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Malidictus Aug 19, 2018 @ 12:15pm
How much of this game can I "ignore?"
Wait! Let me explain! :)

I got roped into Warframe by a few friends of mine, so I've been trying to make the best of it. I played a fair few MMOs in my time, chiefly City of Heroes, bless its heart. I know Warframe isn't an MMO per se, but it has a lot elements which remind me of old-style subscription-based MMOs ala Lineage and World of WarCraft. Player-trading, crafting, guild halls, dailies, etc. None of these are necessarily BAD things, but some of them REALLY don't sit well with me. I did my time with MMOs, I put eight years into City of Heroes, I'm done with those mechanics.

So... How much of Warframe can I safely ignore and how much will that hurt me? To try and keep the question a little less broad, let me give a few specific examples:

Can I ignore PvP? Are there any rewards exclusive to PvP, is it in any way mandatory, what would I be missing out?

Can I ignore pets? At least the organic Tamagochi style ones which require regular logins and resource investments? I have NO patience whatsoever for upkeep, and it seems like I can grab synthetic pets in their place. Maybe not as good, so what would I be missing?

Can I ignore Syndicates? Not a fan of factions, not a fan of the runaround special missions, not a fan of the Syndicate warfare, at least what I've read of it. What would I be missing if I never bothered with that?

Can I ignore clans? As the "Why play an MMO if you're going to solo" type of player, I want as little contact with other players as possible, so I don't intend to form or join a clan. I'm told there's research restricted to that, but how much would I be missing and are there alternatives?

Can I ignore Mastery Ranks? This is probably the dumbest question of all, but I honestly don't see Mastery Ranks doing terribly much for me. They give me more slots I'm not going to use, more trades I'm not going to do, more capacity for Syndicate stuff I'm not going to partake in, etc. Mastery Ranks DO gate weapons so that's something I'm definitely going to have to invest in, but is there a point to getting to max rank? Do I gain health/armour/shield/damage/whatever?

Those are just examples, though. I'm well aware that this is playing the game "wrong" and probably hurting me in the long run, but I'm trying to meet Warframe half-way. As with pretty much every MMO I've ever played, the secret to sticking with it has been as much finding what I like as avoiding what I don't like - hence the original question.
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Omnipresent Oatmeal Aug 19, 2018 @ 12:16pm 
Originally posted by Malidictus:
Can I ignore PvP?
Yes. Everyone else ignores PvP.

Originally posted by Malidictus:
Can I ignore pets?
Yes, after you do the one quest that requires you to breed a Kubrow.

Originally posted by Malidictus:
Can I ignore Syndicates?
Yes, as long as you don't want items that come only from Syndicates that, more often than not, are extremely useful.

Originally posted by Malidictus:
Can I ignore clans?
Yes, but only if you don't care about having access to somewhere between 1/4 and 1/2 of the weapons in the game.

Originally posted by Malidictus:
Can I ignore Mastery Ranks?
No.
Last edited by Omnipresent Oatmeal; Aug 19, 2018 @ 12:19pm
primobrainlet Aug 19, 2018 @ 12:18pm 
1: you should ignore pvp, nobody plays it
2: yes, or just make one and put it away forever, dosent matter
3: not advisable, but yes, will just be harder to get augments, and theres no syndicate warfare, just passive gain and enemy ones coming after you a little on very rare occasions
4: not really, however you can easily make a solo clan
5: NO! you need it to progress in the game and unlock more weapons, just play the game normally and level up items to gain more, do an easy test and keep going, at 16 you can pretty much safely stop caring about it
Last edited by primobrainlet; Aug 19, 2018 @ 12:18pm
Tesper Aug 19, 2018 @ 12:21pm 
PvP? yes, you can ignore it, just like 99% of the playerbase
Pets? yes, sentinels are the true endgame
Syndicates? yeah, you can buy what they offer from other players
Clans? just join one and get all the weapon and warframe blueprints that can only be earned there, then you can leave, but in an upcoming update (railjack), the Clan Research will be fundamental for upgrades
MR? eh... the higher, the better; you'll unlock more weapons and more prime gear when you have higher MR
Walrus-Sama Aug 19, 2018 @ 12:24pm 
Why even play the game at all if you plan to ignore large parts of it?

