Why has this Arbitration Shield Drone fiasco still not been dealt with?

[Coe⁧⁧✔️[Quality Control]]

Releasing this new game mode (that's now a staple for end-game Endo farming and should be as fair for all warframes as possible) right after squeezing out Umbra Excalibur seems to be really.. Dumb?

I'm just gonna make a list describing this enemy as it is right now:

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1. They're tiny, black floating pixels that are very hard to spot, much less shoot - roughly less than half the size of regular Ospreys that actually have some layer of thought put into them with uniquely shaped, large wings to give them an easily spotted silhouette.

2. They are immune to ALL abilities.

3. They are immune to ALL exalted weapons.

4. They are incredibly resilient.

5. They can be made nigh unkillable with both Ancient Healers and inside the spheres of Nullifier orbs & Frost sphere enemies - Partially fixed.

6. They dodge around like regular Ospreys if you get close (like with shotguns).

7. They make extremely debilitating enemies such as Disruptors immune to quickly being dispatched, having this only become MUCH worse if you don't know their location and/or they are stuck in obscure places as often is the case which leads to people not being able to use abilities whatsoever.. Unless they devolve into Zenurik's Energizing Dash spam - Good job enforcing an existing meta.

8. They can merge inside the enemies they are protecting (not including walls and other terrain) to become completely and utterly unkillable.

9. They give anyone wanting to play melee a big flipping of the bird.

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I don't know about you, but if i was in charge of developing a game and one of my employees came to me with this idea to add "difficulty" to a game mode, I'd punch him/her in the stomach and threaten to fire him/her if they didn't stop drinking on the job.

P.S:

Yes, I'm aware that you can play Inaros & use weapon X/Y to counter them and not have to worry about anything - I even have him built: https://i.imgur.com/sEGec0B.png - But having to resort to this just because the developers are clueless on how to create proper, non idiotic & tedious difficulty just makes me want to stop playing the game.

[Franss the Coffee Addict]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Ruben T:

They are fine as they are for crying out loud, have not had a single problem with them, even when being buffed by ancients they are still easily killed. Christ..do people never think before posting threads like this anymore?
''NOOO MUH ELITE MODE IS TOO HARD!''

[ANU]

spam melee with long range

[Zhaeph]

Everyone is scared about these little drones and here am I, killing them with melee.....

[IAmNotMatthew]

These drones aren't making Arbitrations difficult, the enemies affected by the drones are, so are the modifiers for each gamemode. On shot into this drone and most probably all enemies affected by it will die.

[Bowbie]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Coe:

Releasing this new game mode (that's now a staple for end-game Endo farming and should be as fair for all warframes as possible) right after squeezing out Umbra Excalibur seems to be really.. Dumb?

I'm just gonna make a list describing this enemy as it is right now:

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1. They're tiny, black floating pixels that are very hard to spot, much less shoot - roughly less than half the size of regular Ospreys that actually have some layer of thought put into them with uniquely shaped, large wings to give them an easily spotted silhouette.

2. They are immune to ALL abilities.

3. They are immune to ALL exalted weapons.

4. They are incredibly resilient.

5. They can be made nigh unkillable with both Ancient Healers and inside the spheres of Nullifiers & Frost sphere enemies.

6. They dodge around like regular Ospreys if you get close (like with shotguns).

7. They make extremely debilitating enemies such as Disruptors immune to quickly being dispatched, having this only become MUCH worse if you don't know their location and/or they are stuck in obscure places as often is the case which leads to people not being able to use abilities whatsoever.. Unless they devolve into Zenurik's Energizing Dash spam - Good job enforcing an existing meta.

8. They can merge inside the enemies they are protecting (not including walls and other terrain) to become completely and utterly unkillable..

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I don't know about you, but if i was in charge of developing a game and one of my employees came to me with this idea to add "difficulty" to a game mode, I'd demand him to stop drinking on the job.

P.S:

Yes, I'm aware that you can play Inaros and not have to worry about anything - I even have him built: https://i.imgur.com/sEGec0B.png - But this enemy just makes me want to stop playing the game.

1. No they are not tiny. As for any game mode, pick a good weapon

2. That's the entire point. Pick a good weapon

3. exalted weapons are abilities, nothing wrong here. Pick a good weapon

4. No they totally are not, worst case i two-shot them if there's an ancient buffing it. Pick a good weapon

5. you're plain wrong, git gud. And also take a good weapon

6. Like regular osprey, nothning new here then, git gud. And take a good weapon

7. They are meant to be dealt first quickly, that's the point. Are you complaining it's too difficult ? git gud

8. Never happened to me

[PhellAsleep]

Opprinnelig skrevet av IAmNotMatthew™:

These drones aren't making Arbitrations difficult, the enemies affected by the drones are, so are the modifiers for each gamemode. On shot into this drone and most probably all enemies affected by it will die.

