it's also much more fun, after all spamming 1 all mission is booooooring.

Equinox - the sorceress supreme. Just say screw it to those cheese Maim builds, make a Duality one, a pair of Arcane Trickery and you have access to everything her kit offers and all abilities are strong and there's basically nothing she can't do beside give energy for free.

Oberon - got an issue? He got a solution. Not as Swiss knife as Equinox but pretty much has a cheat death ability, buffs, debuffs, CC, you name it, he got it. Except for free energy.

Harrow - Talking about the full package, he has it all, CC, cheat death, buffs of all kinds from healing, damage, reload speed and free energy. Tho as play style, he's the Samuel L. Jackson of supports. He doesn't stay back to look pretty, he's gonna go all out hands dirty.

Nidus - ugly.

Nezha - spamming 3 and 4 isn't actual casting but if he fits your bill, go for it.

Ivara - best frame in the game. Another full package without free energy but she kills anything that moves from level 1 to level 12 gajitribimillion and is the strongest endurance frame in the game.

Ash - full package without free energy. Endurance frame, nuff said.

And saved the best for last

Titania - energy hungry dps, buff, debuff, CC, disarm and she's pretty.

And that's pretty much it when it comes to caster frames.

There are some that can be good casters depending on build and their caster builds are more fun, but their main role is as a 1 ability wonders. The honourable mentions are: Nova, Zephir, Nekros, Ember, Excalibur, Mesa, Rhino, Saryn and Frost.

I didn't mention Baruuk and Hildrin as I'm still experimenting with Baruuk and I don't own Hildrin yet.

If I forgot something, feel free to mention.
Última edición por C.C. 折オリ枝 の 夫; 9 ABR 2019 a las 1:13
pavig 9 ABR 2019 a las 1:55 
Mag is highly underrated as a caster frame, because she is squishy... but if you want a mage build then squishy is kindof in-theme. Pull spawns energy orbs, combined with quick thinking mod makes her pretty unkillable as long as you can keep her energy up. Her bubble acts as both really effective CC on chokepoints, denial for problem tanky units, and great damage. You'll have to stay mobile and play very active, to keep her healthy, but she's great once you get the right build and figure out your style.
Syad 9 ABR 2019 a las 2:02 
Mag and banshee are trash. Their survivability wouldn't be such a big of a problem if they actually would do dps, but they fail even at that.
Publicado originalmente por Syad:
Mag and banshee are trash. Their survivability wouldn't be such a big of a problem if they actually would do dps, but they fail even at that.

Then you are really bad at playing. Banshee has the best damage amp in the game, if you can aim, while Mag is a powerhouse when used properly.
Kawalorn 9 ABR 2019 a las 2:16 
Pretty much all Warframes can spam abilities if you max out Efficiency and/or you get energy regeneration from Focus or Arcanes.
Última edición por Kawalorn; 9 ABR 2019 a las 2:17
Kay 9 ABR 2019 a las 2:18 
A personal favourite of mine is Nidus, passive HP regen coupled with rage means tons of energy, plus his 1 regenerates energy by hitting opponents, and adds stacks to a pool that increases your damage, leading to pretty damn good damage you gain by constantly using abilities, plus you never run out of energy and his lack of Shields frees up mod slots.

He can also put down a heal over time aura, boost friendly (and his) power strength, and his 4 spawns little bugs which latch on to enemies, if you detonate those with his 1 it can double their damage.

Garuda has already been mentioned and explained, she's lovely too, another favourite frame.

Valkyr is another personal favourite, again ignoring shield mods, stacking health, armour, and rage for energy gain then using her 4 (hysteria) for invincibility and energy claws to regain the lost health, using her 3 to buff everyone's melee and her 2 to set up finishers, at the expense of the shield you won't be using, plus her 1 to feel like a very angry spiderman
Sceles 9 ABR 2019 a las 2:25 
There are plenty of ways to manage energy in this game: Zenurik, Streamline, Fleeting Expertise, Flow/Primed Flow, duration mods, Synth Fiber+Equilibrium, Energy Generator, Large Energy Restores, Arcane Energize, Trinity specter, syndicate procs, etc. If you use these to your advantage you should not run into energy problems with any frame.

As for which frames to use to deal damage, people in this thread have been suggesting whatever so OP should take everything with a huge grain of salt.

I'm just going to say Saryn and leave it at that.
Nox Tenebris 9 ABR 2019 a las 2:28 
Publicado originalmente por Sceles:
There are plenty of ways to manage energy in this game: Zenurik, Streamline, Fleeting Expertise, Flow/Primed Flow, duration mods, Synth Fiber+Equilibrium, Energy Generator, Large Energy Restores, Arcane Energize, Trinity specter, syndicate procs, etc. If you use these to your advantage you should not run into energy problems with any frame.

As for which frames to use to deal damage, people in this thread have been suggesting whatever so OP should take everything with a huge grain of salt.

I'm just going to say Saryn and leave it at that.
I am aware of this. However, like I said I am still early on at MR 8. I don't have a lot of those options of energy, so this is why I'm asking for a self-sustained energy frame. Also, a lot of what people are mentioning are in sync with what others are. I'm getting a good idea of what type of frames fit my build.
Syad 9 ABR 2019 a las 2:55 
Volt can be self sufficient if you got 175% efficiency and maxed energizing dash. But Volt is squishy and wants a party with corrosive projection. Saryn can go into full melee mode at will and also can strip armor. She is one of the very few frames in the game who isn't locked into corrosive projection aura. That having said, visually she is not a "mage" type, more like a "debuffer" type. A debuffer with deadly consequences.
Jangkrik 9 ABR 2019 a las 5:28 
Publicado originalmente por Hursti:
energizing dash + arcane energize covers all your energy regen needs with pretty much any frame.
You're speaking as if 90% of the player base has maxed energize and are actively using it lol.

On topic, if you want a traditional caster with lots of spells, try Equinox. She has 2x3 + 1 (change form) spell on total. She also has a massive nuke, but you have to "fuel" its damage by killing enemies.

For the damage part, Saryn and Mesa are the standard for genocide mode on anything alive in the map (or line of sight in case of Mesa). For Corpus, Mag is also very strong due to her anti shield skills.
Última edición por Jangkrik; 9 ABR 2019 a las 5:29
GunsForBucks (Bloqueado) 9 ABR 2019 a las 5:41 
I have a base Frost I use for energy reduction sorties.

Large range with some efficiency and primed Flow/Flow.

I can even spam the bubble over the moving defense target.. as long as I don't go nuts it maintains pretty well off normal drops. Even casting 4 when needed isn't an issues.. again can't really spam too much... but outside energy reduction sorties you can go pretty nuts.

Also energy restore pizza is your friend when in dire need... have them set to a quick key.
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