Sarpa + shattering impact on eidolons

[Laura]

Does that still work?
I am seeing people in videos do that. Take away nearly all the armor.

I can see this + dead eye being way more effective than taking 3 corrosive auras if it works out (surprise surprise, if it does work, people wouldn't know).

So, does anyone know? :D

I'm about to go test it anyway.

The idea is take away all the armor and go electric damage (same number + dead eye) vs the robotic armor that remains.

Or... take away like 80% of the armor and still use radiation damage... Still not sure which one I'll pick.

But taking corrosive when you can literally get 3 times that benefit from just a sarpa? nah.

[Anonn 20 16]

since i usualy hunt eidolon solo i used this tactic but if i'm completely honnest i haven't notised any difference.

[Rabanito]

Hi I'm No One původně napsal:

You shoot the eidolon anywhere on the body at any point in the fight.

You then look at the limbs hp color once it is exposed. If it's red it worked. If it's still orange it didn't, in which case you just use the sarpa like 2-3 more times on him until it turns red.

The host will see the color change. But the damage buff still applies to everyone in the session. Tested. :)

Question: What if the one who used the sarpa was a client (not host). Does the armor reduction still applies? even if we don't see the change from yellow to red?

[Nemund]

Hi I'm No One původně napsal:

You shoot the eidolon anywhere on the body at any point in the fight.

You then look at the limbs hp color once it is exposed. If it's red it worked. If it's still orange it didn't, in which case you just use the sarpa like 2-3 more times on him until it turns red.

The host will see the color change. But the damage buff still applies to everyone in the session. Tested. :)

I wasn't seeing even any change in damage when testing it with the redeemer. I know about the yellow/red display bug but still should be seeing damage change.

[Rabanito]

nevyn0ad původně napsal:

Hi I'm No One původně napsal:

You shoot the eidolon anywhere on the body at any point in the fight.

You then look at the limbs hp color once it is exposed. If it's red it worked. If it's still orange it didn't, in which case you just use the sarpa like 2-3 more times on him until it turns red.

The host will see the color change. But the damage buff still applies to everyone in the session. Tested. :)

I wasn't seeing even any change in damage when testing it with the redeemer. I know about the yellow/red display bug but still should be seeing damage change.

You should test it with sarpa, nobody uses redeemer for eidolons.

I know reducing armor near zero helps you making more damage, but my doubt is if only works when you are hosting. Playing as client won't show you transition from yellow to red, could be a graphic glitch. But what i need to know is if the armor gets reduced anyways.

[Spook]

It might just not work with the redeemer entirely; as far as the game claims (which, hey, it could be lying! That happens sometimes!), the Redeemer's shotgun fire actually does pure Blast damage, despite the spray of impact procs.

[Nemund]

Spook původně napsal:

It might just not work with the redeemer entirely; as far as the game claims (which, hey, it could be lying! That happens sometimes!), the Redeemer's shotgun fire actually does pure Blast damage, despite the spray of impact procs.

Ah. Thanks. That would actually be a very good explanation about why I'm not seeing it work. I think I just got a Sarpa built so can give it a try. I just already had the redeemer ranked and was figuring it should be similar.

[BurlsoL]

Spook původně napsal:

It might just not work with the redeemer entirely; as far as the game claims (which, hey, it could be lying! That happens sometimes!), the Redeemer's shotgun fire actually does pure Blast damage, despite the spray of impact procs.

This is basically what it is. Although the impact procs happen with a redeemer, it deals 0 impact damage on the charge attack so there is no armor debuff due to the mod only applying on impact damage.

[Laura]

nevyn0ad původně napsal:

Hi I'm No One původně napsal:

You shoot the eidolon anywhere on the body at any point in the fight.

You then look at the limbs hp color once it is exposed. If it's red it worked. If it's still orange it didn't, in which case you just use the sarpa like 2-3 more times on him until it turns red.

The host will see the color change. But the damage buff still applies to everyone in the session. Tested. :)

I wasn't seeing even any change in damage when testing it with the redeemer. I know about the yellow/red display bug but still should be seeing damage change.

It's not a bug. A red health bar means target has no armor.

[Laura]

BurlsoL původně napsal:

Spook původně napsal:

It might just not work with the redeemer entirely; as far as the game claims (which, hey, it could be lying! That happens sometimes!), the Redeemer's shotgun fire actually does pure Blast damage, despite the spray of impact procs.

This is basically what it is. Although the impact procs happen with a redeemer, it deals 0 impact damage on the charge attack so there is no armor debuff due to the mod only applying on impact damage.

Shattering impact still applies even if no damage is dealt.

[Nemund]

But shattering impact only works if there is impact damage that is negated due to invuln. So if redeemers pellets are pure blast shattering impact won't work. Which explains what I saw.

And the red/yellow bug is that clients often still see a yellow bar even when armour is fully stripped while the host sees a red bar.

[Laura]

nevyn0ad původně napsal:

But shattering impact only works if there is impact damage that is negated due to invuln. So if redeemers pellets are pure blast shattering impact won't work. Which explains what I saw.

And the red/yellow bug is that clients often still see a yellow bar even when armour is fully stripped while the host sees a red bar.

Still that's just visual.