Like, I understand you may not like certain parts of it and may choose to avoid them, but you've listed so much stuff, some of which there is not logical reason to ignore it.
HacaPotato Aug 19, 2018 @ 12:31pm 
You could, you know... Just play the game and find out for yourself.
TerrenceTheTurtle Aug 19, 2018 @ 12:33pm 
You can ignore pvp, and it isnt that good so you shouldnt bother in the first place.
you can ignore pets, sentinels are usually better anyways
You can ignore syndicates, although it is better to not ignore them because they can give you good rewards like ability upgrades and powerful weapons.
You can ignore clans, but it is better off not to, as they can give you good weapons and (a few) warframes
You can't ignore mastery rank. Almost every weapon and all the prime stuff is locked behind that. You level it up by leveling up weapons, warframes, pets, etc.
Malidictus Aug 19, 2018 @ 12:39pm 
Originally posted by Walrus-Sama:
Why even play the game at all if you plan to ignore large parts of it? Like, I understand you may not like certain parts of it and may choose to avoid them, but you've listed so much stuff, some of which there is not logical reason to ignore it.

I'm hedging my bets. I listed pretty much everything I could think of, and the tally is actually more favourable than I expected. Yes on a bunch of things, Maybe on a bunch of things, No on the rest. That's valuable info.

Originally posted by HacaPotato:
You could, you know... Just play the game and find out for yourself.

That would involve putting significant time into something I fundamentally don't enjoy. It's easier to ask the community for opinions in those cases. So far, it's been worth the effort to ask.

As to the advise

So PvP and furry pets are safe to ignore, that's absolutely good to know. Syndicates and clans probably not so much. I'll see about messing with Syndicates, clans... I don't know. I could make a clan of my own, but wouldn't I also need tons of resources in a system designed for large groups of people? Could probably mooch off someone else's clan, I suppose. And yeah, I figured Mastery Ranks wouldn't be safe to ignore. I kind of have a setup I already like, is why I ask - frame and weapons. Guess I'll have to see about playing with other items, even if I don't necessarily like them. Would like to get to at least MR3, that seems to be an important milestone.

As to Syndicates and Clans - do I HAVE to wear their insignias in order to make progress with them? That sort of thing "home team" stuff is what typically turns me off on a lot of the community stuff in MMOs. The goal is to make me feel like part of something broader, which tends to irritate me in real life. Personal hangups and all that. Will have to see how that goes, I suppose.

Either way, thanks for the info, everyone. It helps a lot.
Nightflare75 Aug 19, 2018 @ 12:43pm 
I'm not in a clan and I'm not having any trouble with the weapons I have none from clans so yes you can ignore them i'm also not interested in endgame stuff.
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primobrainlet Aug 19, 2018 @ 12:44pm 
Originally posted by Nightflare75:
I'm not in a clan and I'm not having any trouble with the weapons I have none from clans so yes you can ignore them
not really since some warframes and many weapons are clan exclusive
Originally posted by Malidictus:
As to Syndicates and Clans - do I HAVE to wear their insignias in order to make progress with them? That sort of thing "home team" stuff is what typically turns me off on a lot of the community stuff in MMOs. The goal is to make me feel like part of something broader, which tends to irritate me in real life. Personal hangups and all that. Will have to see how that goes, I suppose.
A workaround for that would be to set the insignia's color to black and then turn the Alpha slider for it all the way down. For most insignia, that makes it more or less invisible.
Nightflare75 Aug 19, 2018 @ 12:56pm 
Originally posted by Davy Jones:
Originally posted by Nightflare75:
I'm not in a clan and I'm not having any trouble with the weapons I have none from clans so yes you can ignore them
not really since some warframes and many weapons are clan exclusive
wel li have ignored clans and I'm doing fine so yes you can if you want to but even if I'm not in a clan I would still recommend giving one a try I'm just natrually a loner so I'm not super fond of groups or clans.
Last edited by Nightflare75; Aug 19, 2018 @ 6:40pm
primobrainlet Aug 19, 2018 @ 12:56pm 
Originally posted by Nightflare75:
Originally posted by Davy Jones:
not really since some warframes and many weapons are clan exclusive
wel li have ignored clans and I'm doing fine so yes you can if you want to
your missing out on a lot of very powerful weapons and some decent frames
Nightflare75 Aug 19, 2018 @ 12:58pm 
Originally posted by Davy Jones:
Originally posted by Nightflare75:
wel li have ignored clans and I'm doing fine so yes you can if you want to
your missing out on a lot of very powerful weapons and some decent frames
I bought the frames avalible with plat as for weapons my current weapons are fine not having any difficulty doing missions. but I did look up some builds.
Last edited by Nightflare75; Aug 19, 2018 @ 1:01pm
Qwib-Qwib Aug 19, 2018 @ 1:02pm 
No real reason to ignore Clans and Syndicates, really. There are Clans dedicated to Solo players who want to enjoy the benefits of being in a Clan (namely, research blueprints) without having to actually participate in Clan life. Join such a Clan, grab the blueprints you want in the Dojo, then feel free to completely ignore it forever, or even leave the Clan if you really don't want to be associated with them. And if it's contact with other players that bothers you, you could also make your own Solo Clan, like I did. It's definitely an investment, not gonna lie, but it's perfectly doable, and you have an entire Dojo all to yourself.

