MK1 weapon to 30

[dimmu1313]

In one of the guides, it says "I recommend starting by buying all the MK1- weapons in the market (search for "MK1"), and then once you get one to lvl 30, buy the non-MK version of it for credits and sell the old one. Why is that? I have a mk1 paris bow but the non-mk version is available on the market, so why wait to get the non-mk version before leveling the mk1 version to 30?

do mk1 weapons work differently than the non-mk versions? i was thinking maybe i had to get a mk1 to rank 30 to be able to get the non-mk version and that the non-mk would be better, but that doesn't look to be the case.

[Anonn 20 16]

it's because you gain exp. every time you level a weapon, warframe, sentinel etc you gain experience towards ranking up. when you rank up more weapons open for you to build and use and so on. basicaly mk1 are the lowest versions of the weapons but they still give exp and are cheap so starting with those is a good idea.

[StingerRPG]

Because mastery rank. You rank up unused weapons for XP. Mk-1 weapons included.

You can build a Paris now if you desire but you'll be back grinding these Mk-1s very soon.

[dimmu1313]

Originally posted by anon2017:

it's because you gain exp. every time you level a weapon, warframe, sentinel etc you gain experience towards ranking up. when you rank up more weapons open for you to build and use and so on. basicaly mk1 are the lowest versions of the weapons but they still give exp and are cheap so starting with those is a good idea.

so there's no advantage to leveling a mk1 version vs. the non-mk1 version? I can still rank up the non-mk1 version right? Part of the reason I'm asking is because I've gotten blueprints for non-mk weapons, a couple of which I have the mats to craft, and I was wondering if I should buy the mk1 version first and rank that up before building and ranking up the non-mk1 version.

[christopherbailey1967]

I don't think they work differently really, but rather it's a way for you get the basic weapons and use them for Master Rank fodder. This way when you are upper rank you wont have to return to "Noob Weapons" just to find something to rank up to bump you up. IMO of course. I could be wrong.

[JabettKenne]

no, you should forma your mk1 weapons 100 times each, then record yourself selling them

[dimmu1313]

Originally posted by christopherbailey1967:

I don't think they work differently really, but rather it's a way for you get the basic weapons and use them for Master Rank fodder. This way when you are upper rank you wont have to return to "Noob Weapons" just to find something to rank up to bump you up. IMO of course. I could be wrong.

Sorry I'm still confused. Why does it matter whether I rank up the mk1 instead of ranking up the non-mk1 version?

[cafrank]

mk-1's are weaker then there base counterparts so you level them first so you dont have to do them later

[Wintermute]

Originally posted by dimmu1313:

Originally posted by christopherbailey1967:

I don't think they work differently really, but rather it's a way for you get the basic weapons and use them for Master Rank fodder. This way when you are upper rank you wont have to return to "Noob Weapons" just to find something to rank up to bump you up. IMO of course. I could be wrong.

Sorry I'm still confused. Why does it matter whether I rank up the mk1 instead of ranking up the non-mk1 version?

Every weapon, frame and companion holds certain amount of mastery XP behind it. That mastery, combined, goes towards your mastery rank, that you generally want to raise at least to 10-15. Hence the process called "mastery foddering" - crafting and leveling to 30 guns that you won't ever use normally.

MK-1 version of weapon is DIFFERENT than default version (just like Primed, Prisma etc variants are different as well). They both hold mastery in them, and since MK-1 are so easy to aquire, it's generally good idea to level all of them to maximum, for mastery fodder.

[StingerRPG]

Originally posted by dimmu1313:

Sorry I'm still confused. Why does it matter whether I rank up the mk1 instead of ranking up the non-mk1 version?

Let me break it down as simple as possible.

You need XP to level up.

Mk-1 is cheap.

Cheap means easy XP.

There?

[christopherbailey1967]

Originally posted by dimmu1313:

Originally posted by christopherbailey1967:

I don't think they work differently really, but rather it's a way for you get the basic weapons and use them for Master Rank fodder. This way when you are upper rank you wont have to return to "Noob Weapons" just to find something to rank up to bump you up. IMO of course. I could be wrong.

