maxxing out umbra modset: worth it?

[Orifan1]

yes, im well aware that if i follow through with this, i wont be able to undo it
im also well aware that it will be very expensive and by the time i get all the credits and endo needed for it, ill have already gotten enough legendary cores to do it anyways
yes, im aware that if i do this, the mods will only be great on umbra

but umbra is my main, and i rarely use his mods on other frames
that in mind: is a maxxed out umbra set worth the drain it applies to umbra?

[Ghin]

It's good on other frames than Excalibur Umbra

[Orifan1]

Originally posted by Ghin:

It's good on other frames than Excalibur Umbra

frames other than umbra? thats a thing?

/s aside, a maxxed out regular vitality grants more health than full set umbra vitality at the rank you get it at. ditto for steel fiber, and for only a little bit more drain. the same cannot be said for intensify, though.
and vitality, steel fiber, and intensify can be forma'd on other frames. the umbra set cannot. the only flaws i see with this idea is the fact that ill be locking myself out of customization options for umbra himself.

[Ghin]

Whats the point of asking for advice if youre gonna ignore it

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1614063202

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1614063226

[Walrus-Sama]

Unless Umbra polarities become a thing, it's not worth it.

Also having a 'main' in Warframe is dumb. Especially a meh frame like Excalibur.

[Kexin]

Originally posted by Orifan1 -PROGRAM-:

yes, im well aware that if i follow through with this, i wont be able to undo it
im also well aware that it will be very expensive and by the time i get all the credits and endo needed for it, ill have already gotten enough legendary cores to do it anyways
yes, im aware that if i do this, the mods will only be great on umbra

but umbra is my main, and i rarely use his mods on other frames
that in mind: is a maxxed out umbra set worth the drain it applies to umbra?

Are you serious? Of course. Unlike normal mods Umbra mods have a multiplier when they're all slotted together, so the more Umbras mods you use, the more powerfully their "strength". So if Umbra is your main, then yes, max them all out and say good bye to your Forma and Endo supply.

[Ghin]

Originally posted by Walrus-Sama:

Unless Umbra polarities become a thing, it's not worth it.

Also having a 'main' in Warframe is dumb. Especially a meh frame like Excalibur.

It is worth it, depending on the frame.

Easy example even you can understand, hopefully without me having to make more screenshots: Inaros

[Walrus-Sama]

Originally posted by Ghin:

Originally posted by Walrus-Sama:

Unless Umbra polarities become a thing, it's not worth it.

Also having a 'main' in Warframe is dumb. Especially a meh frame like Excalibur.

It is worth it, depending on the frame.

Easy example even you can understand, hopefully without me having to make more screenshots: Inaros

Good luck fitting 3x 16 capacity Mods then.

[Orifan1]

Originally posted by Ghin:

Whats the point of asking for advice if youre gonna ignore it

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1614063202

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1614063226

1. 2 forma solves the drain issue
2. thats on umbra in specific, i was reffering to modding other frames that dont have slots for umbra mods

also, were those mods maxed before or after my post?

Originally posted by Kexin:

Originally posted by Orifan1 -PROGRAM-:

yes, im well aware that if i follow through with this, i wont be able to undo it
im also well aware that it will be very expensive and by the time i get all the credits and endo needed for it, ill have already gotten enough legendary cores to do it anyways
yes, im aware that if i do this, the mods will only be great on umbra

but umbra is my main, and i rarely use his mods on other frames
that in mind: is a maxxed out umbra set worth the drain it applies to umbra?

Are you serious? Of course. Unlike normal mods Umbra mods have a multiplier when they're all slotted together, so the more Umbras mods you use, the more powerfully their "strength". So if Umbra is your main, then yes, max them all out and say good bye to your Forma and Endo supply.

*grabs box labelled "endo, plat, and credits"*
im sorry, little ones
*tosses box down a hole*

[No_Quarter]

Originally posted by Walrus-Sama:

Unless Umbra polarities become a thing, it's not worth it.

