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Minimo Mar 30, 2018 @ 11:06am
Corpus developed Warframe?
What if the Corpus' research on warframes yielded some solid results? Would we see a new frame 100% Corpus made? Would it look like a Gundam?

I was thinking about the concept the other day, about a remote-controlled Warframe that doesn't need void energy from the Tenno to work. Instead of channelling void to create its abilities, it would use technological gadgets, like particle canons or railguns and such. As it would be a Corpus frame, the visual style would be similar to their weapons and robots: blocky and geometric.

What would be your spin on a warframe developed by other factions?
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Walrus-Sama Apr 1, 2018 @ 12:36am 
Originally posted by massgunner32:
Originally posted by Walrus-Sama:

No, a Tenno is the Operator, a surviver of the Zariman 10-0 inccident (Hence Tenn-o).

A Warframe is a Mechanical Technocyte Golem. They do not need a Pilot to function, it's just that they act a little murdery and go berserk when uncontrolled. Their mind is a variant of the Technocyte after all, they only want to destroy and consume. It's just instinct to them. The reason they don't go berserk when the Operator leaves them now I believe is some sort of failsafe that locks the Warframe from acting when uncontrolled. Probably a wise move by to Orokin to stop Warframes turning when 'off'.

So, the Corpus/Grineer could construct a Warframe of sorts (the Orokin already did, so it's possible). It's just that controlling something of that power, near Demi-God levels, is very hard. And the only think powerful enough to power them is Void energy, which is extremely dangerious and unpredictable.

Warframes arent suposed to be an empty shell controlled by the tenno?

Nope, their Infested Monsters on the inside.

The Warframes were created first, in which they merged the Super Soldier and Techocyte projects to create Warframes. However, they had the same flaw the Technocyte had, they were uncontrollable beasts. Early experiments with Transference was to much for normal human Host so that project was put on ice.

Then, in a weird twist of fate, a ship disappeared into the Void for like a year and when it came back everyone was dead except the children who were corrupted and had gained extremely powerful Void ablitys. And in another merging of projects it was discovered the Tenno's altered form and power allowed them to successfuly Transfere into a Warframe and not die. And as an additinal bonus Warframe were capable of channeling the Void energy in a controled form and not getting destroyed in the process.

So now the Orokin have the most powerful soldier ever created, with the most powerful power source ever known, and they are all children who can be easily manipulated. The Orokin hit a gold mine.

Well, until their godlike super weapons turn on them that is. Bye bye Empire! :sohandsome:
No_Quarter (Banned) Apr 1, 2018 @ 12:39am 
Originally posted by anaphylactic god:
Originally posted by No_Quarter:

Making Corpus Warframe would raise questions how come the mastermind Alad V come to create such pathetic creature Zanuka compared to the Warframes that are pinacle of warfare?
Not to mention few other corpus bosses, just does not make sense....
not make sense ?
does kids sleeping on moon make any sense ?
does musician frame make any sense ?
orokin energy cells drop on ceres but dont drop in orokin void, you think that make any sence ?
devs cant be bothered to remove white traces on walls for wallrunning despite wallrunning was removed long time ago.
dont see why you cling so much to snipertron removal, it happened 5 years ago and its rather obvious even devs dont care about it anymore
or you failed to notice that Snipetron was returned so people come to test out PoE

point is there is lore in this game and while some things may not relate to real world - all things relate to each other in game. It is called world of Warframe, that's what many games do, create their own world that's not related to real one, at least for the most part....

get to know it before you open your mouth about it, but tbh, you did not talk about lore 1 word so far, just empty words of you not being able to understand it, and rejection to actually read 1 thing about it or watch 1 youtube video....

tho democracy learned us that your ignorance is as valuable as opinion of people here who really know the lore
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massgunner32 Apr 1, 2018 @ 12:42am 
Originally posted by Walrus-Sama:
Originally posted by massgunner32:

Warframes arent suposed to be an empty shell controlled by the tenno?

Nope, their Infested Monsters on the inside.

The Warframes were created first, in which they merged the Super Soldier and Techocyte projects to create Warframes. However, they had the same flaw the Technocyte had, they were uncontrollable beasts. Early experiments with Transference was to much for normal human Host so that project was put on ice.

