The Relic grind has gotten way out of hand.

[Zefar]

When they first moved to the Relics it was good because now you didn't need to play Defense to get some items. You could pick the game mode you wanted.
Also within that year they kept switching out the Prime rewards so that veterans with old keys could still make use of them. It was GOOD. Like actually good.

Now? They keep adding more and more and more and even MORE relics.

Like good ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ god does this grind start to bother me. There are also no quick ways of getting relics and you only ever get 1 reward per wave/5minute mark/excavation.

Why do you DE keep adding so many new relics? Re use the old ones, change the reward pool on them. We have enough relics to fill them with every single prime item ever released like 5 times over.

Or is the plan to keep releasing more relics every single time you just release like 3 new prime items?
Do you hate veteran players that much? Hell even normal players will have to do a whole lot of more grinding. The Syndicate farm might be ok but due to the amount of relics it's just meh.


To fix this.

Reduce the amount of relics by like half. Then have all the rewards split up randomly among all of them.
This should be more than enough to have each reward on 3 different relics at all times.

[Klungo]

Are you talking about the reward pools? In that case, yeah I agree. Honestly this whole “Tier 1,2,3” thing with missions makes everything really limited. The only difference between Sedna’s dark sector defense mission and Pluto’s dark sector defense mission are the levels and the environment. They should make SPECIFIC relics drop from SPECIFIC missions to ease up on the grind.

Personally, I don’t think the grind is awful since I take it slowly, but it would be nice to see a change

[Snow]

The grind is awful, I love how DE adds something new and along with it half a dozen new relics to contain its parts and blueprint.

For me the awul grind isnt actually getting getting the 10% reward out of a relic, its getting the relic itself.

Me and 3 friends spent like 2 days trying to get relics for some of the newer stuff and we got I think it was 3 of one of the relics, and none of the others. We all wound up just buying the whole set.

[Hanki]

I dont really care about how many relics there are since every single time I want to farm relics I get the same one over and over and over
3 months ago, I had the Akstiletto prime already, built, formaed, etc
Guess wich relic I got every time I tried to farm Meso relics, that's right A1 or A2 or whichever the ♥♥♥♥ the Blueprint one is
For Liths it was the Saryn blueprint one, already built, potatoed, blablabla

In the end I end up getting the vast majority of my primes by just cracking the ones I dont want and expecting someone else to have the relics I actually want and getting their rewards

Btw, there's no quick way to farm them?
Everest on Earth
IO on jupiter
Hydron on Sedna
Hieracon on pluto
Literally just use a press 4 to win warframe, go solo and leave after wave 10 on defenses
Go public and stay as much as you want on excavations

The only problem would be getting a lame ass ammo mutation mod instead of a relic, but the defenses literally take 5 minutes each
And in excavationd you dont care since you can just get like 16 rewards before even having to consider leaving

[anaphylactic god]

increasing the grind is core concept of warframe.
what the point of reducing it ? to make game fun to play ? pfff nonsense

[Ghin]

Part that really bugs me is getting those credit and endo rewards.

[Doxorn]

I think DE should specify the grind.
At this moment we have 3 tiers of planets where all the vast amount of relics are scattered.

Tier 1: Level 1 - 10
Tier 2: Level 10 - 20
Tier 3: Level ≥ 20

T1 planets have Lith and Meso
T2 planets have Meso and Neo
T3 planets have Neo and Axi

This is a very generic drop table and heavy on RNG.
Since we have soo many relics I think DE should make use of the Kuva Fortress, Void and Derelict.
That way DE could cut in half the number of relics normally available in the game and the other half could be diveded between Derelict (Lith and Meso relics) and Kuva Fortress (Neo and Axi relics) and the Void could contain Lith, Meso, Neo and Axi relics depending on which part of the void you are in (because Void has 4 "entances").

This way The regular planets would contain 3/6 of the relics, Derelict would contain 1/6, Kuva Fortress would contain 1/6 and Void would contain 1/6 relics.

[Shard of Manus]

Originally posted by Doxorn:

I think DE should specify the grind.
At this moment we have 3 tiers of planets where all the vast amount of relics are scattered.

Tier 1: Level 1 - 10
Tier 2: Level 10 - 20
Tier 3: Level ≥ 20

T1 planets have Lith and Meso
T2 planets have Meso and Neo
T3 planets have Neo and Axi

This is a very generic drop table and heavy on RNG.
Since we have soo many relics I think DE should make use of the Kuva Fortress, Void and Derelict.
That way DE could cut in half the number of relics normally available in the game and the other half could be diveded between Derelict (Lith and Meso relics) and Kuva Fortress (Neo and Axi relics) and the Void could contain Lith, Meso, Neo and Axi relics depending on which part of the void you are in (because Void has 4 "entances").

This way The regular planets would contain 3/6 of the relics, Derelict would contain 1/6, Kuva Fortress would contain 1/6 and Void would contain 1/6 relics.