Also having a 'main' in Warframe is dumb. Especially a meh frame like Excalibur.

for one, combo of 2 Umbral mods, Umbral Intensify and Umbral Vitality or Umbral Fiber gives you enough ability strength to ditch out Power Drift if you are using it.
So you can basically put in Mobilize and have more mobility, free up the mod slot. Depending on yoru build and forma you can get more there. In any case you get more survivability, in some cases a lot more.

Also combining just alone Umbral Intensify and Transient Fotitude give you values of Blind Rage without sacrificing your efficiency.

So I wouold suggest you looking into builds and how your overall builds could benefit from Umbral mods. (if you are lazy come to my stream one evening and I'll be glad to compare it with you)
I find them super damn useful and on most warframes I think putting 2 can be of use.

In most dumb case, Umbral Intensify is just flat out better version of Intensify so why not use it?
Other two Umbral Mods are not as "standalone" as Ubral Intensify is, but if you manage to put any two of them in one build then it is damn ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ worth it to have them.

It is diminishing return over regular mods as you will invest 1 or 2 more forma and you will not gain too much for it, but for warframes you like it sure is fun to make them even tiny bit more better.

being able to make Umbra Polarity would power creep this game too much and would likely make it ♥♥♥♥. Even as is you can benefit from those mods

[Ghin]

Originally posted by Walrus-Sama:

Originally posted by Ghin:

It is worth it, depending on the frame.

Easy example even you can understand, hopefully without me having to make more screenshots: Inaros

Good luck fitting 3x 16 capacity Mods then.

It's not luck, it's elementary school level math.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1614099231

[No1Eye]

Originally posted by Walrus-Sama:

Originally posted by Ghin:

It is worth it, depending on the frame.

Easy example even you can understand, hopefully without me having to make more screenshots: Inaros

Good luck fitting 3x 16 capacity Mods then.

the problem is not only fitting those 3x 16 capacity mods, to other frames other than the excalibur umbra.
the problem is that all other slots have to be polarized in order for those 3x mods to fit in and this restricts the player to using only a certain build after, making it very hard to be changing around and testing out other stuff.

but, OP, do what you want.
my advice is what @Walrus-Sama have said though, unless they release a polarity for umbra mods so to be able to forma slots with them, it does not worth the whole hustle. --->

Originally posted by Walrus-Sama:

Unless Umbra polarities become a thing, it's not worth it.

Also having a 'main' in Warframe is dumb. Especially a meh frame like Excalibur.

[No_Quarter]

Originally posted by Ghin:

Good luck fitting 3x 16 capacity Mods then.

lucky for us we need only 2/3 for noticeable buff and those fit in almost any build

[massgunner32]

Only use them on a Warframe that has a worthy use for the three mods, they get their values increased when you put them togheter, but are almost useless compared to regular ones if you only put one or two.

[Leviathan]

Originally posted by Orifan1 -PROGRAM-:

Originally posted by Ghin:

It's good on other frames than Excalibur Umbra

frames other than umbra? thats a thing?

/s aside, a maxxed out regular vitality grants more health than full set umbra vitality at the rank you get it at. ditto for steel fiber, and for only a little bit more drain. the same cannot be said for intensify, though.
and vitality, steel fiber, and intensify can be forma'd on other frames. the umbra set cannot. the only flaws i see with this idea is the fact that ill be locking myself out of customization options for umbra himself.

Umbral builds are quite common nowadays. Takes a little bit more forma to get done though.

[No_Quarter]

Originally posted by massgunner32:

Only use them on a Warframe that has a worthy use for the three mods, they get their values increased when you put them togheter, but are almost useless compared to regular ones if you only put one or two.

I really struggle to see the logic behind this, Umbral Intensify has 44% buff, regular Intensify is 30%.
Umbral Intensify with 1 other Umbral mod is 55% and you can fit 2 in almost any build. 55%. That is Intensify + Power Drift. And you get bonus from other mod.

So even 1 mod can work well for builds, 2 can be really good and in my opinion fitting all 3 is overkill for survivability as you sacrifice everything else. 2 is sweet spot, but takes forma