Focus farm build and other questions

[raz]

Hey buddys, im MR21 with 600hrs ingame but i never focused on farming focus points leveling Operator etc.
Now i thought i should do something about that, and make some builds for every school.

The Example (this is just an example)
Naramon = Saryn,amprex,pyrana,galatine
Zenurik=Volt,karak,euphona,War
Madurai=Mesa,boar,lex,nikana
Vazarin=Mirage,latron,aklex,dual skana
Unairu=Chroma,ignis,akstiletto,mios

As i wrote these are just example and weapons i wrote what comes first in my mind.
The idea is to give all of them the same lens, to get the maximum focus out,if i need a specific one i will go with this frame.

So your job is give me some suggestions
So you will wrote something like

Saryn=amprex,aklex, with mios and Saryn range 200,eff 120,duration 150, strength 150.
So something like that hope you understand what i mean.

Other question is what is the eidolon lens is that something like a upgraded lens for the other ones and should i get this lens instead of going for the normal ones?

And the last thing i wanna talk about, months ago i was farming khora luckely i got a volt in my team and he nuked always the map and on stage 6 i got something lile 125.000 focus points. And that was on the normal onslaught not elite.

Yesterday i go with my volt and try it but in the ESO i played till stage 12/13 with some randoms and the highest amount i got was i think 8.000 or 10.000 im not sure.
So im wondering how did i get months ago 125.000 focus points?
Did this volt use something like a special lens?

If you read everything, thank you for youre patience, if you respond to it thanks for taking youre time for me.
Cheers.

[Herozen]

higher tier lenses will increas the multiplier for affinity > focus.

[PhellAsleep]

If you are MR21 already, you're probably better off just farming the Tridolons and converting the shards into affinity.

[Handoiron]

Yeah tridolons for focus. You can get more focus than your daily cap in 1 night phase if you get 2-3 tricaps. It's also separate from the cap so you can get over a million a day if you run enough tridolons.

If you absolutely must hit the focus cap between night phases, then I recommend building the "meta" focus farm frames. Buff Rhino, EV trinity, Discharge Volt, Saryn, Equinox and looking in recruitment chat for an ESO Focus farm group.

What weapons you use won't matter because 99.9% of the kills will be ability kils by Saryn / Volt / Equinox. Pick 5 melee weapons that you can make work with Sleep Equinox Adaro focus farming and put 1 each of the 5 schools' Eidolon lenses on them. That way, you can always run a fast Adaro to get some focus solo if you need to.

Put at least a base lens in each frame. I'd switch saryn then volt to Eidolon lenses first (after the melee weapons get theirs).

Never take a weapon that doesn't have your best lens level in it. An empty equipment spot is better than a stock lens to soak and "waste" focus that could be going to the eidolon lens'd weapon you also brought.

Never use a Greater Lens, It's stupid easy to upgrade them to Eidolon Lens and you can't get the Greater Lens back out to upgrade after you install it. You should always put a normal Lens in as a placeholder until you get an Eidolon Lens for that piece of equipment.

[Syad]

ESO focus farm is more efficient than eidolons.

[JOESEPH MY BELOVED]

You kinda have the wrong idea, you have a Dailey focus cap of around 350k at your MR, you will want to cap that by putting the desired lense on volt or saryn and doing ESO, 1-2 8 wave runs will cap you for the day, eidilons can then be done because the shards they drop can be redeemed for focus that ignores the Dailey cap.

Naramom and Madurai are the meta schools, anything that REQUIRES operator relateded things will strictly need one of those schools or heavily benefit from it, Zenurik is okay because of energy dash, but it’s not meta and you shouldn’t bother with it, the other 2 are utter trash.

You want to level everything in naramom or Madurai (naramom better for eido farming but if you like Madurai better it’s still great), then unlock the way-bound passives of all the other schools, the abilities that are titled as way bound passives are able to be active all the time no matter what school you use, just unlock the waybounds for other schools tho, you can only have 1 school active at a time and you really wouldn’t want to swap from one to another like a build.

[JOESEPH MY BELOVED]

Also to be able to earn the 130k++ focus in 8 runs of ESO you can use just a default Lens but your saryn/volt build needs to be perfect, you want max 280% range on both of them, volt wants about 170% strength and enough duration so that his 4 lasts 10 seconds ( it you use 4 twice in 10 second period during ESO the ability becomes locked for 15 seconds). Saryn wants 130 strength, 170 duration, the max range and the rest efficiency.

A meta ESO run has saryn and volt nuking all enemies over and over instantly killing them, you have a trinity ev for infinite energy and a rhino with a buff buff build so you keep insta killing in the later rounds.
No one is running around shooting, everyone is in one place spamming their 1 buttton, nothing else.

Because I have a smeeta kavat I am able to cap my focus in 1 8 wave run using either saryn or volt, some times 2 if I’m not lucky ( I only have default lens on just the warframe).