And if they don't die, they are heavily damaged and inflicted with a blast proc that knocks them all down.

[No_Quarter]

MAKE GAME MODE HARD?!!!!!!!!!!!

devs: here you go, enjoy

TOO DAMN HARD I CANNOT AIM THAT WELL I WANNA BE ABLE TO SPAM 4

devs: but how will game mode be hard if you jerk your willy and spam 4?

WE WANT HARD MODE ARBITRATIONS SUCK!!!!!!!!!

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basically all whiners summed up

[P!X_avsbes]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Ghin:

They're the same as nullifiers. What's the big deal.

They are not, Nullifier Bubbles are not immune to exalted weapons

[P!X_avsbes]

They are NOT immune to all Abilities... Gara's Damage Ability works.
Also in my opinion, they make Arbitrations too easy as soon as you shoot them, cause everything just dies, even after an hourlong arbitration.
They should not be immune to exalted weapons (although they should potentially have a damage reduction of 75% against them) they should be immune to either all abilities (which they are not at the moment, gara's damage ability works) apart from exalted weapons or not be immune to almost any ability (which would make them a little too easy to kill) and they should not deal a quazillion damage to all enemies in range upon death.... maybe a forced cold proc or sth like this - not more.

[Okami Amaterasu]

The only thing that annoys me about the drones is their weird hitboxes, trying to kill them with snipers is infuriating at times when my bullets go right through them. Other than that they don't really bother me much.

[macklberry]

Opprinnelig skrevet av P!X_avsbes:

They are NOT immune to all Abilities... Gara's Damage Ability works.
Also in my opinion, they make Arbitrations too easy as soon as you shoot them, cause everything just dies, even after an hourlong arbitration.
They should not be immune to exalted weapons (although they should potentially have a damage reduction of 75% against them) they should be immune to either all abilities (which they are not at the moment, gara's damage ability works) apart from exalted weapons or not be immune to almost any ability (which would make them a little too easy to kill) and they should not deal a quazillion damage to all enemies in range upon death.... maybe a forced cold proc or sth like this - not more.

If they are not immune to exalted weapons, than why would you ever put away your chromatic blade? Maybe try a frame other than excal, or just bring a good weapon to shoot a drone sometimes. Its not like all the enemies are immune to your exalted blade, just a group every now and then. Still plenty to spam your 4 all over, just not the whole mission.

[De_faulty]

1. Arca plasmor

2. ???

3. Profit

[Walkerk19]

OP, do you regularly play ESO and Sortie before Arbitration mode came out?

Now, have you ever tried RAID or even heard of the game mode? This is before it was removed from the game.

Having personally experienced those game modes (I'm more regular to the first two), I strongly disagree that having the drone as an extra challenge is considered unfair.

You don't like the arbi drone is fine, many people doesn't when it spawned. Then most people I played with, able to deal with it easily. You can let your squadmate handle the drone if you hate it so much and having hard time dealing with it. Or learn how to kill it yourself.

Since the majority of players able to do Arbitration with little problem, your rant will not convince the dev to change it. Your choice is to either abandon the game mode, or adapt to it.

[DragonNewTech]

'Elite Alerts' have the word 'Elite' inside. They were named this way to make sure that people know that this mission type won't be easy. Your post only proofs that you shouldn't play this mode.

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1. I havn't had a hard time spotting them, the red aura they have gives it away
2. Bring a heavy hitting accurate gun
3. I don't like that they are immune to exalted weapons but #2 is why im ok with it
4. Its an "end game" type thing, you aren't supposed to be able to one shot it with everything
5. dodge around, pull enemies off of the drone, rinse and repeat until you can kill the drone a little bit safer
6. target practice
7. yeah their spawns kinda suck but it is easy to find them fast due to them glowing bright red and having beams everywhere, and stop crying over people using zenurik, oh no someone is using something that does nothing but benefit you i hate it
8. i havnt had a drone merge into an enemy long enough for me to miss more than 5 shots with a tiberon or sicarus, it is pretty upsetting when it happens but if you move around alot so will everything else and the drones wont get stuck in enemies that much


god forbid there is something in this game that makes you change your playstyle, if DE just made stuff harder to kill by raising armour and hp they would say they are lazy for just making stuff harder to kill, the drones are a good thing to have in these missions because it makes them harder and you cant just casually cheese alerts with them flying around, you have to have good aim, you have to take better care of your energy, you have to be patient