God why are they pushing fortuna so hard

[OH]

I just got the hildryn bundle and now I find out I have to get to the final rank of the fortuna clan just to get the archgun deployer otherwise the gravimag they just gave me is useless, this means I have to farm fortuna standing over and over just to get to use the archgun outside of archwing missions, however I ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hate fortuna because it's poorly optimized and both of the open worlds just kinda suck in general

[Cylixx]

Publicado originalmente por Totally Innocent Chatbot:

Can straight-up buy more Gravimags for 20p apiece or build them using a clan research blueprint, not sure where you got this idea from.

Didn't notice.

Publicado originalmente por OH:

It's hard when fortuna is such a mess, and again no I didn't because they literally sold something that doesn't do anything on it's own even though its description on the store blatantly tells you that it lets you use the arch-gun as a heavy weapon and never explains that it requires you to complete an event first

My point is that it's a bad bundle. Hildryn and Gravimag are obtained from the same place, the Gravimag actually being much easier to get than Hildryn.

And really if you are only upset over the 20p Gravimag, which Bot pointed out you can buy on the market... You got a Hildryn too yeah? Much more grinding necessary to obtain her pieces and build her.

My mates little brother spent 2000p on an Ash Prime. Bad stuff happens when you don't know exactly what you are doing.

[OH]

Publicado originalmente por Cylixx:

Publicado originalmente por Totally Innocent Chatbot:

Can straight-up buy more Gravimags for 20p apiece or build them using a clan research blueprint, not sure where you got this idea from.

Didn't notice.

Publicado originalmente por OH:

It's hard when fortuna is such a mess, and again no I didn't because they literally sold something that doesn't do anything on it's own even though its description on the store blatantly tells you that it lets you use the arch-gun as a heavy weapon and never explains that it requires you to complete an event first

My point is that it's a bad bundle. Hildryn and Gravimag are obtained from the same place, the Gravimag actually being much easier to get than Hildryn.

And really if you are only upset over the 20p Gravimag, which Bot pointed out you can buy on the market... You got a Hildryn too yeah? Much more grinding necessary to obtain her pieces and build her.

My mates little brother spent 2000p on an Ash Prime. Bad stuff happens when you don't know exactly what you are doing.

No the problem is that I bought the full hildryn bundle that costs like 550 plat because they make it seem as if the gravimag is all you need especially based on the fact that they feature it in the bundle at all

[CazadorDeLobo]

Can someone lock this, it's just op having to repeat himself a billion times

[OH]

Publicado originalmente por Cylixx:

My mates little brother spent 2000p on an Ash Prime. Bad stuff happens when you don't know exactly what you are doing.

I shouldn't have to go out of my way looking it up on the wikia just to figure out that there's a missing component, important information like that should be clearly stated, and honestly that's a problem with warframe in general, there are so many things you wouldn't know unless you look it up, they have some serious issues when it comes to transparency

[Cylixx]

I agree with you man But I also think that if you wanted the gravi mag, and were looking for things on the market that gave you a gravimag, then why not just buy the gravimag?

WF could do with some improvement in how confusing stuff like this is, but it's also a game with lots and lots of stuff, many layers of UI, many grind trees. At some point we do have a responsibility to know what we are buying.

[DLOZanma]

Publicado originalmente por OH:

1. I already explained to you what I meant by endgame 2. Like I said the problem is the way they sell the bundle, they don't even tell you that the archgun deployer exists, I've been trying to explain that my real problem is that they include a gravimag in the bundle at all and the description of the gravimag itself would make you think that its all you need

You never explained anything. "Progressing to the final clan rank it's basically endgame" is dumb and means nothing, considering you could be a new player, never go beyond Venus and still be at Old Mate just by catching rats and dogs. Nice "endgame" right there, folks.

Not mentioning the game's launcher at Profit-Taker's release, "Before we can take on the Profit-Taker, we need to discover a weakness in its defenses. Work with Solaris United to get the intel and the tools you need to get the job done". As other people said yes archguns have an external use but they were meant for PF first and foremost.

None of the other things i mentioned that are buyable tell you that you need to have any of those segments to use them either, yet no one ever had this issue that you have. Why is that?

Nobody buys an helicopter for personal use without learning about being a pilot or hiring one. Though yes, despite you being too lazy to play the game, you're actually right in the fact that they should've had a warning telling you that you have to keep playing the game further. That was dumb on their part. Not that it still justifies this amount of complaining though.

