Soma Prime vs Boltor Prime? Recommended assault rifles for end-game as M7?

[Mosh]

Hello as the title suggests, I'm curious as to what assault rifle I should be trying to invest into leveling, Boltor Prime or Soma Prime. I have both but due to how long it takes to level weapons, I want to know which one would be better suited for end-game. I took a long break once plains hit and I'm trying to re-learn the game, so I'm curious if these two weapons are no longer good and if another weapon would better take it's place, if so what are some suggestions? Currently I'm an excal main going for umbra and love assault rifles, but may be interested in a shotgun build if it's a better option for my situation. Off topic, I haven't done much plains yet, what are some of the promising rewards? Thank you :D

[Xazur]

Both are decent, but they aren't meant for end game since their damage isn't that high. Soma has high crit chance, fast fire rate and lots of ammo, so its good for squishy enemies with little armor. Boltor prime is scales better because it's a status weapon, has higher base damage and such, but it has less ammo, and has projectile travel. Get both, but i'd say use Boltor prime, but eventually you will out grow these weapons because enemies will scale higher and armor will become so high that you need armor shred(corrsive status) or weapons that deal more damage to mitigate the damage reduction from armor.

[Nihil]

And don't worry with leveling weapons taking long. They don't

If you want to level a weapon, e.g. a boltor prime from unranked to 30, just empty one of your other weapons slots (melee or secoundary) and pick a decent weapn you can use in rough situations.
If you are doing mission in public games on a level you can do with that gun, and if an other person is killing an enemy, as less weapons you have equipped, as more XP will b distributed for that weapon from the kill of the other player.

But if you have a friend with a good build, ask that person to go into a survival mission with you, bring only that one weapon with you and let him kill everything what you can't (but you shouldn't use anything other than the weapon you want to level)


I have a Boltor prime and it's a very good status weapon.

[Mosh]

Originally posted by Xazur:

Both are decent, but they aren't meant for end game since their damage isn't that high. Soma has high crit chance, fast fire rate and lots of ammo, so its good for squishy enemies with little armor. Boltor prime is scales better because it's a status weapon, has higher base damage and such, but it has less ammo, and has projectile travel. Get both, but i'd say use Boltor prime, but eventually you will out grow these weapons because enemies will scale higher and armor will become so high that you need armor shred(corrsive status) or weapons that deal more damage to mitigate the damage reduction from armor.

What would be a weapon you would suggest getting if I like AR's at mastery level 7? Or if AR's are not good at this mastery level, what shotguns,etc?

[Mosh]

Originally posted by Nihilus:

And don't worry with leveling weapons taking long. They don't

If you want to level a weapon, e.g. a boltor prime from unranked to 30, just empty one of your other weapons slots (melee or secoundary) and pick a decent weapn you can use in rough situations.
If you are doing mission in public games on a level you can do with that gun, and if an other person is killing an enemy, as less weapons you have equipped, as more XP will b distributed for that weapon from the kill of the other player.

But if you have a friend with a good build, ask that person to go into a survival mission with you, bring only that one weapon with you and let him kill everything what you can't (but you shouldn't use anything other than the weapon you want to level)


I have a Boltor prime and it's a very good status weapon.

I generally meant forma leveling on weapons that takes a long time in order for the weapon to "become good" but anyways, if boltor prime isn't a good weapon end-game, what would you recommend?

[Xazur]

https://steamcommunity.com/app/230410/guides/?browsefilter=trend&requiredtags[]=Weapons&requiredtags[]=English#scrollTop=1500

Boltor prime is a good weapon, just not meant for end game. Also end game is more like MR 15+. You are still MR7 that's still early game. Early game is like MR 1-12, MR 13-20 is mid game, MR 21-25 is end game. This is just an average since it depends on what content you unlocked via quests. MR is based on gear you have maxed, while it is true you can just stick to getting the stuff you want and skipping others.

[nssBoB]

I am hapilly using boltor prime and telos boltor on all content in the game (except eidolons for obvious reqsons) no issues with any enemies i encountered so far

[[R] Nerva]

I've been able to use Boltor Prime pretty well into endgame, at least against Grineer. Its status chance and fire rate are high enough to make Corrosive builds very viable, and its native puncture damage type is useful against Grineer until you can remove the armor. Modded for Electric or Viral, it also works decently well against Corpus, since the puncture damage is excellent against Corpus robots. It's a capable nullifier-popper due to its fire rate.

Soma Prime... maybe it's because I don't yet have Argon Scope, but I've never been able to make it work past level 50 enemies. Its base damage is just too piddly, even with all the crit and crit damage I can manage, and its low status chance means it gets stuffed by armor unless I run Hunter Munitions, which doesn't work great because of the Soma Prime's low damage. Low damage per shot = weak slash procs when Hunter Munitions works.

