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Belaray 2019 年 11 月 28 日 下午 9:14
Game of the year award
I would like to nominate Warframe, through their ups and downs they still manage to keep the game interesting one way or another. Unfortunately, I cannot nominate this game because it isn't an option. I think once Empyrian is released others might agree.
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Totally Innocent Chatbot 2019 年 11 月 29 日 下午 5:30 
Another worthless rigged "awards" event going to whoever pays the most, nobody should give a flying rip about such nonsense.
BossGalaga 2019 年 11 月 29 日 下午 6:04 
Another worthless rigged "awards" event going to whoever pays the most, nobody should give a flying rip about such nonsense.

Provide your proof that the awards are rigged.
Neithan 2019 年 11 月 29 日 下午 6:05 
Imho, "Labour of Love" does not fit for a game just because it is still developed and adds some new grindable content now and then, especially if the game is generating a sh*tload of money due to large playerbase, but should more reflect how a dev keeps adding and improving to a game, generating new and improved content, even if the game is NOT in a position where it does run all by itself and new content is just a means to stop veteran players from getting bored.

I mean, I really like WF, and think that it is one of the best F2P games available, but neither is it GOTY material (especially as the new vote rules restrict GOTY to recent releases), nor does it qualify for "Labour of Love" as the development and maintance of the game is barly a question of "supporting your beloved game" rather then "keep the money-printer running".

As someone already mentioned, "Labour of Love" is more suited for some indie dev supporting and adding to their game, come what may.
最後修改者:Neithan; 2019 年 11 月 29 日 下午 6:06
Light 2019 年 11 月 29 日 下午 6:28 
引用自 Neithan
Imho, "Labour of Love" does not fit for a game just because it is still developed and adds some new grindable content now and then, especially if the game is generating a sh*tload of money due to large playerbase, but should more reflect how a dev keeps adding and improving to a game, generating new and improved content, even if the game is NOT in a position where it does run all by itself and new content is just a means to stop veteran players from getting bored.

I mean, I really like WF, and think that it is one of the best F2P games available, but neither is it GOTY material (especially as the new vote rules restrict GOTY to recent releases), nor does it qualify for "Labour of Love" as the development and maintance of the game is barly a question of "supporting your beloved game" rather then "keep the money-printer running".

As someone already mentioned, "Labour of Love" is more suited for some indie dev supporting and adding to their game, come what may.

That's exactly why i gave the Labour of Love to Oriental Empires and not to Warframe.
Their Job in this game is good, but not as good (with deep content) as some Indie games out there.
最後修改者:Light; 2019 年 11 月 29 日 下午 6:57
Belaray 2019 年 11 月 29 日 下午 6:38 
Those complaining that its grindy, please tell me one MMO that ISN'T grindy ffs
Light 2019 年 11 月 29 日 下午 6:52 
引用自 RayLee92
Those complaining that its grindy, please tell me one MMO that ISN'T grindy ffs

This is not the point. The point is that a game need to have more content than fillers to be considered Game of the Year or Labour of Love.

Like i said, Labour of Love => Indie developers that are bringing content to their games for years now - most of the time, programing alone or with a team of students. (Do you know how much work and time is needed to creat a game and a engine from zero? Warframe engine is very good too! Point to them. But...)

Game of the Year is something higher => Story, gameplay, graphics, meaning, etc

Warframe is good. But it lacks meaning and organization in some aspects, and even though they're working in this game for years now, they're not a small company anymore. They can't compete anymore with small companies that are doing greater job with their Indie games. That's not their category anymore.
最後修改者:Light; 2019 年 11 月 29 日 下午 6:55
Totally Innocent Chatbot 2019 年 11 月 29 日 下午 6:53 
引用自 BossGalaga
Another worthless rigged "awards" event going to whoever pays the most, nobody should give a flying rip about such nonsense.

Provide your proof that the awards are rigged.
GTA won an award last year.
BossGalaga 2019 年 11 月 29 日 下午 6:54 
引用自 BossGalaga

Provide your proof that the awards are rigged.

GTA won an award last year.

Gasp, one of the most popular and top played games on Steam was voted for an award by the players? How exactly is that "proof" that the awards are rigged kiddo?
Light 2019 年 11 月 29 日 下午 6:57 
引用自 BossGalaga

GTA won an award last year.

Gasp, one of the most popular and top played games on Steam was voted for an award by the players? How exactly is that "proof" that the awards are rigged kiddo?

That's his point. By saying GTA is a top played game in Steam - means that lots of players will vote in GTA, thus, GTA will win.

Same with what someone said about Destiny 2.
最後修改者:Light; 2019 年 11 月 29 日 下午 6:58
Totally Innocent Chatbot 2019 年 11 月 29 日 下午 7:02 
引用自 BossGalaga

GTA won an award last year.

