Quest to build our Orbiters?

[Jonatom]

This is just an idea here, DE should implement the building of the Orbiter from the start, by the Tenno, after having to escape, by going to a relay (instead of just giving them an Orbiter from the start.. remember when we didn't have them? i do), and then from there doing missions IOT gather materials to build theirs (with unskippable times, lots of credits, and nitain extract, argon crystals, the works), this way it will acclimate players to when they have to build their Railjack (which would be like the orbiter just on a much larger scale).

[Vororo]

I don't think players need an extra grind wall that didn't even exist before.

I do think they could give us an explanation on how the hek we got the massive orbiter just for ourselves. Sure at the beginning you salvage a Liset, but then how did that Liset get us the luxury of having a personal space home?

[Ryu the Fox]

No.

[Burstnok]

Escrito originalmente por Varo:

I do think they could give us an explanation on how the hek we got the massive orbiter just for ourselves. Sure at the beginning you salvage a Liset, but then how did that Liset get us the luxury of having a personal space home?

well we 'had' that ship before the Old War already as told by the Lotus during the first beginners quest as she references to it as 'your old ship'

[Pakaku]

The Orbiter is an essential part of the game from the very beginning, so how are you expecting a new player to build massive amounts of resources? This is nothing comparable to Railjack, which is a product for experienced players. I've heard dumb suggestions, but this one is really up there

[Henry of Skalitz]

The orbiter is bigger than the railjack. The cost would be enormous for a new player.

[Ryu the Fox]

Escrito originalmente por Santa Fish:

The orbiter is bigger than the railjack. The cost would be enormous for a new player.

So why can't we transport (and build) the Railjack in the Orbiter?

[Ratt]

Escrito originalmente por Ryu the Fox:

Escrito originalmente por Santa Fish:

The orbiter is bigger than the railjack. The cost would be enormous for a new player.

So why can't we transport (and build) the Railjack in the Orbiter?

It's full of alloy plates and nano spores.

[GunsForBucks]

The orbiter actually has a number of setup quests to install components like the Market Terminal etc.

I wish railjack had that in terms of showing you how things actually work like refining and repairing. Currently it feels like such a mess I don't even want to play it not knowing if I am getting anything or not or how to do things that are basic for the ship operation.

DE isn't exactly known for good in game instruction but setting up the orbiter seems the least of the games worries.

Do you really want to add another level of confusion for new players to decide to quit over?

[Burstnok]

Escrito originalmente por GunsForBucks:

Do you really want to add another level of confusion for new players to decide to quit over?

like you said, we already have some kind of 'beginner-friendly' repair quests for the orbiter after the grineer salvaged most of it's systems before the awakening of the Tenno

[Henry of Skalitz]

Escrito originalmente por Ryu the Fox:

Escrito originalmente por Santa Fish:

The orbiter is bigger than the railjack. The cost would be enormous for a new player.

So why can't we transport (and build) the Railjack in the Orbiter?

We can. If you go to the lower deck and go into to the crossing you can press X to go into railjack

[Totally Innocent Chatbot]

Escrito originalmente por Santa Fish:

Escrito originalmente por Ryu the Fox:

So why can't we transport (and build) the Railjack in the Orbiter?

We can. If you go to the lower deck and go into to the crossing you can press X to go into railjack

He's referring to the need to have a clan Dojo with a built Drydock in order to make the Railjack.

[Jonatom]

To answer a few questions, yes lore, the orbiter is referred to our "old ship" however during the war, we were put into a sleep (all tenno were), so our ship was lost, and it would also give a chance to explain why ordis is fractured and now has a dual personality (so this allows for a few lore opportunities). Also, the orbiter is not larger than the Railjack, its much smaller. It was just introduced in patch 14.0 as our "home/crafting/mission hub" as prior to that we just had this enigmatic area where all that was done from.

Was just a thought, and would also allow for a shoe horn effect for when players had to build the Railjack, as to not have a "shell shock" on cost and other things that went along with it. To me, just feels right, but you know how opinions go. LOL

[Burstnok]

Escrito originalmente por Jonatom:

To answer a few questions, yes lore, the orbiter is referred to our "old ship" however during the war, we were put into a sleep (all tenno were), so our ship was lost, and it would also give a chance to explain why ordis is fractured and now has a dual personality (so this allows for a few lore opportunities).

It wasn't 'lost', it was just abandoned and later found by the grineer that stripped some of its systems which we have to take back during the first quests to repair said 'old ship'.

[SomoneSuspicious]

I also dont think that the RJ is bigger than the orbiter, not even close. If the RJ is a house in space than the Orbiter is one or two manisons glued together and flying through the system. The design for it is even in the game, I think you can use it as an image for decorations. The orbiter DWARFES our liset.
Just because we dont activley use everything of it, doesnt mean it isnt massive af.

[Azure Fang]

Escrito originalmente por Jonatom:

To answer a few questions, yes lore, the orbiter is referred to our "old ship" however during the war, we were put into a sleep (all tenno were), so our ship was lost, and it would also give a chance to explain why ordis is fractured and now has a dual personality (so this allows for a few lore opportunities). Also, the orbiter is not larger than the Railjack, its much smaller. It was just introduced in patch 14.0 as our "home/crafting/mission hub" as prior to that we just had this enigmatic area where all that was done from.

Was just a thought, and would also allow for a shoe horn effect for when players had to build the Railjack, as to not have a "shell shock" on cost and other things that went along with it. To me, just feels right, but you know how opinions go. LOL

You've got your lore a bit wrong. The Tenno were put to sleep before the old war, before the warframes themselves were created. At that time, the Tenno were little more than abominations awating execution. It wasn't until after the old war began that the warframes were created and Ballas came up with the idea to bond them with the Tenno, effectively completing the research for which Margullis was executed. It wasn't until after the Orokin Empire was destroyed that the warframes were placed in stasis, at which point we only "lost" things due to centuries of entropy and salvage by third parties (Vor's Prize begins here).

As to Ordis and his "damage", the prevailing theory is that this is a manifestation of the slow recovery of Ordan Karris's memories, producing a personality schism between Ordis's precepts and Ordan's underlying mind. Much of this may be inferred from the hidden Ordis/Ordan monologues in the original codex entries. Another theory, also from the hidden logs, is that Ordis performed his own memory wipe, but the process was incomplete.

All said, the orbiter is still too small to carry the function as a dry dock, and a mobile dry dock capable of travelling between stellar bodies is a bit outlandish even for technomagical space pirate-ninjas. The current nebulous concept as something we really don't need to worry about is perfectly fine. Should they ever expand its role in the greater game, it should be optional rather than another grind gating core content. Besides, the orbiter is how we carry our landing craft (Liset or what have you) between planets; salvaging and repairing/building a ship of that size after having just emerged from stasis with a mind control worm burrowing into our spine and with the system (allies, work crews, etc.) as a whole unaware of our existence makes exactly zero sense from a story- and gameplay-flow standpoint.