If I want an assault rifle, I typically run Boltor Prime, but generally I opt for shotguns. Vaykor Hek and Tigris Prime are perennial favorites, but I have to give props to the Kohm for combining the best elements of the Gorgon and the Boar into one weapon. Kohm's my favorite weapon to run on Nekros Prime due to its high status chance, rapid fire rate, and slash-focused damage layout. Bit of an ammo-hog though.

As far as the Plains go, the most important things to get from the Plains are unlocking the Quills so that you can start seriously working on your Focus trees, getting Eidolon Shards so that you can unlock waybound focus abilities to improve your Operator, and getting lenses from bounties so that you can actually gain focus in the first place.

[GrandRiser]

Soma Prime is recommended in almost every topic I see and I stil use it and consider it my ultinmate weapon (so far).

[Nihil]

Originally posted by Mosh:

Originally posted by Nihilus:

And don't worry with leveling weapons taking long. They don't

If you want to level a weapon, e.g. a boltor prime from unranked to 30, just empty one of your other weapons slots (melee or secoundary) and pick a decent weapn you can use in rough situations.
If you are doing mission in public games on a level you can do with that gun, and if an other person is killing an enemy, as less weapons you have equipped, as more XP will b distributed for that weapon from the kill of the other player.

But if you have a friend with a good build, ask that person to go into a survival mission with you, bring only that one weapon with you and let him kill everything what you can't (but you shouldn't use anything other than the weapon you want to level)


I have a Boltor prime and it's a very good status weapon.

I generally meant forma leveling on weapons that takes a long time in order for the weapon to "become good" but anyways, if boltor prime isn't a good weapon end-game, what would you recommend?

Ah ok. fair enough :)

[Mhblis]

For every mission currently in the game both of those are fine. The only place you might hit a snag is Sortie 3.

It's actually about how you mod them that's going to matter.

[SandScorpion]

Originally posted by Xazur:

Both are decent, but they aren't meant for end game since their damage isn't that high. Soma has high crit chance, fast fire rate and lots of ammo, so its good for squishy enemies with little armor.

If you add Hunter Munitions to Soma Prime it scales pretty well into end game.

[Myrrdinn]

Originally posted by Xazur:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/230410/guides/?browsefilter=trend&requiredtags[]=Weapons&requiredtags[]=English#scrollTop=1500

Boltor prime is a good weapon, just not meant for end game. Also end game is more like MR 15+. You are still MR7 that's still early game. Early game is like MR 1-12, MR 13-20 is mid game, MR 21-25 is end game. This is just an average since it depends on what content you unlocked via quests. MR is based on gear you have maxed, while it is true you can just stick to getting the stuff you want and skipping others.

These MR ratings your posting are utter crap lol. There isnt a single solitary thing past MR 15 other then maybe 1 or 2 good rivens that would keep you out of end game stuff. Im MR14 and doing tridolon/sortie/ESO daily not really sure what the heck your calling end game but you clearly dont need anything higher then 15 to reach it and can even be done before that.

[rolypoly]

I would take Soma. Such a large ammo capacity, and no bullet travel. That bullet travel and the slight drop on Boltor is a big offput for myself. Try it with the regular boltor and see how it feels to you.

[Mosh]

Originally posted by Fan Or Death:

I would take Soma. Such a large ammo capacity, and no bullet travel. That bullet travel and the slight drop on Boltor is a big offput for myself. Try it with the regular boltor and see how it feels to you.

I've watched a video tutorial and the person has mentioned that the Soma's huge weakness is in games longer than 25-30 minutes, the gun will run out of ammo really fast. Can you confirm this point and if so, how do you resolve it? Also thanks guys for all of the responses :D

[No_Quarter]

Originally posted by Mosh:

Originally posted by Fan Or Death:

I would take Soma. Such a large ammo capacity, and no bullet travel. That bullet travel and the slight drop on Boltor is a big offput for myself. Try it with the regular boltor and see how it feels to you.

I've watched a video tutorial and the person has mentioned that the Soma's huge weakness is in games longer than 25-30 minutes, the gun will run out of ammo really fast. Can you confirm this point and if so, how do you resolve it? Also thanks guys for all of the responses :D

Carrier (prime) and you never run out of ammo.. Unless you play Twin grakatas, as there Ammo-Econ is a dumpster fire that will suck your Carrier dry and chew it's bones.

Braton Prime is very good too, people think that base DPS is everything.... Braton Prime deals A LOT of slash procs that increase that DPS significantly as slash stacks. Pair it with Viral or Corrosive and you will melt any high level targets... status is the way to go, like on Soma Prime you wanna put in Hunter Munitions to make it sing in high level combat (which also helps ammo-econ as you spend less per target

Both weapons are well worth building, maybe Soma Prime first and then Braton Prime.