Is there A reason Not to take Limbo Over Harrow in Eidolon hunt?

[Dan brDorman]

Im curious, While Harrow Can give crits and such For Chroma to deal his full blow of damage, But Limbo can do so much more to help thanks to his abilities.

Cataclysm Is a better version for Avoiding the Magnetic Proc, Not to mention Can easily Recharge energy for Your teammates, And avoid Most of the Eidolon Damage Throughout the fight.

Cataclysm Also Doesn't allow Operators to enter it, Making it Fairly Easy to damage the Eidolon And still remain safe after being downed.

Last but not least, Cataclysm With Statis Combined Can Stop Eidolon's From healing themselves in the final stage, Leaving them With Fewer Health.

Any Reason why Harrow is still being picked over him?

[Dan brDorman]

引用自 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯：

I wouldn't said he is bad for eidolon hunt but the reason we don't ususally see him is because meta already set in and people choose harrow because for the most part harrow is kind of fool proof and good for new player who just start eidolon hunt.
Other reason that i can think of is because the team composition,most eidolon hunt team cosist of

1.Rhino/Chroma for damage buff
2.Volt for shield crit
3.Trinity or Oberon for heal
for the 4th role, if team got Oberon,he already can magnetic protection so people would either go another damage buff , if team got trinity then most of player would go harrow because he can fill the role of magnetic protection and damage buff.In good team that look for get as many tridolon as possible,limbo is unpopular because his energy regen can't keep up with team speed and people don't usaully going down anyway,and for team that have new player,as i said harrow is more fool proof choice because new player not usually understand how limbo work.
He isn't bad frame for eidolon hunt per say,he just happend to be in unfortunate spot of struggle to find people/team he appeal to.

I doubt Limbo is really that hard to play in the first place, Sure there are some ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ who can ruin a good Tridolon Cap, But Limbo really only need to do is Use cataclysm when Eidolon Shield is up, When magnetic Proc is up And when Eidolon Enter the healing Phase.

Limbo can do more than what Harrow can do for the team.

[Xengre]

引用自 Dan brDorman：

引用自 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯：

I wouldn't said he is bad for eidolon hunt but the reason we don't ususally see him is because meta already set in and people choose harrow because for the most part harrow is kind of fool proof and good for new player who just start eidolon hunt.
Other reason that i can think of is because the team composition,most eidolon hunt team cosist of

1.Rhino/Chroma for damage buff
2.Volt for shield crit
3.Trinity or Oberon for heal
for the 4th role, if team got Oberon,he already can magnetic protection so people would either go another damage buff , if team got trinity then most of player would go harrow because he can fill the role of magnetic protection and damage buff.In good team that look for get as many tridolon as possible,limbo is unpopular because his energy regen can't keep up with team speed and people don't usaully going down anyway,and for team that have new player,as i said harrow is more fool proof choice because new player not usually understand how limbo work.
He isn't bad frame for eidolon hunt per say,he just happend to be in unfortunate spot of struggle to find people/team he appeal to.

I doubt Limbo is really that hard to play in the first place, Sure there are some ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ who can ruin a good Tridolon Cap, But Limbo really only need to do is Use cataclysm when Eidolon Shield is up, When magnetic Proc is up And when Eidolon Enter the healing Phase.

Limbo can do more than what Harrow can do for the team.

I still am missing the point. I haven't played much in a while but you can still avoid EVERYTHING in operator void mode right? This would render Limbo totally pointless for stopping magnetic procs, etc, when you already can with any frame's operator. I'm not even sure why people bother with Harrow tbh. Haven't done the newest Eidolons but unless they are truly waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay the freek tankier a Chroma with a sniper is enough to 1-shot them without ANY outside buffs and he wont die to the Eidolon anyways. Just need people to strip shields and wipe sentient mini mobs, handle lures, etc.

[Omnipresent Oatmeal]

引用自 Xengre：

you can still avoid EVERYTHING in operator void mode right?

Yes.

引用自 Xengre：

I'm not even sure why people bother with Harrow tbh.

Because a single Chroma won't be enough to quickly kill the Hydrolyst's limbs.
Harrow allows the entire team to get invulnerability and then give more crit chance to the Chroma, meaning that the Chroma can remain effective. The rest of the team can also then do more damage to the limbs.

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Harrow can give crits and CC the vomvalysts

[Xengre]

引用自 Omnipresent Oatmeal：

引用自 Xengre：

you can still avoid EVERYTHING in operator void mode right?

Yes.

引用自 Xengre：

I'm not even sure why people bother with Harrow tbh.

Because a single Chroma won't be enough to quickly kill the Hydrolyst's limbs.
Harrow allows the entire team to get invulnerability and then give more crit chance to the Chroma, meaning that the Chroma can remain effective. The rest of the team can also then do more damage to the limbs.

Are you sure? It would have to be around 15-30x tankier than the standard Teralyst for me to need further buffing to kill a limb in more than one shot and I don't even have a good riven on my Rubico (not even a crit riven, just a solid reload/dmg riven). Last time I tested I 1-shot teralyst with no extra buffs very easy every time and hit 10-20m+ on lv 135 armored mobs in simul.

EDIT: Wiki has its HP and it is barely tankier than Teralyst. Could easily 1-shot with a subpar riven without any buffs. No idea why ppl want Harrow so bad then.

[Spook]

引用自 Xengre：

EDIT: Wiki has its HP and it is barely tankier than Teralyst. Could easily 1-shot with a subpar riven without any buffs. No idea why ppl want Harrow so bad then.

As someone who would 2-shot limbs at solo Volt back when I was actually willing to play this crap, I've always just assumed that people want all of these excessive buffs because they don't HAVE good enough weapons.

[Xengre]

引用自 Spook：

引用自 Xengre：

EDIT: Wiki has its HP and it is barely tankier than Teralyst. Could easily 1-shot with a subpar riven without any buffs. No idea why ppl want Harrow so bad then.

As someone who would 2-shot limbs at solo Volt back when I was actually willing to play this crap, I've always just assumed that people want all of these excessive buffs because they don't HAVE good enough weapons.

Might be.

[post apocalypse otter boi]

I would assume it is because Oberon is there to stop the mag procs so there is no need for a limbo, and harrow's damage boost is more important.

[primobrainlet]

引用自 Punished_Penguini：

I would assume it is because Oberon is there to stop the mag procs so there is no need for a limbo, and harrow's damage boost is more important.

oberon can also take trinitie's role as the healer if done right, and can even buff allies to have even more radiation damage with smite infusion