Should I report people with 0% damage dealt?

[Silverbird]

Does DE even do anything about it? or would it be a waste of time...
Had someone afk the gift of lotus alert, 9 minute excavation. 0% damage dealt, 1 kill, 9 pickups.

[dEAdOnE77]

no need to report, they will automaticly get no reward due to inactivity..

[Johnnyfive401]

Walrus-Sama eredeti hozzászólása:

If I recall the enemies in that alert are lvl 5. Reporting someone for not killing harmless enemies on a easy mission for a Potato... that's some next level Elitism right there.

If they did it multiple times in a row in multiple missions then sure, but wanting to Report a guy after one easy mission seems a bit excessive.

If they did here they surely did it elsewhere. There is no way to follow the person to verify so you report and if support sees a trend then thats your proof. You can't enable this kind of behavior. I usually try to find out what the persons issue is and go from there. If they dont respond, respond with insults or the I dont care attitude, or dont start contributing I take that as they just dont care about the game or their account. Why are you there if you don't care or want to play the actual game.

[C.C. 折オリ枝 の 夫]

It all depends on both the team and the person.

When I was new and I would meet and Ember in my missions, I would simply afk because I knew from the get go I couldn't do jack, so sit around, pick something up if it was interesting, try to shoot something and just that, as there's no way I would get a kill anyway.

When a clan mate asked me to help him with a mission he just couldn't progress and I was in a hurry, although I don't like cheesing stuff, I took out a cheese loadout and finished the mission before he could even do jack (that was before Exterminate missions would always spawn enemies, there were only as many enemies as the mission asked you to kill), so what was I about to tell him? "Reproted fah nah damagu" when I was well aware that the gear I took would make it impossible for him to do anything unless I let him.

My clan mates know I don't cheese stuff unless I'm in a hurry but I need to get the mission done, or it's the Hyenas/Kela in sortie, and more importantly, I know to never cheese when I go in lower level missions with public, regardless of reason, because hey, there's 1-3 other players who maybe want some fun as well, noone gives me the right to take it away.

So who's to say that YOU or another one in the party other than the guy didn't took such a loadout, as it's actually very common for high MR people to join low level missions with cheese gear because "I only care about the reward, so I want it done as fast and as easily as possible", so if that guy you call out for "afk" saw 1-3 guys with cheese gear, knowing that he took low level gear (you never said his MR) he won't get anything, he just waited for the reward, and that's not on him, it's on the guys who just care about the reward and not about if the others from the team can/can't do anything.

If some entitled snowflakes feel like they need to cheese low level missions, then they should also not care if their team does nothing.

"BuT iF hE dId It OnCe hE wIlL dO iT mOrE" - same argument, you can never know if he was forced to just afk because of his team mates or an irl issue or if he was actually a legit afker.

"BuT aT tHaT lEvEl EvEn An UnMoDdEd WeApOn CaN kIlL" - yea, which means cheese tactis also kill even faster, sometimes before the others can even have a chance to see an enemy.

[Loris Hohenger]

Silverbird eredeti hozzászólása:

Walrus-Sama eredeti hozzászólása:

If I recall the enemies in that alert are lvl 5. Reporting someone for not killing harmless enemies on a easy mission for a Potato... that's some next level Elitism right there.

If they did it multiple times in a row in multiple missions then sure, but wanting to Report a guy after one easy mission seems a bit excessive.

I could make the same argument.
The enemies are harmless and level 5, they have literally 250 ehp...How can you NOT kill at least a dozen with a mk1 braton or whatever?
If the game were 'well the enemies aren't hard so I'll just afk' then I would afk 90% of the time, at the level of progression I'm currently at...that doesn't mean I do.
It's not 'elitist' to expect people to play the game instead of you doing all the missions for them, its elitist to say "oh, nothing is a threat yet...still....I guess I'm just going to afk for 10 minutes longer".

Very easily: I get paired with an Ember/ignis player who will gofast the mission and I won't even see a live ennemy from beginning to extraction.

And I think you are perfectly aware uf this, and are putting forward this argument in very bad faith.

[Cylixx]

You were doing a spy mission, someone played Limbo or Loki and did no damage the whole run. They did however, complete the spy puzzle without incidient. Someone reports him.

Doing a sortie, someone gets desynced half way through and is stuck in a part of the mission that doesn't spawn enemies. You've already completed the objective so they decide to stay - no one says anything as the extraction timer is waited out. Someone reports him.

Player is only just keeping up with the rest of the group - mission is so easy that they only manage to keep pace with the group while objective is completed, and all enemies are anhiliated before they can even get a shot in their direction. Someone reports him.

Basicly, anyone who want's this kind of feature - doesn't think about anyone but themselves.