Then, in a weird twist of fate, a ship disappeared into the Void for like a year and when it came back everyone was dead except the children who were corrupted and had gained extremely powerful Void ablitys. And in another merging of projects it was discovered the Tenno's altered form and power allowed them to successfuly Transfere into a Warframe and not die. And as an additinal bonus Warframe were capable of channeling the Void energy in a controled form and not getting destroyed in the process.

So now the Orokin have the most powerful soldier ever created, with the most powerful power source ever known, and they are all children who can be easily manipulated. The Orokin hit a gold mine.

Well, until their godlike super weapons turn on them that is. Bye bye Empire! :sohandsome:

ehm, warframes weren't created long after the tenno incident?
Scaredy Cat Apr 1, 2018 @ 12:46am 
Originally posted by massgunner32:
Originally posted by Walrus-Sama:

No, a Tenno is the Operator, a surviver of the Zariman 10-0 inccident (Hence Tenn-o).

A Warframe is a Mechanical Technocyte Golem. They do not need a Pilot to function, it's just that they act a little murdery and go berserk when uncontrolled. Their mind is a variant of the Technocyte after all, they only want to destroy and consume. It's just instinct to them. The reason they don't go berserk when the Operator leaves them now I believe is some sort of failsafe that locks the Warframe from acting when uncontrolled. Probably a wise move by to Orokin to stop Warframes turning when 'off'.

So, the Corpus/Grineer could construct a Warframe of sorts (the Orokin already did, so it's possible). It's just that controlling something of that power, near Demi-God levels, is very hard. And the only think powerful enough to power them is Void energy, which is extremely dangerious and unpredictable.

Warframes arent suposed to be an empty shell controlled by the tenno?

They are. They were developed by the orokin as an answer to the Sentient threat. Also, as shown in TSD or TWW (cant remember which) they can still operate on their own, although it seems like its a rare occurence.
Im not sure about he part of them going berserk when theyre not being controlled, seeing as that isnt what happened when it moved on its own in the quest.
Walrus-Sama Apr 1, 2018 @ 12:52am 
Originally posted by Scaredy Cat:
Im not sure about he part of them going berserk when theyre not being controlled, seeing as that isnt what happened when it moved on its own in the quest.

Rhino Prime Codex.
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[R] Nerva Apr 1, 2018 @ 12:54am 
Originally posted by massgunner32:
ehm, warframes weren't created long after the tenno incident?

Basically the Zariman Ten-Zero reappears from the Void, they find everyone on it missing except a bunch of kids, all of them with poorly controlled void-based superpowers. Those very same superpowers scare the absolute crap out of the Orokin because they defy all known laws of their super-science, and thus, are the one thing that could permanently kill an Orokin.

The Orokin Council of Executors wanted to put them to death, but Margulis intervened, negotiating with Executor Ballas to have the Tenno placed in Stasis within Transference chambers instead. For defying the Council, Margulis was executed, but they kept the Tenno at Ballas's insistence.

Then the Old War happened. All 'conventional' Orokin super-weapons failed against the Sentient invaders. Most of those weapons were consumed, subverted, or destroyed. Without any other options, the Orokin discovered that the Tenno, if allowed to Transfer into a Warframe (which was too organic for the Sentient to subvert), and armed with weapons too primitive for the Sentient to interact with (guns and blades), could fight the Sentient in a way no other soldier could, thanks to their Void-based powers. After all, the Void is utterly-lethal poison to the Sentient and even a small exposure is enough to render a Sentient sterile. This is what let the Orokin win the Old War - shame they didn't survive what happened next.
Walrus-Sama Apr 1, 2018 @ 12:59am 
Originally posted by massgunner32:
ehm, warframes weren't created long after the tenno incident?

Unclear, but it is implyed the Warframes were created before the idea of using Tenno Operators came up.
massgunner32 Apr 1, 2018 @ 1:03am 
Originally posted by Walrus-Sama:
Originally posted by Scaredy Cat:
Im not sure about he part of them going berserk when theyre not being controlled, seeing as that isnt what happened when it moved on its own in the quest.

Rhino Prime Codex.