[CazadorDeLobo]

Stealth-gained affinity boost is key. I wait for Eximus Stronghold sortie missions and bring a Sniper Rifle with hush to them, and just focus farm this way. Easily get 30k stealth headshotting everything.

[Handoiron]

Originally posted by Syad:

ESO focus farm is more efficient than eidolons.

Incorrect. If you can 3x3 tridolon in 1 45 min night you can get 400-500 thousand focus PLUS arcanes and quills standing if you still need it. You can do that multiple times a day.

If you get a good focus farm squad, you can get at most 350-380 thousand focus in about 30 minutes once a day and almost nothing else. Maybe a few relics or vandal pieces.

You can do both of course but Eidolons are a much better use of time. Even if you have absolutely no need of arcanes for your own use, you can sell them to other players for decent plat.

Basically, only run ESO if it won't interfere with Eidolon run time. Or just use the time between night phases to do other things.

[JOESEPH MY BELOVED]

Originally posted by Handoiron:

Originally posted by Syad:

ESO focus farm is more efficient than eidolons.

Incorrect. If you can 3x3 tridolon in 1 45 min night you can get 400-500 thousand focus PLUS arcanes and quills standing if you still need it. You can do that multiple times a day.

If you get a good focus farm squad, you can get at most 350-380 thousand focus in about 30 minutes once a day and almost nothing else. Maybe a few relics or vandal pieces.

You can do both of course but Eidolons are a much better use of time. Even if you have absolutely no need of arcanes for your own use, you can sell them to other players for decent plat.

Basically, only run ESO if it won't interfere with Eidolon run time. Or just use the time between night phases to do other things.

If he is just starting out in the whole operator thing he will unlikely be able to do even 1x2, only after a lot of focus is gained and he has all the meta builds will he be able to do eido more effectively.

[Syad]

Originally posted by Handoiron:

Originally posted by Syad:

ESO focus farm is more efficient than eidolons.

Incorrect. If you can 3x3 tridolon in 1 45 min night you can get 400-500 thousand focus...

If you get a good focus farm squad, you can get at most 350-380 thousand focus in about 30 minutes

700k/hour is more that 500k/hour.

To beat ESO focus in efficiency, you'd have to do a 4x3. Which is unlikely with a Mote amp, no experience, and no focus schools unlocked, so i'm not quite sure why you disagree, considering you even posted the numbers. ( same goes for a 3x3) Even a 1x3 is barely possible,so you are looking at 700k vs 200k or ESO being 3-4 times more efficient.

[raz]

Thanks first for the replys.
The think about eidolon/tridolon is..
I have still the starter amp.. and i dont have any good riven for my rubico or something strong.

And just going for a random group and hoping they can carry me ... they will flame me. I did that one time and i got a lot of flame because i did not any damage.
But anyways thanks for the answers

[Snow]

Originally posted by RazeL ツ:

Thanks first for the replys.
The think about eidolon/tridolon is..
I have still the starter amp.. and i dont have any good riven for my rubico or something strong.

And just going for a random group and hoping they can carry me ... they will flame me. I did that one time and i got a lot of flame because i did not any damage.
But anyways thanks for the answers

If you don't want to be a mooch, just go solo and fight the tera. Slowly poke down his shield and kill all the vomas that come for cores, pretty easy way to get quill rep to get better amps.

I recently did this and was able to easily kill 2 limbs a night solo(With the crappy mote amp), which gave a fair amount of rep from all the intact cores from vomas + 2 exceptional ones from the limbs.

[Syad]

Solo a Teralyst with a mote amp is a horrible idea. Pitiful damage and pitiful focus.

Realistically you only need to get a 227 amp ( Shwaak Prism, Shraksun Scaffold, Certus Brace(fortuna)) and you can do the Tridolon 1x3 quest from Konzu and not be a total leech. But that requiers actual wokr.

So do the ESO daily and work on standing for the Quills and Vox Solaris. Since all 3 are gated nothing is lost. By the time you are able to afford an amp you'll get enough focus from ESO to give you some focus basic skills. You need Zenurik, Madurai and probably Naramon depending on your planned progression path.

[Snow]

Originally posted by Syad:

Solo a Teralyst with a mote amp is a horrible idea. Pitiful damage and pitiful focus.

Realistically you only need to get a 227 amp ( Shwaak Prism, Shraksun Scaffold, Certus Brace(fortuna)) and you can do the Tridolon 1x3 quest from Konzu and not be a total leech. But that requiers actual wokr.

So do the ESO daily and work on standing for the Quills and Vox Solaris. Since all 3 are gated nothing is lost. By the time you are able to afford an amp you'll get enough focus from ESO to give you some focus basic skills. You need Zenurik, Madurai and probably Naramon depending on your planned progression path.

Its one of the easier ways to get standing for the quills early on, I wasnt talking about focus. The intact cores come to you lol.