R.I.P. Warframe

[Lethal Shadow]

After trying to pass "Operation: Buried Debts" event i've understood that its time to quit tihis game,

1 FPS in the Orb Vallis with low graphic settings (opposite to 60 FPS on same computer in Ark Suvival Evolved)
Instant host migration

So game was just uninstalled after that. RIP Warframe until times when DE will learn how to render open locations.

[Drakzen]

Thanks for tell us. I might shed a tear of joy whilst drinking my tea and reminiscing about you leaving and letting us all know.

[talkingmute]

引用自 Lethal Shadow：

引用自 <:)：

Jesus you must be running integrated graphics on a decade old budget laptop if you're getting bad FPS on low.

Yeah. It is integrated one. And do you know what surprise is? Any Cry Engine or Unreal Engine based game running on it without problems and lags. If other games running on this hardware without lags may be problem not in harware, huh?

My old computer budget build had trouble running MineCraft, but still ran Warframe just fine.

Since then I've upgraded parts (had to switch out for a new motherboard to support) and now roughly match your specs. Though, something tells me that not having a GPU and having integrated might be the issue.

引用自 Lethal Shadow：

Yeah. It is integrated one. And do you know what surprise is? Any Cry Engine or Unreal Engine based game running on it without problems and lags. If other games running on this hardware without lags may be problem not in harware, huh?

Some games are CPU intensive (like Minecraft) some are not. If you are using an integrated graphics card, that's on you. My laptop (also integrated) can run the S.T.A.L.K.E.R trilogy, but can't run System Shock 2 (1999) due to fps in the single digits.

I don't think you understand that Warframe has hordes of entities at any given moment, including lots of enemies, each enemy made up of different parts, and all parts having a surface PLUS reflections. Shoving all rendering through your CPU is great when it comes to simple and basic that doesn't have complex surfaces (like MineCraft) but as soon as you get into more complex games it will just start crashing computers.

Fact of the matter is Warframe is very well done when it comes to optimization. Just because you can't really run it without a dedicated GPU (as opposed to integrated) doesn't mean it's bad. It's a more efficient engine that can't be run through your CPU.


EDIT: No offense, but saying you can run something that utilizes the Unreal Engine on integrated is bull. Unless you're talking about the iterations of the Unreal Engine that have been around almost 15 years more than Warframe.

[DiscoMoose]

idk i get perfect fps, my rig is mid tier. 2070s, i7, blah blah.

[Security Cam #7]

This thread:
"My cpu is a decade old and I use integrated GPU and I have 1 fps on open world maps. Obviously it's DE's fault for not degrading the game's quality to levels of ♥♥♥♥ so people with trash cans can play."

[wavel54]

引用自 Smelly Fish：

This thread:
"My cpu is a decade old and I use integrated GPU and I have 1 fps on open world maps. Obviously it's DE's fault for not degrading the game's quality to levels of ♥♥♥♥ so people with trash cans can play."

Doesn't this game only use a single gigabyte of ram though? Like the performance is hampered by the limit itself.

[GunsForBucks]

引用自 wavel54：

引用自 Smelly Fish：

This thread:
"My cpu is a decade old and I use integrated GPU and I have 1 fps on open world maps. Obviously it's DE's fault for not degrading the game's quality to levels of ♥♥♥♥ so people with trash cans can play."

Doesn't this game only use a single gigabyte of ram though? Like the performance is hampered by the limit itself.

The game will use what it needs to... I do notice that on my old machine with integrated graphics It tends to use more ram than my main gaming machine in the same places...not by a lot but over 2 isn't strange.

[wavel54]

引用自 GunsForBucks：

引用自 wavel54：

Doesn't this game only use a single gigabyte of ram though? Like the performance is hampered by the limit itself.

The game will use what it needs to... I do notice that on my old machine with integrated graphics It tends to use more ram than my main gaming machine in the same places...not by a lot but over 2 isn't strange.

Yeah but if you allow it to use more you'll get a performance increase surely

[GunsForBucks]

引用自 wavel54：

引用自 GunsForBucks：

The game will use what it needs to... I do notice that on my old machine with integrated graphics It tends to use more ram than my main gaming machine in the same places...not by a lot but over 2 isn't strange.