What i only get is that the "tenno" inside the armor broke free from the corpus and started a mayhem valkyr-style, and it seems that the guy called davis believed to find where lotus hides the "tenno".
[R] Nerva Apr 1, 2018 @ 1:11am 
Originally posted by Walrus-Sama:
Unclear, but it is implyed the Warframes were created before the idea of using Tenno Operators came up.

From what I gather, they experimented with using technocyte golems to fight the Sentient, which...kinda worked. The Sentient couldn't subvert them, but they also couldn't be controlled - they rampaged as soon as they were set free from their restraints. The result was the Infestation ("An Orokin weapon, that backfired") which the Orokin managed to get back under wraps during the waning years of the Old War. Dr. Tengus of the Grineer would unwittingly unleash them again not long after the Tenno began reappearing in the Origin system.

Research into a way to control Technocyte golems lead to the creation of the Transference phenomenon, which allowed a being to basically 'possess' another remotely. Experiments in controlling technocyte golems with Transference (as detailed in the Rhino Prime codex) eventually lead to the creation of true Warframes - Technocyte golems that served to amplify and channel Void powers for their operators, supplied Void energy by the Transference of the Tenno in control over them.

Warframes can be Operated by non-Tenno (look at The Silver Grove and Titania), but it's far more difficult for them to do, they can't do it without a Transference chamber, and mistakes can happen. These mistakes can lead to unintentional possession or damage to one's mind or sense of self.

Originally posted by massgunner32:
What i only get is that the "tenno" inside the armor broke free from the corpus and started a mayhem valkyr-style, and it seems that the guy called davis believed to find where lotus hides the "tenno".

The Rhino Prime codex takes place before the creation of Excalibur, during the experiments to control Technocyte Golems with Transference. Davis and his colleague find themselves on the recieving end of an experiment gone awry - a Technocyte golem run amok, smashing and eating guards and intending to consume them.

They retreated into the room where the Tenno were being held in stasis, only for the Transference to finally take hold, stopping the rampaging golem and leaving it looking on in horror at its blood-soaked hands as a new mind settles into control over the body. This was the first successful Transference experiment on a Technocyte golem, and the first step toward the creation of Warframes.
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anaphylactic god Apr 1, 2018 @ 1:24am 
Originally posted by R Nerva:
Originally posted by anaphylactic god:
does kids sleeping on moon make any sense ?
They were dreaming in Transference chambers, which was necessary for them to remote-control the Warframes we play as from the Resevoir on the Moon. They had to be put there to keep them safe from the Sentient, since the Moon was shunted into the Void where Sentients can't follow. This is explained in the damn quest if you pay attention.

does musician frame make any sense ?
Octavia's gift was rhythm and timing - a Warframe based around music is a logical extension of that. She quite literally orchestrated the assassination of the Orokin executors.

orokin energy cells drop on ceres but dont drop in orokin void, you think that make any sence ?
Notice where you find Orokin Cells - in a Grineer shipyard excavated out of a planetoid, and on planets where Orokin Technology is being plundered. You don't find cells in the void because it's still in pristine condition - nobody has time to dig the cells out of the walls and floors because they get Corrupted by the Neural Sentry on entry.

devs cant be bothered to remove white traces on walls for wallrunning despite wallrunning was removed long time ago.
This would almost be a point... except that they now serve as suggestions where walljumping and other parkour moves are useful. They're still placed in the various obstacle course vaults in the Void and Derelicts to serve as hints as to where to go next and what you need to do to get there.

Do you even bother to look at the lore you're criticizing? 'Cuz making these shallow, poorly-reasoned claims aren't helping your point any.
dude wtf
i think you fooling around on porpuse just becouse you dont want to admit i was right.
Walrus-Sama Apr 1, 2018 @ 1:24am 
Originally posted by massgunner32:
Originally posted by Walrus-Sama:

Rhino Prime Codex.

What i only get is that the "tenno" inside the armor broke free from the corpus and started a mayhem valkyr-style, and it seems that the guy called davis believed to find where lotus hides the "tenno".

There is no Tenno inside the exoskeleton. It is not a suit. It is an Armored Technocyte construct. The inside is both mechanical and biological, housed inside an armored exoskeleton. Warframes breath and bleed. They do not sleep, they never get tired.