Derelict is already a good way to farm Relics. First 10 waves of Derelict Defence almost alway drop a Lith, sometimes two. There's a chance of Meso at Wave 15, I've not gotten a Neo or Axi drop though.

Note that this is above level 20. Your tier thing isn't quite correct. Axi drops are around 30-40 and up, Meso around 15-25, Neo 25-35 - these are with exceptions.

[WereChicken]

Originally posted by >:(:

There's no way farming traces and specific relics is better than the old void key system. This ♥♥♥♥ is cancer.

As someone who's played a lot of both I do prefer the current relic system, generally.

I do miss the old void endless missions (as they were one of the few challenging parts of the game with legitimately good risk vs reward) and do feel that relics should be a bit more specific in where they drop, however the new system is pretty good, I mean at least if you can weigh the odds with the relics.

I've already got my flappy bird prime building as well as Tiberon prime.

It all depends how much you build up your supply of relics. When you have a lot just do random endless relic missions and you quickly build up traces and usually get even more relics.

[Doxorn]

Originally posted by Shard of Manus:

Originally posted by Doxorn:

I think DE should specify the grind.
At this moment we have 3 tiers of planets where all the vast amount of relics are scattered.

Tier 1: Level 1 - 10
Tier 2: Level 10 - 20
Tier 3: Level ≥ 20

T1 planets have Lith and Meso
T2 planets have Meso and Neo
T3 planets have Neo and Axi

This is a very generic drop table and heavy on RNG.
Since we have soo many relics I think DE should make use of the Kuva Fortress, Void and Derelict.
That way DE could cut in half the number of relics normally available in the game and the other half could be diveded between Derelict (Lith and Meso relics) and Kuva Fortress (Neo and Axi relics) and the Void could contain Lith, Meso, Neo and Axi relics depending on which part of the void you are in (because Void has 4 "entances").

This way The regular planets would contain 3/6 of the relics, Derelict would contain 1/6, Kuva Fortress would contain 1/6 and Void would contain 1/6 relics.

Derelict is already a good way to farm Relics. First 10 waves of Derelict Defence almost alway drop a Lith, sometimes two. There's a chance of Meso at Wave 15, I've not gotten a Neo or Axi drop though.

Note that this is above level 20. Your tier thing isn't quite correct. Axi drops are around 30-40 and up, Meso around 15-25, Neo 25-35 - these are with exceptions.

First I wrote the Tier levels as you said but then I checked on wiki and it said otherwise so I edited it according to that. (if that is not correct, I blame wiki :D )
Also you missed the point. Yes you can still farm Lith and Meso relics on Derelict, but the same ones you can find on Earth,Venus,Mercury,Mars,Phobos,Ceres.
What I impied is that there should be relics exclusive to Derelict and the rest would be available in the rest of the Tier1/2 planets. Maybe all the Lith and Meso relics that start with D,E,R,L,C; and the Void would have V,O,T, N relics and the rest (F,G,H,K,A,B,C,S) could be found across the T1/T2 planets (depending on if it's Lith or Meso ofc)
And the same would apply to Kuva Fortress and the Tier 2/3 (Neo/Axi), 1/3 would be on regular planets, 1/3 would be on Kuva Furtress and 1/3 in the T3/T4 void.

[Shard of Manus]

Aye, I agree with the idea of them splitting up the reward pools. I spent about an hour farming for Lith Z1 yesterday for the last Zephyr part, and we got one Z1 relic only, and about 7-8 others.

Luckily the Radshare paid off.

[Loune]

I agree that there are too many relics on each tier.
Should enlarge the reward pool instead of relics pool

[Fire2box]

its only like this so people are more likely to buy prime acess stuff or plat to buy sets from others.

[No_Quarter]

well it is a F2P game and as such it is grindy but it is not the grindiest out there.

and not every T3 missions has all T3 relics so in a sense reward pool is not too big if you play one mission.
I wish we could get stuff easier but this economy system has been in game for years and I doubt there will be any changes to it. My justification is that game is fun and is not P2W so I can take more grinding

[AnonumusSoldier]

Originally posted by >:(:

There's no way farming traces and specific relics is better than the old void key system. This ♥♥♥♥ is cancer.

Then you never used key system. Yes farming Draco for 2 days to get ONE t4 survival key, then run it for 2 hrs just to get gold fusion cores EVERY GODAM ROTATION is so much better then getting a gaurentee prime part every run, can influence rng with refinement, pick your actual reward AND get the prime item you want without even having the relic for it.

How bout no?

Originally posted by Loune:

I agree that there are too many relics on each tier.
Should enlarge the reward pool instead of relics pool

This would then cause the rng to go UP as more rewards are added to relics and they then have to compete with drop chances, leading you to then come back here and make another thread about how rng is so terrible and DE should just let you pick what prime set you want as a reward when you login.

Seriously, do you people even stop to think before complaining or do you just complain off the top of your head because it's easier?

[DeapNight]

Maybe let ppl cose if they want a relic drop or a normal one?

So you get 2 rewards but you only can choose one like with opening a relic