Ivara Prime problem

[coldcoffee]

Ok I know it's RNG and all that but honestly I'm starting to suspect there is a psychic link between the relic system and my mind ;)

It started with Saryn Prime and trying to get her rare drop which I went through 40-45 Radiant Relics and still nothing I ended up buying the damn thing for plat, next it was just generally trying to get what I wanted from a relic.

I've gone through at least 40 relics now trying to get Ivara Prime parts and not even the rare just common and uncommon and not a single Ivara drop from them, if anyone wants one of the 30+ Paris Prime parts I have give me a call :D

I know it's RNG and they'd prefer you pay for the complete Prime sets from them but honestly £50+ for one Prime is more than I pay for a whole game so it's not gonna happen from me and the whole system seems to be designed to frustrate and even more so with how many Primes are out and the luck of the draw getting the Relic and then the actual part you want and then farming for void traces which can be as low as 9 dropping even in an Axi relic run.

There must be a better way to do Prime parts than the extreme lottery that Relics are, I think if I get a complete relic set in less than 50 relics I'll buy a lottery ticket that day because my luck will be in for sure.

Anyway rant over but does anyone else find it frustrating at times ?

[Maverick Mullah]

Lmfao, just buy a set for 120P, if you've gone thru 40-50 rads you should have more than enough plat from other uncommon to rare drops mate.

[Lee]

farm plat, buy ivara off the market (currently 140 plat)

[Miro Laaksonen]

You can just trade for all or some of the parts with other players. Whole Ivara Prime set is apparently 130 platinum at the moment and that's relatively fast to farm/trade for, or if you would buy that much it's probably like £5.

[No_Quarter]

Forum post #8770978568960980986786 of this year about how RNG can be RNG.

Also, there are no other ways than farming relics and opening them and buying Ivara Prime directly trough prime access - no other way of obtaining Ivara Prime.

Sarcasm off, now, if you spend 50 relics you are doing something wrong, using Radhsare helps the odds and ultimately if it is time per item obtained then when RNG strikes as it always will for few items then what you do is go on your favorite platinum farming spot and you get your self platinum to buy the part.

Relics are not extreme lotterly, Radshare has 10% chance of a rare item which is barely a lottery, you just got unlucky which odds state will happen for few parts while most parts will be obtained relatively fast.

It is not luck, it's math, stats. Majority of drops will land in those 10% and you will get rare item in about 10 relics, some you will get with 1 relic, some you won't get after 50. Open enough relics and that happens to everyone because that is how statistics work.

it is up to you to use game's systems to make it easier on you, feel like DE implemented way more than enough features to skip times when RNG just does not go in your favor.

Here's another example of same RNG thing, farming regular warframes. Most people got majority of warframes with ease in couple of runs. And most people has 2-3 warframes that took a mighty while to obtain. Stats, and statistically those warframes are mostly Equinox, Khora, Harrow and Ivara because of such high number of runs required to get them.
What 99% people get in 40 runs, remaining 1% of people will get maybe in over 80 runs.

[GunsForBucks]

Let's be real here.

True RNG is not possible from a computer... it is calculated.
The game knows what you have and don't have... it keeps track of that stuff, no mind reading needed.

I often find if I am trying for something specific I don't get it... but if I take a shot at something once in a while if it is being difficult, it comes pretty easy. In other words you have a better chance at something you are not actively trying to farm over and over and over... for all we know the game may punish you with RNG if you play too much in one week or something. It sure feels that way sometimes and with some things ha ha.

Regardless Ivara Prime will be out for about 2 years so there is no real rush. Kind of surprised the price in the market is being reported that high still. It will be sure to drop fairly soon as supply overtakes demand.

[Maverick Mullah]

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Let's be real here.

True RNG is not possible from a computer... it is calculated.
The game knows what you have and don't have... it keeps track of that stuff, no mind reading needed.

I often find if I am trying for something specific I don't get it... but if I take a shot at something once in a while if it is being difficult, it comes pretty easy. In other words you have a better chance at something you are not actively trying to farm over and over and over... for all we know the game may punish you with RNG if you play too much in one week or something. It sure feels that way sometimes and with some things ha ha.

Regardless Ivara Prime will be out for about 2 years so there is no real rush. Kind of surprised the price in the market is being reported that high still. It will be sure to drop fairly soon as supply overtakes demand.