Yeah but if you allow it to use more you'll get a performance increase surely

No... that isn't how it works

[wavel54]

引用自 GunsForBucks：

引用自 wavel54：

Yeah but if you allow it to use more you'll get a performance increase surely

No... that isn't how it works

Alright. How does it work?

Wouldn't more RAM allow more processes to occur, and therefore higher framerates and less lag due to processes throttling?

[GunsForBucks]

引用自 wavel54：

引用自 GunsForBucks：

No... that isn't how it works

Alright. How does it work?

Do games with memory leaks run better or worse?

[wavel54]

引用自 GunsForBucks：

引用自 wavel54：

Alright. How does it work?

Do games with memory leaks run better or worse?

Worse

[GunsForBucks]

引用自 wavel54：

引用自 GunsForBucks：

Do games with memory leaks run better or worse?

Worse

Congrats you just learned that loading stuff into memory just for the sake of using more does not help.

[wavel54]

引用自 GunsForBucks：

引用自 wavel54：

Worse

Congrats you just learned that loading stuff into memory just for the sake of using more does not help.

I'm not sure what the point of coming into a conversation with an unearned sarcastic tone is when you're talking to someone who isn't educated in a topic and is just asking a question.
Would allowing a larger amount of memory to be utilised by a game mean that stuff is loaded in just for the sake of it?

[GunsForBucks]

引用自 wavel54：

引用自 GunsForBucks：

Congrats you just learned that loading stuff into memory just for the sake of using more does not help.

I'm not sure what the point of coming into a conversation with an unearned sarcastic tone is when you're talking to someone who isn't educated in a topic and is just asking a question.
Would allowing a larger amount of memory to be utilised by a game mean that stuff is loaded in just for the sake of it?

The game is allowed to use what it needs.. there is no "cap" I am aware of. It isn't a matter of allowing it or not.

When a computer uses ram it copies data from your HD and then uses it for calculations. It can also do calculations from the HD... there is a balance. This is why you hear some games are more "CPU intensive".. it is actually faster to run calculations directly rather than using RAM all the time. Ram is used for things that will get "loaded in" and used frequently rather than having to go to the HD for everything. If you want a better answer I suggest you look up how computers work, my last "class" on computers was back in the 70's on a magnetic tape machine and punch cards. But I do know loading stuff into ram just to load it into ram isn't a great idea. Not that I am being sarcastic but it really isn't my job to educate you on how computers work... I was trying to provide an answer that might encourage you to look it up yourself.

[wavel54]

引用自 GunsForBucks：

引用自 wavel54：

I'm not sure what the point of coming into a conversation with an unearned sarcastic tone is when you're talking to someone who isn't educated in a topic and is just asking a question.
Would allowing a larger amount of memory to be utilised by a game mean that stuff is loaded in just for the sake of it?

The game is allowed to use what it needs.. there is no "cap" I am aware of. It isn't a matter of allowing it or not.

When a computer uses ram it copies data from your HD and then uses it for calculations. It can also do calculations from the HD... there is a balance. This is why you hear some games are more "CPU intensive".. it is actually faster to run calculations directly rather than using RAM all the time. Ram is used for things that will get "loaded in" and used frequently rather than having to go to the HD for everything. If you want a better answer I suggest you look up how computers work, my last "class" on computers was back in the 70's on a magnetic tape machine and punch cards. But I do know loading stuff into ram just to load it into ram isn't a great idea. Not that I am being sarcastic but it really isn't my job to educate you on how computers work... I was trying to provide an answer that might encourage you to look it up yourself.

You're having a discussion that you're voluntarily taking a part of, and were being sarcastic for no good reason. If you didn't want to discuss it you didn't have to. You chose to.

My initial point was I believed there was a cap of a gigabyte of RAM that can be utilised by the game, and that being less limited might improve performance. But from what you're saying I gather Warframe doesn't use a significant enough amount of RAM as it uses the processor instead.