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Sorry, I subscribe to the mentality that you should not intentionally try to inconvenience others just because you can.
1 person without a relic on a rare ocassion; okay, fine, whatever. Repeatedly seeing it happen every friggin time, seeing people drop party because of it, and dealing with that mess all the time... Sorry, but you have effectively ruined part of the game for a good many people just because you were selfish. This is no different from running bounties with 2 invis loki's (ash now) just sitting there to leech. This identifies you as the worst this community has to offer, and I wish horrible painful things upon you.
you can do what you want, i couldn't care less.
as long as you go in public, expect others to do what they want and not what you want...period.
if you no likey, create your squads and go in.
if not, well... i guess you will come here to cry and complain about it...so whatever! lol
and if you still no likey, go play fortnite, i hear it is a famous game these days. lol
at least this way we will have one less einstein to worry about. lol
But here's the problem. This mentality just leads to DE eventually doing something about it when it gets bad enough. Ever stop to consider why a boss run requires EVERY member of the squad to enter the boss room? This is because it was becoming common practice for people to join these missions, just sit at start, have their squad do all the work for them, then just go to extraction for the free part. DE would likely end up doing the same thing here where people no longer have the option and simply cannot start these missions without a relic equipped. There are already people complaining about it, so making it worse and intentionally doing that thing to piss off other players, will just make things worse before they are forced to get better.
I shouldn't have to find pre-made squads just to find a basic level of capability or consideration when doing missions. This makes recruiting channel get flooded with basic mission help requests, instead of being there for the kind of content that you might actually want a pre-made party for.
Pub does not mean that everyone needs to bring radiants and carry the squad or anything silly like that, but atleast show some ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ consideration for other players.
if you don’t want to use relics then you don’t have to. If you’re doing pubs then i won’t give a ♥♥♥♥ what you bring. It’s a public squad, if people want to force you to do something then they can ♥♥♥♥ off and make their own squad
Do it but solo unless you like the heat.
I usually use Volt Support with max range
and capacitance to train the entire team. Some people stay and we go together and farm both traces and primes at the same time.
Do whatever you want,but dont rage when someone else does this when you run random relics
2: He won't be viable for any of the rewards so no point in playing public because Ext missions are super easy and you can just run Lith.
3: Randoms will slow him down. You can also skip the 10 second timer at the end.
I've gotten plenty of rare rewards from random pub runs with 4 reward choices.
But if a person actively heads into the void fissure on public without a relic he's just going to annoy people and he won't get any benefits from it.
But please by all means do tell me how this is not good for him.
I for one say play the game how you see fit, don't bother listening to others giving you flak for nothing worth wasting your energy on. Because god forbid someone feels like playing with randoms and maybe making some friends without using relics.
The person doing lots of ext void fissure for just void tracers gain nothing to go in a group. It'll just take longer.
It isn't really an opinion but more of a fact.
People are basically telling that you should go to a Radiation hazard Sortie mission with some of the more powerful AOE Warframes and just kill everyone that get affected by radiation because screw civility. But hey this community gets a bit toxic every now and then.
Like "relic only" or whatever... I just accept that in a pub people will do what they want.
It isn't anything personal and people are not being mean.. heck first time players are all mixed in with everyone else.. people should expect anything in a pub and not consider it "rude". People have to learn some time... right?
I always try to be considerate when I play... I keep going in ESO even when I am capped out etc. But I don't expect random people in a pub to even understand that.. we should welcome all and be friendly... not get offended and act all eliteist.
It does not have to do with what is good or bad for a person.
It has to do with the freedom of choice and freedom of gameplay to a game (nonetheless).
And since it is a Public Squad, people will bring and do what they like/want/wish.
Thus, the people who are after a particular set of gameplay from their runs, they can create their own squads, by using the recruiting chat, or their clans, or their friendlists, or the discord servers they are in, or whatever other means they want/have, in order to run exactly as they want.
Creating a squad of your own is not a hard thing, nor it is a time consuming thing.
Nobody can dictate what the other player(s) will bring in Public Squads...for the better or worse!
No one uses the recruit chat to run random void relics. People will only use it if you plan going for the same one. Using it for random relics would take far longer than just going public on any void fissure mission.
I don't know why you people keep brining up the point about dictating what people can and can't bring.
We all know that. No need to repeat it.
But what some of us are saying is that going solo is quicker and better. It's also a nice gesture to the others who do void relic runs for the relics. Just equip some AOE Warframe and use room clearing abilities. Or just use properly modded Ignis. No need to wait for randoms or anything.
Also some of you people seems to think this is some MAJOR issue for me. It isn't. 99.99% of the people I've encountered in public void fissures have had relics. The few times someone was lacking one might just be a bug with the match making because I've selected a relic and not had it count in the round.
They are usually either low MR not knowing what they are doing or just as*holes
if some don't want to use te recruiting chat, then they can use their clans, their alliances, their friendlists, the discord servers they are in, or whatever other means they want/have.
since everybody knows that, why they still 'dictate'/'demand'/'expect' for players to go in solo or to bring a relic to a public squad, nonetheless.
why don't you go solo or go make your own squad?
why you go in public and you expect things to go your desired way?
i don't mean you in particular, the 'you' is plural, i mean those people who 'dictate' from other players to be bringing a relic to fissures or whatever.
public is public, people will bring what they like in there, so everyone should be expecting it all in public.
this is what is the freedom of choice and freedom of gameplay.
if they want a particular choice and gameplay, i assume they have the means and the intelligence to create a squad of their own and go in and have their run according to their exact wishes/desires/likes.