It's cuz of the Intrinsics farming and in general her being a good frame that she still is 120 after this long.

[MR.hyde]

normal people do radshare runs, i had my ivara rare part after 3 runs...

[No_Quarter]

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Let's be real here.

True RNG is not possible from a computer... it is calculated.

Can you elaborate please? Like, how does programming language Warframe uses limit that possibility? How does computer limit that?

It is so shallow to assume such conspiracy theories but that happens when people are not educated. YOU could do the test in warframe, open 1000 relics and write down every single drop by common, uncommon and rare. I can tell you right now that 25 of them will be rare. But it is easier to claim something so silly that it hurts anyone who ever did a line of code.

Random number is possible and easy to make. You tell computer that it has 1000 possible options and it will pick any of them. You make 25 of them to be gold, 175 of them to be silver and 800 of them to be bronze. Link that to relic you picked and boom - absolute RNG possible.

Your claims are out there man. This one almost made me spit my coffee, like, please, you made some good comments, don't do this dumb stuff unless you are trolling.

[Forza Piadina]

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İlk olarak GunsForBucks tarafından gönderildi:

Let's be real here.

True RNG is not possible from a computer... it is calculated.

Can you elaborate please? Like, how does programming language Warframe uses limit that possibility? How does computer limit that?

It is so shallow to assume such conspiracy theories but that happens when people are not educated. YOU could do the test in warframe, open 1000 relics and write down every single drop by common, uncommon and rare. I can tell you right now that 25 of them will be rare. But it is easier to claim something so silly that it hurts anyone who ever did a line of code.

Random number is possible and easy to make. You tell computer that it has 1000 possible options and it will pick any of them. You make 25 of them to be gold, 175 of them to be silver and 800 of them to be bronze. Link that to relic you picked and boom - absolute RNG possible.

Your claims are out there man. This one almost made me spit my coffee, like, please, you made some good comments, don't do this dumb stuff unless you are trolling.

He means the random generator system is not true random but a pseudo random generator but considering this should not be a gambling game, no one cares about that.

[Phoenix]

In my opinion its no good trying to get new primes from relics because of the RnG, so I have another way on getting my hands on the new primes, most of the time just hang around in ESO (Elite Sancuary Onslaught) for about 8 zones, and if it is too hard later just leave and reset. Doing this you should get your hands on some easy radiant relics.

Just follow up by opening them and selling everything you dont need so you have tons of plat and just buy the new primes when they come out or wait a bit and get them for much cheaper as long as they are not in a vault of sorts it shouldnt be more expensive than 150 platinum.

GLHF

[ACEsino]

>farming the Warframe instead of farming plat

[RF951]

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Anyway rant over but does anyone else find it frustrating at times ?

It sounds as if you, like me, play the game single player. Lots of folks frown upon doing that but it's what I do. It has a certain cost for sure in terms of the overall accessibility to game content.

Having said that, I've never had such a difficult time picking up prime parts. I probably ran 25 rad relics to get ivara systems....nothing. Wound up buying the part. Had the same experience with a Zhuge part. Currently going through it again with Baza Prime stock.

At one point during these runs I had ♥♥♥♥♥♥ a forma blueprint six or seven times in a row lol. So yep I found it frustrating. My rant over.

[lagamemnon]

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Anyway rant over but does anyone else find it frustrating at times ?

Yes. Probably everybody. Paying to skip the frustration is like 1/3 of Warframe's business model. (Fashion Frame is the other 2/3.)

Has anyone charted relic drop rates over time?

[The Icecream Snowman]

For me Ivara Prime was probably the least grinding I've ever done. I had to buy regular Ivara, though. In nearly 1500 hours I've only ever had one part. I never got the Khora part from Sanctuary round 8, had to buy her too. I got seven Akarius BPs before Acceltra. I've got five Gauss systems, three chassis, no neuroptics. I once got six Nyx neuroptics in a row. No other drops in between, six of the same drop back to back. There' s a 0.34% chance for that to happen. When I need Pyrol, all I get is Pustrels. More Pustrels than Coprun and Ferrite combined. When I manage to get a group to run a vaulted radshare, we all roll the same part with alarming frequency.

The RNG is not nearly as random as it should be. I blame Kobolds.

[4FCG]

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Has anyone charted relic drop rates over time?

https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Void_Relic
this should be accurate