Warframe etiquette and protocol

[virtualperson]

So as a pretty new player, I'm starting to pick up on what people are doing in missions, couple obvious observations, don't screw up the spy section of the mission, try to revive people if they die. I had a few questions, and also, not trying to start an angry post, but what kind of behaviour do you want to see in different mission types.

On the defend missions, I usually wait to see what others are doing, but I've noticed that usually everyone extracts after two rounds even if they're doing pretty well. How do you decide when to extract?

On survival missions, I've been told not to use the life supports unless falling below 40%, how do you decide how long to stay in these missions, when can you use the life support, and if you get low on health will it bother folks if you wait at extract?

On Void Fissures, why does it pop up multiple times asking for relics, if others provide a relic, will it be annoying if you do not?

What types of faux pas should be avoided?

[Chad Thundercock]

Well I pretty much learned by playing and it just came nautral to me, for void fissures it "breaks" open your relic which requires you to bring another relic, I prefered the other prime system but others say it sucked but to each their own.

[Dai]

How long you decide to stay is usually up to your squad. Communicate with them to see how long you or they want to stay for then work from there. Otherwise, just sitting at extraction without saying anything to anyone while everyone is focusing on the objective will piss people off (I hate it when people do that).

Endless fissure missions always have an option to use more relics every so often and the point of doing endless fissure missions usually is to stay for a good while to crack relics to get prime parts or forma that you need. You don't always have to use a relic but if other people use relics then you won't be able to pick their reward if they get anything you want. If everyone else in the squad picks "No relic" then that is pretty much the sign that everyone else wants to leave.

[Bowbie]

Generally speaking, people want to stay either only for rotation A, or a full rotation C. That means either 2 rounds or 4.

If you farm affinity or relics, it's generally more efficient and easy to just stop at rotation A (2 rounds) and start over, unless you're looking for Axi relics that can only be found in highest level planets rotation B&C.

On Void Fissures, why does it pop up multiple times asking for relics, if others provide a relic, will it be annoying if you do not?

At each rotation, you get a reward from your equipped relic, so in order to get more reward, you have to spend more relics. It shouldn't bother anyone if you don't equip a relic, though it is 99% of the time the sign that you want to extract. Being absolutely out of relic is rare those times.
On this subject, you'll still earn traces if you don't equip relic, but you won't get the reward.

[Kargor]

Opprinnelig skrevet av virtualperson:

On the defend missions, I usually wait to see what others are doing, but I've noticed that usually everyone extracts after two rounds even if they're doing pretty well. How do you decide when to extract?

Rewards.

Thing is, "endless" missions like defense have a reward system called "AABC" -- meaning there are three different drop tables called "A", "B" and "C", and the first two rewards (rounds 5 and 10 in defense) come from "A", ound 15 comes from "B" and round 20 comes from "C". Round 25 and 30 would be "A" again and so on -- so for starters, it makes no sense to go beyond 20.

Now, when "higher level" players do defense missions, they probably do it for the relics, as that's the main thing in the reward tables. Now, the general scheme for defense missions is that rotation "A" has a tier-specific relic type (Lith, Meso or Neo for T1, T2 and T3 missions) with very few trash rewards. Rotaton B and C have the next relic tier, but a lot more trash as well -- so it's generally better to use the next higher defense mission tier instead, as it will provide a better chance on their A rotation.

Therefore, if I'm not specifically looking for something else from the B/C rotations, and I'm not already on a T3 defense (there is no T4 defense, so you can't get Axi relics from T4 rotation A), I always extract after 10.

On survival missions, I've been told not to use the life supports unless falling below 40%, how do you decide how long to stay in these missions, when can you use the life support, and if you get low on health will it bother folks if you wait at extract?

I don't much care about the others. The 40% certainly isn't a hard boundary; it's just that life support gives 30%, and there might always be a whole bunch of monsters dropping the personal support thingies all at once, so using a capsule at 70% would still be a waste. I usually hit a capsule when things get to 50% or lower.

