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how am i supposed to get to 20 minutes in this?
i keep running orokin derelict survivals but i keep losing before the 20 minute mark simply becuase not enough life support drops. How am i supposed to get the life support to appear so that i can actaully beat this?
Originally posted by KIREEK:
Survival mission is tied with efficiency, you can't just kill, you need to kill in an efficient manner, on a scatered team the efficiency is determined by the least efficient player, aka a player that kills less than the enemies that spawn near him, leading to the situation where all the spawns are near him and other player can't kill anything

Life support restore 30%

You also need to be aware that for atleast 5 minutes, you don't actually need to kill anyone, as containers and locker can have life support aswell and those can be explored and destroyed with any gear equiped, obviously this allows for the bare minimun, eventually you will need to kill.

Efficiency is essentially the art of doing several things at the same time, since you are strugling, we can try and be efficient on a lower level, that means you need to kill while you explore lockers and containers, in a group you need to be quick to realize which teammate is holding everyone back.
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Enemies killed in Survival missions have a chance of dropping a capsule that restores 5% life support, as do crates and lockers you break open. You want to get to 20 minutes, kill as many things as possible, and ideally bring some friends, as more players = more enemy spawns.
Skelos Jun 26, 2018 @ 11:37am 
I use a Nekros for survival runs.
His despoil will pump out more LS than you can ever use
BurlsoL Jun 26, 2018 @ 11:39am 
Join a group with 3 other people and find a large room to camp out in (either the one with 3 tiers up, the long sloped hallway, or one of the round dual floor rooms). A nekros or Hydroid with looting augments also helps. There is no public match making for derelict missions, so check with the recruiting channel or your clan.
Gabby Jun 26, 2018 @ 11:49am 
Originally posted by Snipper:
i keep running orokin derelict survivals but i keep losing before the 20 minute mark simply becuase not enough life support drops. How am i supposed to get the life support to appear so that i can actaully beat this?

Kill things faster, don't camp unless you've got a Hydroid or a Nekros, who multiply loot spawns. Moving around will cause more enemies to spawn faster, enemies drop LS boosters constantly. If you're consistently slaughtering you should never even drop below 80% LS.

Also never pop a LS unless you're under 50%.
Dee Jun 26, 2018 @ 11:50am 
Originally posted by Skelos:
I use a Nekros for survival runs.
His despoil will pump out more LS than you can ever use

oh so much this. anorexic zombieboy <3
Chiselion Jun 26, 2018 @ 12:28pm 
No one has mentioned Ivara who can steal from her prowl, which includes Life Support.

I personally use Ivara for longer survivals because I'm mostly a solo player and she's a chill frame to do it with, but if you want to go much further than 30mins take a group with Nekros/Hydroid and some kill-it-til-its-dead frames.
DeapNight Jun 26, 2018 @ 10:19pm 
Originally posted by Chiselion:
No one has mentioned Ivara who can steal from her prowl, which includes Life Support.

I personally use Ivara for longer survivals because I'm mostly a solo player and she's a chill frame to do it with, but if you want to go much further than 30mins take a group with Nekros/Hydroid and some kill-it-til-its-dead frames.
Dosent her passive just work when you are undetected?
peppermint hollows Jun 26, 2018 @ 10:41pm 
Originally posted by DeapNight:
Originally posted by Chiselion:
No one has mentioned Ivara who can steal from her prowl, which includes Life Support.

I personally use Ivara for longer survivals because I'm mostly a solo player and she's a chill frame to do it with, but if you want to go much further than 30mins take a group with Nekros/Hydroid and some kill-it-til-its-dead frames.
Dosent her passive just work when you are undetected?

No, it always works.
Tweed Jun 26, 2018 @ 11:01pm 
If you can't do a 20 min solo then it sounds like you need better gear to kill with.
Valkyr, Eternal War syndicate mod, Galatine with berserker and Life Strike and you're ready to go for 4+ hours solo
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KIREEK Jun 27, 2018 @ 10:51am 
Survival mission is tied with efficiency, you can't just kill, you need to kill in an efficient manner, on a scatered team the efficiency is determined by the least efficient player, aka a player that kills less than the enemies that spawn near him, leading to the situation where all the spawns are near him and other player can't kill anything

Life support restore 30%

You also need to be aware that for atleast 5 minutes, you don't actually need to kill anyone, as containers and locker can have life support aswell and those can be explored and destroyed with any gear equiped, obviously this allows for the bare minimun, eventually you will need to kill.

Efficiency is essentially the art of doing several things at the same time, since you are strugling, we can try and be efficient on a lower level, that means you need to kill while you explore lockers and containers, in a group you need to be quick to realize which teammate is holding everyone back.
Last edited by KIREEK; Jun 27, 2018 @ 3:22pm
Aether Jun 27, 2018 @ 3:20pm 
Kireekpso hit on some good points, but there's some other aspects you are missing.

1. Run in a Group. The game will spawn more enemies depending on how many players you have. This includes farming for resources. The more enemies, the more likely you get LS drops to spawn from enemies.

2. Get a camp group together, and FIND a good camp room. This is actually vital for step 3, but still important here. The ideal "Camp" room is a room where enemies do not attack you in waves, but rather attack you Constantly, in a nonstop wave. That means enemies are actually spawning somewhat near the room, and the faster you kill these, the more they show up, and the faster you can kill them to get more to spawn. Rinse and repeat.

3. Run with at least 1 nekros. A single nekros, even with a group of 3 players in a good camp spot can carry the entire team almost indefinately without you ever having to touch LS towers just because of Desecrate. The ONLY times you will fail here, is if the group constantly runs away from the nekros, making kills no longer desecrated, and More then cutting your drop chances in half.

4. STICK TOGETHER. Seriously, each player just taking the hell off, or constantly running from room to room is a huge mistake if you want to maintain LS%. The reason being is the game's Spawns get ♥♥♥♥♥♥, and enemies will spawn going after 1 player at a time. That will also cut your LS drops by a fairly large degree, and make the map that much more boring until "your turn" finally comes around.
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