Sorry I'm still confused. Why does it matter whether I rank up the mk1 instead of ranking up the non-mk1 version?

It really doesn't. I haven't ranked up any of the mk1's since the very start where you picked your first weapons. But I can see why someone would get them out of the way first, because as you get better, you may not want to end up grinding a low level weapon up to rank 30 because it will never match you're needs. So while you're still new, use the weak weapons to raising your MR level then toss it for the better version, and so on, and so on.

[dimmu1313]

Originally posted by StingerRPG:

Originally posted by dimmu1313:

Sorry I'm still confused. Why does it matter whether I rank up the mk1 instead of ranking up the non-mk1 version?

Let me break it down as simple as possible.

You need XP to level up.

Mk-1 is cheap.

Cheap means easy XP.

There?

I think from other comments the part I'm not clear on is just how many weapons, etc. need to be leveled to increase MR. Is it that ALL weapons I come across I need to hold onto and level? Is my thinking incorrect that if I have both a mk1 and non-mk1 version of a weapon in my possession, then I only "need" to level the non-mk1 version because it's a better weapon? You mention mk1 being cheap, so if it's a cost thing then that would suggest to me that it doesn't matter which of the two I rank up because I already have the non-mk1 version.

[Unintelligible Crow]

You get MR XP from everything you rank up, therefore you should, over time, rank up all weapons and frames you have. But there is nothing stopping you for mmoving on to non MK-1 wapons. MR is the thing that gates which weapons you can use.

[dimmu1313]

Originally posted by christopherbailey1967:

Originally posted by dimmu1313:

Sorry I'm still confused. Why does it matter whether I rank up the mk1 instead of ranking up the non-mk1 version?

It really doesn't. I haven't ranked up any of the mk1's since the very start where you picked your first weapons. But I can see why someone would get them out of the way first, because as you get better, you may not want to end up grinding a low level weapon up to rank 30 because it will never match you're needs. So while you're still new, use the weak weapons to raising your MR level then toss it for the better version, and so on, and so on.

I realize based on some of the responses that people are probably laughing at my ineptness, but what no one seems to be clarifying is whether I *need* to rank up *both versions*. Are you saying that eventually we encounter less and less new equipment to rank up in order to increase MR and therefore any mk1 equipment unranked would be the only thing left to rank? Part of my confusion is that I'm only MR3 and I have no idea what endgame levelling looks like in this game. From my perspective there seem to be so many weapons, etc. in this game that I'd never run out of stuff to rank up for XP. I'm guessing that thinking is wrong?

[Anonn 20 16]

Originally posted by dimmu1313:

Originally posted by anon2017:

it's because you gain exp. every time you level a weapon, warframe, sentinel etc you gain experience towards ranking up. when you rank up more weapons open for you to build and use and so on. basicaly mk1 are the lowest versions of the weapons but they still give exp and are cheap so starting with those is a good idea.

so there's no advantage to leveling a mk1 version vs. the non-mk1 version? I can still rank up the non-mk1 version right? Part of the reason I'm asking is because I've gotten blueprints for non-mk weapons, a couple of which I have the mats to craft, and I was wondering if I should buy the mk1 version first and rank that up before building and ranking up the non-mk1 version.

of course you can rank anything you like. the reason we suggest to rank up the mk1 weapons early is because you will never use them again. 99.9% of people sell them as soon as they get ranked up. the reason is that the non mk1 versions of the weapons have better stats. you can level up whatever you like and level the mk1 weapons when you want to, there is no rush.

[StingerRPG]

You SHOULD level anything that comes your way. Reaching MR16 which is the highest gate right now is essential that you collect as much as possible and level them too.
And no, Mk-1 weapons are DIFFERENT than the normal versions. They both grant XP if leveled. The only difference is that the former is weaker and you should just ditch them after you're done leveling them.
As for why it's cheap: It literally is. It costs what, 25K to buy from the market directly.