As for leaving, I try to stick to the 5 minute intervals (because that's when the rewards are given), then I go to extraction when I feel I want to, and just stay there. It's not my fault that the game doesn't allow individual extraction. Also, I usually have Shade with me, so I can just stay in Stealth :-)

Looking at it from the other side, if someone wants to extract, I usually join them just because it's the right thing to do. Although, if they are at the 14 minute mark or so, I camp just outside the extraction zone to signal him a "yes, but not right now".

On Void Fissures, why does it pop up multiple times asking for relics, if others provide a relic, will it be annoying if you do not?

If I want to do a void fissure without a relic, I do it solo. Personally, I'd consider it rude to not bring a relic into a public game. I very much like the idea of getting to choose between all 4 rewards, which is why I prefer my fissure missions to have 4 players with 4 relics.

Now, for Defense, if you don't want to continue, extract. If you do, equip a new relic.

For Excavation, if I don't want to continue I "tell" them right away by not equipping a relic, then heading for extraction first thing to clearly show WHY I didn't equip a relic. It's up to them then.

[DangerHobo]

Defense/survival: Watch for the flashing squad chat icon. As far as I know there is no setting to have it auto display like Dota or CSGO (squad chat). It probably helps to avoid some toxicity but most of the time I miss a squad mate saying that they need to extract. Usually enduro players group up before hand in recruiting chat or are Life of Rio. If I get random'd to a pub that is wanting to run endurance and I wasn't aware prior I just leave. I don't rage. I'm just out of the 5-15 minutes if they don't want to extract.



Use the life support to your comfort level. If you want to stay above 50% just pop it. I have never seen anybody get mad about those.



Void fissure: Let it be known before hand "hey that was my last one" and go to extraction. I like to chat it again when the "choose relic" screen pops up incase it was missed. You dont have to stand on extraction and start the timer but nobody should be surprised when you don't put in another relic. 99% of the time everone else will extract because they want a choice of 4 prizes instead of 3, but it sin't your problem. I have heard "why did you join an endless fissure if you only wanted to open 2 relics?" I said "Because that is what fissure is up right now and DE penalizes solo play." A better thing to do would be not to answer those dudebros, nothing to be gained.

[BurlsoL]

Opprinnelig skrevet av virtualperson:

So as a pretty new player, I'm starting to pick up on what people are doing in missions, couple obvious observations, don't screw up the spy section of the mission, try to revive people if they die. I had a few questions, and also, not trying to start an angry post, but what kind of behaviour do you want to see in different mission types.

On the defend missions, I usually wait to see what others are doing, but I've noticed that usually everyone extracts after two rounds even if they're doing pretty well. How do you decide when to extract?

On survival missions, I've been told not to use the life supports unless falling below 40%, how do you decide how long to stay in these missions, when can you use the life support, and if you get low on health will it bother folks if you wait at extract?

On Void Fissures, why does it pop up multiple times asking for relics, if others provide a relic, will it be annoying if you do not?

What types of faux pas should be avoided?

Spy missions - Don't enter a vault if someone is already inside. Just hang around outside the doorway so they don't have a party of enemies waiting for them or so that you can run in and use ciphers if they ♥♥♥♥ up majorly. It helps to know the rooms first.

Defend missions - It varies greatly depending on location and what people are there for. Wave 10 is normal for most defense just because people are unlocking the node or they want easy affinity or quick credits. You can always ask in the squad how long people plan to stay.

Survival - My personal threshold is somewhere around 60%. If it falls to this point it usually means that killing isn't being done quick enough. If I'm also the one doing 40% or so damage and kills it is usually a sign to extract at the next 5 minute mark unless I feel like (and currently able) carrying to 20m in. Normally people seem to get bored and want to extract at 10m in so it is often a good idea to ask the group how long they want to stay if you are looking for longer.

Void Fissures - These depend on the mission type really. Endless mission types (defense, survival, interception) tend to be better done in pre-made parties, often radshares (where everyone in the group has x number of radiant relics of a particular type). For public, you are best off doing non-endless missions as you are only needing to bring one relic and can just keep running the same mission. Although you can run without a relic, this ends up removing the additional option for others while getting you nothing from the time spent in the mission. While not that annoying, does beg the question of "why even join?".