Arcane guardian

[Sparkz]

Is a tanky ash viable?

[Ͽ҈҉Ͼ]

Base armor of 65, so not really. You can get his health up decently, but even with heavy modding his armor will not be high enough to really facetank enemies like a Frost or Rhino.

[vid23]

with a maxed arcane you get 600 armor so yes, its possible to make him tanky, but you still die quickly compared to something like a Valkyr who alredy has an insane amount of base armor

[Sparkz]

Ash prime has a base armor of 150

[SomoneSuspicious]

well you can give it a try, at 1200 armor you get roughly 80% dmg reduction... Ash has high health so it might work out if you use steel fiber on top of that but that's a wasted mod slot imo :P
Anyways, if you search for warframe armor calculator you will find a few that will also tell you your effective hp

[Ashley]

600 armor increases his eHP multiplier by 2.0 flat, regardless of the frame you use.
Problem is: It's unreliable. If you don't get an early proc, it can be much less.
It's still helpful, but don't expect to tank a whole lot.

[No_Quarter]

it is viable even if your base armor is 0, it is cheap to max it and it can help you sustain a lot more.
cheese warfrmaes become semi-durable and somewhat forgiving so you do not die of one shot, while durable warframes become walking tanks.

good thing is tha taking damage to shields can trigger it so a tip for making Arcane Guardian more reliable would be not to overextend your self (aka not yolo too hard) and always try to have some shields. That at least for less durable warframes where you do not have too many shots to spare to trigger it. So disengaging to recharge shields, even 300 shield can make a difference in reliablity to trigger the arcane guardian, you will get the dynamics with 20 second duration.

I use it on Nekros Prime for solo kuva suurvival, with Shield Of Shadows it stacks to pretty damn good damage reduction (too lazy to do forma for Health Conversion).
I really cannot see it being bad on any warframe (apart from full stealth) as it lets you risk a bit more

[Walrus-Sama]

No. Ash is a Stealth Frame not a Tank.

He's N i n j a B o i

[Sparkz]

Tanky ninja

[Make clash permanent]

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Tanky ninja

Shen did it. And he's a doctor.

[Walrus-Sama]

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Tanky ninja

Ash has access to the most over powered survivablity method; Invisibility.

He does not need to tank.

[Incunabulum]

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Is a tanky ash viable?

'Tank' here is just someone who can take a lot of damage - not someone who can hold aggro.

As such, pretty much all frames can tank - most of us must 'evasion tank' though. Ash can invisibility tank. Others can CC tank.

If you want a frame that can stand there and be shot at - no, Ash is not that frame.

[Maverick Mullah]

Just put arcane trickery on him and arcane guardian, you'll meme everything.