And that was not Corpus, those were Orokin, people who worked on the Warframes. The Rhino Prime codex appears to be when they first had the idea of using Tenno Operators.
Last edited by Walrus-Sama; Apr 1, 2018 @ 1:27am
massgunner32 Apr 1, 2018 @ 1:31am 
Originally posted by R Nerva:
Originally posted by Walrus-Sama:
Unclear, but it is implyed the Warframes were created before the idea of using Tenno Operators came up.

From what I gather, they experimented with using technocyte golems to fight the Sentient, which...kinda worked. The Sentient couldn't subvert them, but they also couldn't be controlled - they rampaged as soon as they were set free from their restraints. The result was the Infestation ("An Orokin weapon, that backfired") which the Orokin managed to get back under wraps during the waning years of the Old War. Dr. Tengus of the Grineer would unwittingly unleash them again not long after the Tenno began reappearing in the Origin system.

Research into a way to control Technocyte golems lead to the creation of the Transference phenomenon, which allowed a being to basically 'possess' another remotely. Experiments in controlling technocyte golems with Transference (as detailed in the Rhino Prime codex) eventually lead to the creation of true Warframes - Technocyte golems that served to amplify and channel Void powers for their operators, supplied Void energy by the Transference of the Tenno in control over them.

Warframes can be Operated by non-Tenno (look at The Silver Grove and Titania), but it's far more difficult for them to do, they can't do it without a Transference chamber, and mistakes can happen. These mistakes can lead to unintentional possession or damage to one's mind or sense of self.

Originally posted by massgunner32:
What i only get is that the "tenno" inside the armor broke free from the corpus and started a mayhem valkyr-style, and it seems that the guy called davis believed to find where lotus hides the "tenno".

The Rhino Prime codex takes place before the creation of Excalibur, during the experiments to control Technocyte Golems with Transference. Davis and his colleague find themselves on the recieving end of an experiment gone awry - a Technocyte golem run amok, smashing and eating guards and intending to consume them.

They retreated into the room where the Tenno were being held in stasis, only for the Transference to finally take hold, stopping the rampaging golem and leaving it looking on in horror at its blood-soaked hands as a new mind settles into control over the body. This was the first successful Transference experiment on a Technocyte golem, and the first step toward the creation of Warframes.

If the technocyte golems agressive behaviour holds true, why the warframe becomes a potato during the second dream and war within out of body moments?
Walrus-Sama Apr 1, 2018 @ 1:38am 
Originally posted by massgunner32:
If the technocyte golems agressive behaviour holds true, why the warframe becomes a potato during the second dream and war within out of body moments?

Unclear, but:

Originally posted by Walrus-Sama:
I believe there is some sort of failsafe that locks the Warframe from acting when uncontrolled. Probably a wise move by to Orokin to stop Warframes turning when 'off'.
massgunner32 Apr 1, 2018 @ 1:47am 
Originally posted by Walrus-Sama:
Originally posted by massgunner32:
If the technocyte golems agressive behaviour holds true, why the warframe becomes a potato during the second dream and war within out of body moments?

Unclear, but:

Originally posted by Walrus-Sama:
I believe there is some sort of failsafe that locks the Warframe from acting when uncontrolled. Probably a wise move by to Orokin to stop Warframes turning when 'off'.

How tenno managed to replicate such a failsafe if they didn't know about transference until the second dream? non-prime versions of the warframes are tenno attempts to recreate the orokin technology but even them lost the knowledge to create such advanced armors.
Walrus-Sama Apr 1, 2018 @ 2:09am 
Originally posted by massgunner32:
Originally posted by Walrus-Sama:

Unclear, but:

How tenno managed to replicate such a failsafe if they didn't know about transference until the second dream? non-prime versions of the warframes are tenno attempts to recreate the orokin technology but even them lost the knowledge to create such advanced armors.

Everything is built from Blueprints, and the thing that actualy builds our stuff is an Orokin era Orbiter controlled by a Cephalon who may or may not have been an Orokin himself. His duty is to protect the Operator, I'm guessing a built-in failsafe would be mandatory for him.
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