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Void Demons [Spoilers]
Lore discussion;

In the Lore, we learn that Operators attained powerful Void powers during the Zariman 10-0 Inccident, while the adults went mad and were destroyed.

It is also mentioned, or implied, that these raw powers are unstable, chaotic, destructive and hard if not impossible to control. The Ember Prime codex suggests a child badly burned the woman who tryed to help them because they could not control their powers.

This goes on to why they use Warframes. That through the use of Warframe, a body/entity capable of withstanding their power, they can 'focus' or 'tame' their powers.
From The Sacrifice we learn that in return for being the 'Body', the Operator (The 'Mind') 'takes away it's pain'.

Why is it then that we haven't really seen this destructive power? Our Operators at current, while can be 'strong', seem extremely tame compared to what the previous Lore implied. One could argue them have learned to control it somewhat by using is sparingly.

But still, as the Operators get stronger, as the Man in the Wall pulls us deeper into the Voids madness, as the Lotus seems to have betrayed us, as we wait for the a New War with the Sentients, it seems more and more likely that this chaotic, untamed violent power will show itself.

As it implied in the lore, it seems to suggest an Operator is like an unstable nuclear reactor, perhaps even worse. I wonder, will the ongoing emotional and mental issues lead to an outcome were the Operator perhaps goes into a Rage and becomes truely 'Unleased'? I can very much see the Operator loseing it if one or two certain Characters the Operator cares deeply for were to to die for example. Or perhaps some other unforseen traumatic event.

Imagine a raging child with the unstable power of a Void going unchecked as the child decends into madness on an amplified scale. Like the power of several thousand Tsar Bombas in the palm of a unstable child. Something that would be stronger than Sentients and Warframes combined. Something that could destroy the Origin System.

Is this what the Man in the Wall is planning? To turn us into villains?
To turn us into Void Demons?
Last edited by Walrus-Sama; Aug 8, 2018 @ 9:30pm
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Archwraith Aug 8, 2018 @ 9:36pm 
I'd like to think the Man in the Wall just want chaos, the exact opposite of what Lotus (before she goes to Sentient side) want, which is balance. To tip us over and try to make us embrace the chaotic nature of the void itself.

For Operators to get 'unleashed', I believe some heavy trauma is in order as you described, most possible options could be killing Lotus from the way it is right now, where her sentient didn't even think another second to shoot you before running away with Ballas. Though the unleashed nature might be dangerous, when it's tempered by emotion, it will be far more deadly than a spontaneous rage.
Kevin Winston MD Aug 8, 2018 @ 9:39pm 
I really hope in the future we can side with the man in the wall since Im tired of the tenno being seen as force of good.
Titan Aug 8, 2018 @ 9:43pm 
I want to punch that creepy sucker in the chin. He keeps sneaking onto my ship without asking and it's really getting old. By this point he could be a saint among spacefarers for all I care, I WANT HIM OUT OF MY ORBITER.
I think he is just lonely and sad so he wants a hug

He's also probably mad that he doesn't get cool robo warrior waifus
Radioactive Grass Aug 8, 2018 @ 10:28pm 
I think once the childeren where put in the second dream, It really did supress their powers.

After you complete the second dream you can summon your operator fo the feild and he shoots a massive laser beam out of their chest.

Compaired to the powers in The war within, these powers do seem to be untaimed as if your operator dosen't really have controll over the beam when released from the "Crib"

Void beam has always been a sort of standard for the operator since they used it seconds after waking up. Imagine if the second dream had not supressed your operator's powers. Then they would probobly be void dashing all over the place as well.

In the War within, your powers are gone but you slowly gain them as well as your memories from being on the zariman back.

The thing is Teshin is teaching you how to weild these powers when you are regaining them, making the process more stable compaired to a young child gaining powers with no mentor, probobly scared to death, drifting in the void the killer adults.

Just my theory anyway.
medavroog Aug 8, 2018 @ 10:54pm 
Because Baras is a liar ... the "need of Warframe to help tame the power" is just the excuse he use to force the Orokin into the Warframe - in order to torture them. ... just my view.
Watermelons Aug 8, 2018 @ 11:06pm 
Originally posted by medavroog:
Because Baras is a liar ... the "need of Warframe to help tame the power" is just the excuse he use to force the Orokin into the Warframe - in order to torture them. ... just my view.
That's stupid and incorrect
Last edited by Watermelons; Aug 8, 2018 @ 11:06pm
Darkfiro Aug 8, 2018 @ 11:08pm 
Originally posted by medavroog:
Because Baras is a liar ... the "need of Warframe to help tame the power" is just the excuse he use to force the Orokin into the Warframe - in order to torture them. ... just my view.

True but also false the true part come with some of them most notably excal Umbra , However they were at war with Sentient at the time so the false part come into play that some of them wanted to be a Warframe to fight back but went insane til the day a Berserk Rhino went to a area chasing after a guy and then went docile.
Considering that the Man in the Wall’s MO is to drive people into murderous lunatics hellbent on massive destruction (Void exposure in general, the adults on the Zariman, ans Rell’s breakdown) I wouldn’t say your theory is too improbably Senpai.
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