[Nihil sub sole novum]

LOL, i read this comment chain and remember that time someone told me WarFrame had a "friendly and helpful community", he was arrested later that year and convicted of being a pedophile.

[No_Quarter]

Publicado originalmente por DLOZanma:

you're actually right in the fact that they should've had a warning telling you that you have to keep playing the game further.

ummm....

1) no purchase in Warframe ever tells you that, nor it tells you that after you buy this one you can close the game

2) Gravimag was NEVER listed in said collection.

If it was listed it could be a spoiler so it is a no no, also it is a no no to sell it as it is a quest item that you need to find out about - it is not something known to Tenno like Forma is.

I really see no issues, it is VERY stupid to expect that one purchase should replace an entire faction level up and amount of rage from OP kinda shows that he does not plan to learn or even find out that leveling up Fortuna stuff is one of the fastest things in this game.

Same with Harrow, you can buy Harrow, but you cannot buy that spoiler quest item you get. It is a decoration but it cannot be bought as it is a quest item.

Same as you cannot buy an operator, you cannot buy a warframe with 6 forma, like, even if you buy all the maxed mods, riven, weapon - you still need to do 5 forma on it.

Same here, I really see no problems with DE not selling quest item.

[Fingusa of the East]

Publicado originalmente por Pontem Super Tenebrosa Aqua:

LOL, i read this comment chain and remember that time someone told me WarFrame had a "friendly and helpful community", he was arrested later that year and convicted of being a pedophile.

Basically.

[NimrodAbsolution⁧⁧98]

Publicado originalmente por No_Quarter:

it is VERY stupid to expect that one purchase should replace an entire faction level up

Buying zaws and other modular gear directly bypasses faction rank requirements (iirc)

[OH]

Publicado originalmente por Cylixx:

I agree with you man But I also think that if you wanted the gravi mag, and were looking for things on the market that gave you a gravimag, then why not just buy the gravimag?

WF could do with some improvement in how confusing stuff like this is, but it's also a game with lots and lots of stuff, many layers of UI, many grind trees. At some point we do have a responsibility to know what we are buying.

I didn't want the gravimag I wanted everything else in the bundle and assumed that the inclusion of the gravimag meant that that was what I need ed to turn it into a heavy weapon, that's what I've been saying happened from the beginning

[OH]

Publicado originalmente por Pontem Super Tenebrosa Aqua:

LOL, i read this comment chain and remember that time someone told me WarFrame had a "friendly and helpful community", he was arrested later that year and convicted of being a pedophile.

God I love when people say that

[No_Quarter]

Publicado originalmente por taco:

Publicado originalmente por No_Quarter:

it is VERY stupid to expect that one purchase should replace an entire faction level up

Buying zaws and other modular gear directly bypasses faction rank requirements (iirc)

do you also get a fully forma'd zaw with an arcane?

[OH]

Publicado originalmente por No_Quarter:

Publicado originalmente por DLOZanma:

you're actually right in the fact that they should've had a warning telling you that you have to keep playing the game further.

ummm....

1) no purchase in Warframe ever tells you that, nor it tells you that after you buy this one you can close the game

2) Gravimag was NEVER listed in said collection.

If it was listed it could be a spoiler so it is a no no, also it is a no no to sell it as it is a quest item that you need to find out about - it is not something known to Tenno like Forma is.

I really see no issues, it is VERY stupid to expect that one purchase should replace an entire faction level up and amount of rage from OP kinda shows that he does not plan to learn or even find out that leveling up Fortuna stuff is one of the fastest things in this game.

Same with Harrow, you can buy Harrow, but you cannot buy that spoiler quest item you get. It is a decoration but it cannot be bought as it is a quest item.

Same as you cannot buy an operator, you cannot buy a warframe with 6 forma, like, even if you buy all the maxed mods, riven, weapon - you still need to do 5 forma on it.

Same here, I really see no problems with DE not selling quest item.

WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE GRAVIMAG WASN'T LISTED IN THE COLLECTION I WAS LOOKING RIGHT AT IT IN THE BUNDLE WHEN I BOUGHT IT.

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ it's like you want to ignore everything I'm saying, 1. We are saying that there should be warnings not that there are warning . 2. The problem is the misleading advertisement of the gravimags . Are you being willfully ignorant or are you just a troll?

[OH]

Publicado originalmente por No_Quarter:

Publicado originalmente por taco:

Buying zaws and other modular gear directly bypasses faction rank requirements (iirc)

do you also get a fully forma'd zaw with an arcane?

Was that supposed to deflate his argument?