What do you use Titania for?

[enderphilia]

Does Titania have any place where she shines? Other than her 4 being useful for getting out of bugged places, I don't think I've ever felt like she was viable for any mission.

[JebKerman]

İlk olarak I:P マスカレーナ tarafından gönderildi:

Although she doesn't have innate healing, the combination of Aviator, Adaptation, Razorwing, Tribute: Dust and Tribute: Thorns give her an EHP of similar, if not higher to Inaros.

I don't honestly believe you, especially since I'd assume the heavy lifting in the calculation you're using to determine that is being done by Adaptation, which requires you to take hits, and keep taking hits to maintain.

For Inaros, that's easy, he's got a big health pool, isn't trying to not be hit, and can get chunks of it back in a '1' and an 'E' or even just chow down on a guy to build Adaptation while invulnerable. Meanwhile Titania is actively trying to not be hit using distractions and ... whatever dust actually does, so the the shots that do land, tend to land hard.

EDIT:
For reference, I picked out that particular part since that's the only bit I have a gripe with. Warframe is kind of a game where pretty much every frame can do everything. Since most can perform 3-4 of Damage, Survivability, Crowd Control, and Buff/Debuff/Utility functions, all to varying degrees and in different ways. And Titania does do things better than people tend to give her credit for.

[Hangman]

İlk olarak Ken Renzo tarafından gönderildi:

Does Titania have any place where she shines? Other than her 4 being useful for getting out of bugged places, I don't think I've ever felt like she was viable for any mission.

dusting on warframe list

[C.C. 折オリ枝 の 夫]

İlk olarak JebKerman tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak I:P マスカレーナ tarafından gönderildi:

Although she doesn't have innate healing, the combination of Aviator, Adaptation, Razorwing, Tribute: Dust and Tribute: Thorns give her an EHP of similar, if not higher to Inaros.

I don't honestly believe you, especially since I'd assume the heavy lifting in the calculation you're using to determine that is being done by Adaptation, which requires you to take hits, and keep taking hits to maintain.

For Inaros, that's easy, he's got a big health pool, isn't trying to not be hit, and can get chunks of it back in a '1' and an 'E' or even just chow down on a guy to build Adaptation while invulnerable. Meanwhile Titania is actively trying to not be hit using distractions and ... whatever dust actually does, so the the shots that do land, tend to land hard.

EDIT:
For reference, I picked out that particular part since that's the only bit I have a gripe with. Warframe is kind of a game where pretty much every frame can do everything. Since most can perform 3-4 of Damage, Survivability, Crowd Control, and Buff/Debuff/Utility functions, all to varying degrees and in different ways. And Titania does do things better than people tend to give her credit for.

Don't you try to teach me how to play with my bae.... I mean fae.

Yes, Adaptation is a core part of the build but not what makes the build work. It's actually how the other things work together that make Adaptation a viable mod in her.

You see, Tribute: Thorns coupled with Aviator (and Agility Drift for those who use it) gives her a 55% damage reduction (or around 62% with AD) before anything else, so couple that with the 50% Evasion from Razorwing and you got a really good survivability, but notice how I didn't mention something?

Tribute: Dust.

The accuracy loss from that one makes her have around a 70% evasion against almost every enemy, with a big accent on "almost". Certain weapons, such as those used by Lancers (both corrupted and base) and certain Ospreys have so piss poor accuracy that Dust doesn't affect them, but those weapons deal next to no damage even at high levels. Since Dust can't make them miss more than they already do, it's up to Razorwing's coin toss if they hit or not. Those stray shots will hit consistently for barely any damage due the already low damage and the 55% reduction from Thorns and Aviator, but since they hit consistently, they stack Adaptation for free.

Its that interaction between Dust and those weapons that make the build work.

I do need to mention that my Titania has more HP to spare than others because of the Umbra Forma that allows me to slot in 2 Umbra mods on a good build.

[Spartykins]

yeeting the bosses during plauge star

[ElBarto56]

I use her evertyime for sorties...i always end up making the most damage with 0% damage taken with her 4 on all the time

[Yuki]

İlk olarak ^3Tinkles tarafından gönderildi:

Hemo\Leph killing and Plains bounties with razorwing augment. Otherwise, others can do the job better or more efficiently. @ yuki, how is she good at Index if you lose energy and health per point you hold? King of index is revenant, can hold well over the recommended with an easy reset on his invincibility, even beating rhino.

Point is she regains it faster than she can loose it and has the by far highest killspeed. AND soaks up all chips. Revenant can go home with a Titania in the team. Chances are he wont even see an enemy.

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And I can't believe how wrong many of you actually are, then again, metaslaving is know to make people blind to anything that's not the meta.

Titania is one of strongest frames when it comes both to damage, tank, cc, anti-status and more cc.
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But as many stated, you need to aim, and people hate to aim or put any effort,

^This. Well, except for the CC maybe. Thats pretty weak unless you are among those combining "utility" and "cc" in one group and simply call it CC.

[Ok Thalmor]

I have to say titania is much better than people let her out to be, being put into an ambulas sortie we took so long to do it but it was inaros and I that didn't die, Mesa p giving me ♥♥♥♥ for not being a meta ho when my titania out dpsed them, and not even a fully fleshed out build either, I'll go into more detail if I can get on later.

