Dread, the OP Bow? I thought so, too....

[< Sharp >]

I love Dread. I then got a Vulkar. Unranked, the Vulkar is already OP. I feel that once I max rank it, it';; surpass my maxxed, catalyst installed, Dread.

The Vulkar, with a catalyst, may be better than Dread. This saddens me.

Is there any way to make Dread more OP? Is there a better Bow in-game?

Of course I'm exaggerating my emotions, lol, but, I love my Dread so much. I wish Dread was the best ranged weapon.

[Das Big Hippo]

But Dread is a Bow and Vulkar is a Sniper. Why compare them?

[Sterling]

Well, bows are bows and snipers are snipers. You can't zoom in on a bow, but it has an insane unmodded crit, while the snipers like Vulkar and Lanka require you to zoom in to get better damage. For reference, hipfire both the Dread and the Vulkar.

[Carnasid]

Dread is OP? But Lenz exists...
As for Vulkar, the vanilla vulkar is nice and all, but it's also pretty "meh" damage wise. Vulkar Wraith is an entierly different story, though. And even that is outclassed by Lanka and Rubico.

[pavig]

You can zoom in on a bow but you lose a mod slot to do it :( But yeah, snipers aren't inherently stealthy weapons - they're mostly pretty loud, and in warframe pretty odd to boot.

As for OP bows, there's plenty in game. The cernos is decent, the mutalist cernos that thinks it's a plague carrier is proc heaven, the lenz which is a bow infused with Mag DNA... then there's the cernos prime - my favorite bow that acts like a shotgun and can headshot 5 enemies at a time. Maybe ten if you buff the punchthrough and they're in a tight mob.

The Dread is a great bow and certainly best at what it does best, but definitely not the only game in town when it comes to OP bows.

[Sterling]

Originally posted by pavig:

You can zoom in on a bow but you lose a mod slot to do it

Like, actually zooming in and having bonuses to critical chance, critical damage or headshot damage, or just some mod that literally just decreases your FOV when aiming?

[NITRO]

Originally posted by catgirls420:

I love Dread. I then got a Vulkar. Unranked, the Vulkar is already OP. I feel that once I max rank it, it';; surpass my maxxed, catalyst installed, Dread.

The Vulkar, with a catalyst, may be better than Dread. This saddens me.

Is there any way to make Dread more OP? Is there a better Bow in-game?

Of course I'm exaggerating my emotions, lol, but, I love my Dread so much. I wish Dread was the best ranged weapon.

I love Oranges, but then I tried an apple...

Non-sarcastic answer personally I prefer the Lenz, however, it uses blast damage.

[Grey Star, The Rival Defender]

If you put enough forma on your Dread, and get a riven, it should preform well in everything but Arbitrations as far as I know. Without mods, the thing has a 1/25 chance of delivering a critical slash proc, so there's that.

[pavig]

Originally posted by Sterling:

Originally posted by pavig:

You can zoom in on a bow but you lose a mod slot to do it

Like, actually zooming in and having bonuses to critical chance, critical damage or headshot damage, or just some mod that literally just decreases your FOV when aiming?

Eagle Eye (conclave mod) can increase zoom on "rifles" which includes bows I believe, though you can get the same effect by just adjusting your graphics settings :D

I am pretty sure you can equip Argon Scope to bows, which gives you huge crit buffs for a short time after you land a headshot. If you are that kind of precise player who can consistently land headshots with a bow then that might be of interest. I haven't picked up the mod to test so take what I say with a grain of salt.

[Watermelons]

Originally posted by pavig:

Originally posted by Sterling:

Like, actually zooming in and having bonuses to critical chance, critical damage or headshot damage, or just some mod that literally just decreases your FOV when aiming?

Eagle Eye (conclave mod) can increase zoom on "rifles" which includes bows I believe, though you can get the same effect by just adjusting your graphics settings :D

Just a correction, it isn't a conclave mod, per say. It's just one of the mods that can be used in both modes. A diamond icon on it instead of the conclave icon.

Also yes, you're right. Argon Scope is equippable on Bows.

[^3Tinkles]

Originally posted by RB:

Dread is OP? But Lenz exists...
As for Vulkar, the vanilla vulkar is nice and all, but it's also pretty "meh" damage wise. Vulkar Wraith is an entierly different story, though. And even that is outclassed by Lanka and Rubico.

Not with a good riven it isn't, my wraith has no issues with out damaging lanka's or even rubicos, even when used with chromas.

Dread is actually one of the most powerful bows in the game, even more powerful than the lenz. Lenz is fine for starchart stuff, but even with a damage/crit chance/multishot riven I had awhile back it was lacking on level 140+ stuff, whereas the dread can get a crit and with hunter munitions take out the target (without a riven) in less than 2-3 seconds from one shot. So CC and fire away.

[Carnasid]

Originally posted by ^3Tinkles:

Originally posted by RB:

Dread is OP? But Lenz exists...
As for Vulkar, the vanilla vulkar is nice and all, but it's also pretty "meh" damage wise. Vulkar Wraith is an entierly different story, though. And even that is outclassed by Lanka and Rubico.

Not with a good riven it isn't, my wraith has no issues with out damaging lanka's or even rubicos, even when used with chromas.

Dread is actually one of the most powerful bows in the game, even more powerful than the lenz. Lenz is fine for starchart stuff, but even with a damage/crit chance/multishot riven I had awhile back it was lacking on level 140+ stuff, whereas the dread can get a crit and with hunter munitions take out the target (without a riven) in less than 2-3 seconds from one shot. So CC and fire away.

You had to moves those goal posts so far to make your case, they aren't even on the same field.

[^3Tinkles]

Originally posted by RB:

Originally posted by ^3Tinkles:

Not with a good riven it isn't, my wraith has no issues with out damaging lanka's or even rubicos, even when used with chromas.

Dread is actually one of the most powerful bows in the game, even more powerful than the lenz. Lenz is fine for starchart stuff, but even with a damage/crit chance/multishot riven I had awhile back it was lacking on level 140+ stuff, whereas the dread can get a crit and with hunter munitions take out the target (without a riven) in less than 2-3 seconds from one shot. So CC and fire away.

You had to moves those goal posts so far to make your case, they aren't even on the same field.

I'm not sure what you mean. You need to clarify.

Most people when they get a riven for a weapon plan on using it in endgame (level 100+) so if the weapon cannot perform on that level, why bother using it? Considering all weapons (with enough forma) can be used to conquer the starchart.

[< Sharp >]

Wow thank you all so much for the detailed replies! I guess I can be comfortable with sticking by my dread. I can get some rivens and forma it, and it's good enough for me. I want to become the stalker. And when DE reintroduces the "Stalker Mode", y'all better watch out, because I'm randomly invading EVERYBODY ;)

[jonnin]

Originally posted by A Zinogre:

But Dread is a Bow and Vulkar is a Sniper. Why compare them?

bows are snipers, really. The zoom vs silent is the only major difference, and warframe does not, even in open world, have a lot of long range shooting. I turned my sniper scope off in the settings. Its not exactly apples and apples, but its a bit like a tangerine to an orange.

I don't think a bow will ever be as good as a good sniper rifle. Too many game mechanics are against the long trigger hold, projectile flight time, and such that are drawbacks (pun?) on bows. And with rivens, snipers can get enough crit chance that dread isnt going to lead them by much, even dread with a riven, its not worth it.

[CazadorDeLobo]

Sybaris Prime.

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