I would suggest the OP reflects on that.

[Konachibi]

I did that mission solo earlier, didn't fire a single shot throughout it's duration, just stood around doing nothing in between carrying power cells to the excavator. My Cataclysm bubble did everything for me, so I was effectively AFKing while an ability did all the work.

Should I report myself?

[Sceles]

0% damage dealt is normal in spy, rescue, and basically any other mode that does not require that you deal damage. Specter kills also do not count as player kills and if it's a low lvl mission you can let specter do all the killing. Equinox's clones also count as specters. I'm not sure if this works the same way for Revenant or Nekros, but I'm pretty sure it does for Nyx's 3 and Loki's Disarm augment.

TL;DR Do not report unless you're absolutely sure that the player has not done anything. The mission result screen can lie.

I personally would also not report anyone for this unless they do it in harder content, like in kuva flood or sorties.

[No_Quarter]

I am up for always report - if you are wrong then nothing will happen. If such person continues in the same manner he/she will get more ereports and will get punished.

then again, DE have made tools for AFK players to leech everywhere and it is not really fine for them to ban people for using those tools, so in the first place DE should figure out how to properly fight against AFK leeching.
2 minute timer on inactivity does nothing if it lets person leech more, it is bad to let players be that irresponsible and let them sit in the rift during the entire sortie survival without really trying to get engaged in a mission.

[BlueBomber]

Frondator eredeti hozzászólása:

I always love the bending-over-backwards white-knighting of afkers. OP just said 9 mins the guy did 0% damage and got 1 kill. And you hear cries of "PERHAPS HE'S A BEGINNER!" "ELITISM!" or "HE GOT LOST ON THE WAY TO GET ICECREAM!" ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Afkers exist and they are more numerous than many would like to admit. At MR1 in 9 mins, if you aren't able to get more than 1 kill, then you should probably go play another game.

True.

[Franss the Coffee Addict]

Walrus-Sama eredeti hozzászólása:

If I recall the enemies in that alert are lvl 5. Reporting someone for not killing harmless enemies on a easy mission for a Potato... that's some next level Elitism right there.

If they did it multiple times in a row in multiple missions then sure, but wanting to Report a guy after one easy mission seems a bit excessive.

or in ESO. ♥♥♥♥ those guys who go into a corner with their rank 0 gear. Not going back to it after getting vandals

[Warthain]

Silverbird eredeti hozzászólása:

Does DE even do anything about it? or would it be a waste of time...
Had someone afk the gift of lotus alert, 9 minute excavation. 0% damage dealt, 1 kill, 9 pickups.

yes you should report, if nothing is done, this kind of behavior will multiply amongst the player base, reaping rewards of other peoples work shouldnt be allowed, and a good temporary ban will make this people think twice before afking during missions again... specially if the ban the second time around, becomes definite or a lot longer...

[Wahnwitzig]

There are missions where it's not necessary to kill anyone. Like when you play Limbo in Mobile Defense against Grineer or Infected for example.

[Warthain]

куƶєє 💕 eredeti hozzászólása:

There are missions where it's not necessary to kill anyone. Like when you play Limbo in Mobile Defense against Grineer or Infected for example.

even if you arent required to kill anyone i doubt youll stand there the whole mission doing nothing without scoring kills.... stats will always reflect a active player no matter how little he does...

[Konachibi]

Warthain eredeti hozzászólása:

even if you arent required to kill anyone i doubt youll stand there the whole mission doing nothing without scoring kills.... stats will always reflect a active player no matter how little he does...

That depends, look at this for example:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1483154178

I fired no shots, I killed no enemies, and yet I completed the first 5 minutes of a survival mission. The end of mission stats are not a good way of judging the actions and activity of a player. A person could have 75% damage dealt, but have only killed 10 enemies compared to another who has 25% damage dealt but has killed 100 enemies, depending on what weapons they were both using.

The most common thing I see is someone loading in to a mission as Frost, dropping snowglobes on the objectives then just standing around scratching their ass. While it's annoying that they are AFKing and leaving the killing to everyone else, they have likewise contributed to the success of the mission and made it easier to achieve victory, so then that bodes the question. Would you prefer a Frost that AFKs after he makes the mission easy-mode for everyone, or would you prefer a Loki that runs around with no health mods on and has to be revived every few seconds when he gets knocked down if a Moa so much as looks at him funny? Where do you draw the line on what is or isn't an acceptable contribution to the team?

[Bowbie]

Silverbird eredeti hozzászólása:

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should, no, can, yes.

I personnally don't really bother with leechers. I can solo everything, if i run in public i just need people to spawn more mobs (to get more affinity/focus) and i don't really care. That being said, if I spot them right at the beginning, i just leave.