[8faiNt ı♣ı]

İlk olarak Ok Thalmor tarafından gönderildi:

I have to say titania is much better than people let her out to be, being put into an ambulas sortie we took so long to do it but it was inaros and I that didn't die, Mesa p giving me ♥♥♥♥ for not being a meta ho when my titania out dpsed them, and not even a fully fleshed out build either, I'll go into more detail if I can get on later.

Mesa is a safe bet. She is not just there to kill the ambulas. she supposedly kills the whole map from enemies. Titania cant do that. Stop prasing for nothing.

Almost any situation titania is in can be completed with Chroma. she doesnt even have a place in the PoE event. Chroma with Pyrana can outmatch her. She literally shines nowhere.
People can be biased, because its their fav. frame... I can understand that. But dont ignore the facts.

Everything depends if you know how to play the game.

[Demawil]

getting mastery xp, now its just sitting there, doing nothing

[C.C. 折オリ枝 の 夫]

İlk olarak Yuki tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak I:P マスカレーナ tarafından gönderildi:

And I can't believe how wrong many of you actually are, then again, metaslaving is know to make people blind to anything that's not the meta.

Titania is one of strongest frames when it comes both to damage, tank, cc, anti-status and more cc.
(...)
But as many stated, you need to aim, and people hate to aim or put any effort,

^This. Well, except for the CC maybe. Thats pretty weak unless you are among those combining "utility" and "cc" in one group and simply call it CC.

What I am referring to is that she has multiple ways to CC people:
- Tribute: Entangle: ok, this is the meh-est type of meh, but still there
- Razorwing Drones: as stated in my comment to Jeb, the drones have the highest aggro rating, so any enemy that has one in it's shooting range is forced to shoot it and will ignore any other threat. Kinda sad we can't replenish them without recasting the ability tho.
- Lantern: ok, not the best when it comes to the other enemies, but the CC it offers for one important target can be really nice, and hey, if a random enemy or two stop shooting you because of it, bonus points
- Spellbind: now this, this is gorgeous. Not only does it make enemies fly around, but it also extends to forcing them to drop their weapons, so even after the ability ends, they can't just attack you again, they first have to go and get their weapons back.

There's a good amount of both soft CC and hard CC, and while true, it's not that impressive when compared to something like Rhino's sumo move, coupled with everything else she has, it's pretty strong.

[^3Tinkles]

İlk olarak Yuki tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak ^3Tinkles tarafından gönderildi:

Hemo\Leph killing and Plains bounties with razorwing augment. Otherwise, others can do the job better or more efficiently. @ yuki, how is she good at Index if you lose energy and health per point you hold? King of index is revenant, can hold well over the recommended with an easy reset on his invincibility, even beating rhino.

Point is she regains it faster than she can loose it and has the by far highest killspeed. AND soaks up all chips. Revenant can go home with a Titania in the team. Chances are he wont even see an enemy.

Does that include picking up and holding 15-20 at a time? I'm not talking about using her in a team, I'm talking 100% solo. Revenant, built around his #2 is completely invincible and can reset his invincibility for 25 energy. Index is obviously easier if you have those dedicated to killing (titania being an obvious) and an energy giver (trinity) but I'm speaking from a solo only Point of View.

So, can titania, hold 15-20 crystals, and still be functional, all 100% solo?
EditL If not, then my point still stands.

[hellatze]

Titania hold 15 index point are impossible.

It drain energy that negates all of her skill.

[^3Tinkles]

İlk olarak hellatze tarafından gönderildi:

Titania hold 15 index point are impossible.

It drain energy that negates all of her skill.

Yeah, just tested it, she's fine if you're under 10 and are using arcane energize. Even with energize though, she cannot sustain above 11 for more than 20 seconds (at full energy w/ primed flow). So, if you really like her and are solo and turn in every ~10, then you'll be fine. If you want to turn in at the recommended 15-20, then it's .. possible, but more work than other frames (revenant, rhino).

In a team though, if she doesn't need to pick up, easily top 3, alongside mesa/nyx (armor strip). Otherwise, I'd still go with revenant solo. Still a fun frame to play, just wish her butterflies scaled/respawned as you got kills, so you don't need to reset her 4. Otherwise, she's a fun/solid frame.

[Ok Thalmor]

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İlk olarak Ok Thalmor tarafından gönderildi:

I have to say titania is much better than people let her out to be, being put into an ambulas sortie we took so long to do it but it was inaros and I that didn't die, Mesa p giving me ♥♥♥♥ for not being a meta ho when my titania out dpsed them, and not even a fully fleshed out build either, I'll go into more detail if I can get on later.

Mesa is a safe bet. She is not just there to kill the ambulas. she supposedly kills the whole map from enemies. Titania cant do that. Stop prasing for nothing.

Almost any situation titania is in can be completed with Chroma. she doesnt even have a place in the PoE event. Chroma with Pyrana can outmatch her. She literally shines nowhere.
People can be biased, because its their fav. frame... I can understand that. But dont ignore the facts.

Everything depends if you know how to play the game.

You have a valid point, I can only say ditto to the plague star event and index being true from my experience, she is in no way built for things like eidolons or like energy drain sorties she just doesn't compare from my experience my go to for this is usually nezha just to keep myself and anyone that needs to be alive. I cant provide an opinion for Mesa or meta ones because I have not claimed them because I don't feel I'm suited for the playstyle chroma is not good in my hands because I don't use properly nezha is quite a bit better for me though as I have had some practice as him.