As for Syndicates, you seem to be under the impression that it's some sort of annoying feature that requires you to actually be active in "Faction Wars", and play ranged battle with other players, and whatnot. Not at all. You join a Syndicate, they give you a sigil, you wear it when doing missions, and you get Syndicate affinity (with a daily cap) that you redeem for interesting rewards. Then, you climb the ranks for even better rewards. You can make their sigil nearly invisible, and nobody is gonna care in the slightest about it anyway, or even notice it. There's no "community" in Syndicates, you join them, you run their sigil, you get cool stuff. Done. There are daily missions you can run for bonus affinity that doesn't count toward the daily cap, but it's not required at all. The only "annoying" effect of joining a Syndicate is that their enemy Syndicate might occasionally send a squad to kill you during a mission, but eh. Avoid them at the beginning of the game, then just kill them when you get strong enough that they become a non-issue. But that's literally all there is to it.

As for Mastery Ranks, NO, you should NOT ignore it, for several reasons. You can't really ignore it anyway, since it's an indicator of how much content (gear) you're experiencing, so staying at the same level for too long is just setting yourself for getting burned out. The game is mostly about trying out a whole variety of cool weapons and frames, so stagnating isn't gonna be much fun on the long run. Then, a higher Mastery Rank raises your daily affinity cap for Syndicates, so high rank means that you will be able to ignore Syndicate missions even harder and just let affinity fill up while doing whatever. And of course, a bunch of awesome weapons are locked behind rank. *cough*tigrisprime*cough*
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Malidictus Aug 19, 2018 @ 1:22pm 
We'll have to see how this goes. My reasons for asking are... I'm king of not really interested in most of the frames or weapons. Call me superficial, but there are only a few that I actually like. Sure, I could just make "alt" builds like I did back in City of Heroes ("altitis" is a real thing) so maybe that's the way to go, but in that case it was writing out backstories for these characters which carried me through... And even then I used like 4 of the 14 available Archetypes, even fewer of their Powersets :)

I currently have my Atlas frame and Fragor hammer maxed out, but don't quite have a pistol or rifle I actually like. Was hoping for a Gorgon, though that's proving difficult to get, at least for me. There are a few similar-ish melee weapons and frames that I could maybe try out, but I'm definitely not interested in experiencing all or even most of what the game has to offer. I spent the majority of my time in Payday 2 using the same three guns (the three LMGs) and most of the same skills, I spent the majority of my time in The Division using pretty much the same build.

If I'm faced with the choice of playing stuff I don't like just to progress, that's going to be a problem.
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Date Posted: Aug 19, 2018 @ 12:15pm
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