Gasp, one of the most popular and top played games on Steam was voted for an award by the players? How exactly is that "proof" that the awards are rigged kiddo?
I realize I was far too vague in my previous post. GTA won "Labor of Love", of all things, in spite of the general consensus seeming to be that most of the game's updates across the past couple years have been nothing more than Rockstar trying to milk the game as much as possible towards the end of its development cycle.
SolarSabotage 2019 年 11 月 29 日 下午 7:12 
引用自 Sceles
Steam awards are a joke, people have no taste or brain and just vote for whatever they're currently playing. Destiny 2 will likely get an award just because it's the biggest F2P title on Steam atm and recent. Does it deserve it... no. Warframe deserves one a hundred times more than Destiny 2 does, but not for anything they've done this year so I'm not voting.
The only award Destiny 2 should get is the Visual Style one.

Say what you want about the gameplay, but in terms of looks that's something Bungie does incredibly well.
BossGalaga 2019 年 11 月 29 日 下午 7:17 
引用自 D.Keys
引用自 BossGalaga

Gasp, one of the most popular and top played games on Steam was voted for an award by the players? How exactly is that "proof" that the awards are rigged kiddo?

That's his point. By saying GTA is a top played game in Steam - means that lots of players will vote in GTA, thus, GTA will win.

Same with what someone said about Destiny 2.

When multiple people enjoy something, it becomes popular. You're saying that if people enjoy a game on Steam and it becomes popular that it's unfair if it receives an award. That's what you call "rigged." Riiiiight...so uhh...do you want the game with the least amount of votes to win? Do you want someone to decide which game should really win, as long as it's the game that you want to win? Because, it seems like those are things that would qualify as rigged.

引用自 BossGalaga

Gasp, one of the most popular and top played games on Steam was voted for an award by the players? How exactly is that "proof" that the awards are rigged kiddo?

I realize I was far too vague in my previous post. GTA won "Labor of Love", of all things, in spite of the general consensus seeming to be that most of the game's updates across the past couple years have been nothing more than Rockstar trying to milk the game as much as possible towards the end of its development cycle.

What general consensus are you referring to? You complaining on the forums? Is that a "general consensus?" Please provide your statistical data for this "general consensus" that you claim. It was reported earlier this year that GTA V has sold nearly 110 million copies, so surely you must have some hard data representative of the roughly 110 million players/owners. Please provide it.
Angoril 2019 年 11 月 29 日 下午 7:17 
Steam awards are a joke lol. It's quite rare that a deserving game will win any of them. It's just a matter of what's more popular than anything else. That said, I would never vote for Warframe as labour of love or any other game that relies on microtransactions to constantly make money. That's just business, not dedication. Games like Terraria, Minecraft, Stardew Valley and many more are what true labour of love is.
Light 2019 年 11 月 29 日 下午 7:34 
引用自 BossGalaga
引用自 D.Keys

That's his point. By saying GTA is a top played game in Steam - means that lots of players will vote in GTA, thus, GTA will win.

Same with what someone said about Destiny 2.

When multiple people enjoy something, it becomes popular. You're saying that if people enjoy a game on Steam and it becomes popular that it's unfair if it receives an award. That's what you call "rigged." Riiiiight...so uhh...do you want the game with the least amount of votes to win? Do you want someone to decide which game should really win, as long as it's the game that you want to win? Because, it seems like those are things that would qualify as rigged.

I didn't said that my friend. You are implying a lot of things that i never said, like If i were defending those ideas blindly. What?

The thing is that on a market and a award to be fair enough, all games would need to have equal propaganda. This is impossible though, because we know who's in charge of the industry.

Why do you think Death Stranding is probably going to win the Game of the Year award?
This is a industry, and like all indutries, propaganda and marketing rules leads the way.
It doesn't mean, though, that the public will be happy with the decisions, but the mass is easily controlled by what they say it's or it's not true.

引用自 Angoril
Steam awards are a joke lol. It's quite rare that a deserving game will win any of them. It's just a matter of what's more popular than anything else. That said, I would never vote for Warframe as labour of love or any other game that relies on microtransactions to constantly make money. That's just business, not dedication. Games like Terraria, Minecraft, Stardew Valley and many more are what true labour of love is.

^- This.
最後修改者:Light; 2019 年 11 月 29 日 下午 7:45
BossGalaga 2019 年 11 月 29 日 下午 7:49 
引用自 D.Keys
I didn't said that my friend. You are implying a lot of things that i never said, like If i were defending those ideas blindly. What?

Okay, let's reevaluate then. In response to chatbot's claims about the voting being rigged and GTA winning labor of love as proof of that somehow, you said his point was "By saying GTA is a top played game in Steam - means that lots of players will vote in GTA, thus, GTA will win."

So you appear to be saying that if players like a game, making it popular, that somehow means the voting is rigged and unfair. Maybe you could clarify what you meant there.
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