Community commemoration: DE's tribute to TotalBiscuit

[Psychedelic Adventurer]

Hi guys.

First off it's been truly heartwarming to see you all coming together to pay tribute to John Bain - AKA TotalBiscuit, who in no small part contributed to the success Warframe is now. Larunda Relay has been packed all day with Tenno wishing to pay thier respects.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1394313381
Now in turn, I thought it might be a good idea to discuss what sort of commeration people would like to see added into Warframe.

Here are a few ideas:

The ability to buy a Badge/decal/sigil to donate towards cancer research, or even just a symbol of solidarity.

When we rebuild one of the relays, it being call 'Bain Relay'. (Not my idea, but I like the concept).

A memorial hall in the relays, similar to the founders list, where players can pay their respects.

Just a few ideas, be sure to give some ideas down below. Be sure to keep TB's wife and step-son in your hearts. If there is a god, I hope TB is roasting him about them low-res heaven textures.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1394042185

[AnaLoGMunKy]

Originally posted by Psychedelic Adventurer:

The ability buy a Badge/decal/sigil to donate towards cancer research, or even just a symbol of solidarity.

This gets my vote

[Skelos]

Originally posted by AnaLoGMunKy:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Adventurer:

The ability buy a Badge/decal/sigil to donate towards cancer research, or even just a symbol of solidarity.

This gets my vote

Gets my vote as well

[Makoto Naegi]

Originally posted by AnaLoGMunKy:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Adventurer:

The ability buy a Badge/decal/sigil to donate towards cancer research, or even just a symbol of solidarity.

This gets my vote

Same. Best way to pay tribute IMO, buy something to honor his memory while contributing to the cause against what took his life.

[Sceles]

TB had almost nothing to do with Warframe, he might've done a video about it a couple of times but that's all. Are we going to have some sort of tribute for every dead streamer/youtuber now? What about all the smaller streamers who will never get a tribute? What about people who've spent thousands of hours on Warframe, people who are not streamers or youtubers? All of these people are humans too and cancer is not exactly an uncommon issue. Even now I'm sure there are plenty of Warframe players who are fighting against cancer, people way more dedicated to the game than TB.

Don't get me wrong, I am sad to see him go. This just seems like a horrible idea. I do think that raising cancer awareness is good though, this is just not the time to do it. I don't think TB would've appreciated it if we made a big deal out of his death specifically when so many are suffering from the same disease.

[DeapNight]

Originally posted by Sceles:

TB had almost nothing to do with Warframe, he might've done a video about it a couple of times but that's all. Are we going to have some sort of tribute for every dead streamer/youtuber now? What about all the smaller streamers who will never get a tribute? What about people who've spent thousands of hours of Warframe, people who are not streamers or youtubers? All of these people are humans too and cancer is not exactly an uncommon issue. Even now I'm sure there are plenty of Warframe players who are fighting against cancer, people way more dedicated to the game than TB.

Don't get me wrong, I am sad to see him go. This just seems like a horrible idea. I do think that raising cancer awareness is good though, this is just not the time to do it. I don't think TB would've appreciated it if we made a big deal out of his death specifically when so many are suffering from the same disease.

+1

[YamaTsunami]

Originally posted by Sceles:

TB had almost nothing to do with Warframe, he might've done a video about it a couple of times but that's all. Are we going to have some sort of tribute for every dead streamer/youtuber now? What about all the smaller streamers who will never get a tribute? What about people who've spent thousands of hours on Warframe, people who are not streamers or youtubers? All of these people are humans too and cancer is not exactly an uncommon issue. Even now I'm sure there are plenty of Warframe players who are fighting against cancer, people way more dedicated to the game than TB.

Don't get me wrong, I am sad to see him go. This just seems like a horrible idea. I do think that raising cancer awareness is good though, this is just not the time to do it. I don't think TB would've appreciated it if we made a big deal out of his death specifically when so many are suffering from the same disease.

you can't make a tribute for everyone, doing this is better than doing nothing

[Walrus-Sama]

Originally posted by Sceles:

TB had almost nothing to do with Warframe, he might've done a video about it a couple of times but that's all. Are we going to have some sort of tribute for every dead streamer/youtuber now? What about all the smaller streamers who will never get a tribute? What about people who've spent thousands of hours on Warframe, people who are not streamers or youtubers? All of these people are humans too and cancer is not exactly an uncommon issue. Even now I'm sure there are plenty of Warframe players who are fighting against cancer, people way more dedicated to the game than TB.

Don't get me wrong, I am sad to see him go. This just seems like a horrible idea. I do think that raising cancer awareness is good though, this is just not the time to do it. I don't think TB would've appreciated it if we made a big deal out of his death specifically when so many are suffering from the same disease.

I agree.

[Jmthebigman]

Originally posted by Sceles:

TB had almost nothing to do with Warframe, he might've done a video about it a couple of times but that's all. Are we going to have some sort of tribute for every dead streamer/youtuber now? What about all the smaller streamers who will never get a tribute? What about people who've spent thousands of hours on Warframe, people who are not streamers or youtubers? All of these people are humans too and cancer is not exactly an uncommon issue. Even now I'm sure there are plenty of Warframe players who are fighting against cancer, people way more dedicated to the game than TB.

Don't get me wrong, I am sad to see him go. This just seems like a horrible idea. I do think that raising cancer awareness is good though, this is just not the time to do it. I don't think TB would've appreciated it if we made a big deal out of his death specifically when so many are suffering from the same disease.

Honestly I think more a memorial sale for some ribbon or avatar or cosmetic that is sold in his honor for what he done for the gaming community and that the funds it creates would be donated to Cancer research. Id bet he would be proud of that

[Typisch]

he had alot to do with warframes early days

[Psychedelic Adventurer]

Originally posted by Sceles:

TB had almost nothing to do with Warframe, he might've done a video about it a couple of times but that's all. Are we going to have some sort of tribute for every dead streamer/youtuber now? What about all the smaller streamers who will never get a tribute? What about people who've spent thousands of hours on Warframe, people who are not streamers or youtubers? All of these people are humans too and cancer is not exactly an uncommon issue. Even now I'm sure there are plenty of Warframe players who are fighting against cancer, people way more dedicated to the game than TB.

Don't get me wrong, I am sad to see him go. This just seems like a horrible idea. I do think that raising cancer awareness is good though, this is just not the time to do it. I don't think TB would've appreciated it if we made a big deal out of his death specifically when so many are suffering from the same disease.

"There are no words to describe the impact this man had on Warframe. Overwhelming sadness and sympathies to his loved ones."
Straight from Ford herself. His interactions with Warframe helped build the game whether you will admit it or not.

There is no assurency of equity in this world. People care about him more than others because he was more public than others. No one has said there was a manopoly on grief, and the fact remains that TB was a titan of the industry; this is not just about Warframe, this is about remembering someone who had considerable impact on how games are thought about as a medium. And if people want to commerate him, I cannot think of a reason why they shouldn't.

And why in the world do you think you would have known what TB would have wanted?

[Mysteron 108]

Originally posted by Sceles:

TB had almost nothing to do with Warframe, he might've done a video about it a couple of times but that's all. Are we going to have some sort of tribute for every dead streamer/youtuber now? What about all the smaller streamers who will never get a tribute? What about people who've spent thousands of hours on Warframe, people who are not streamers or youtubers? All of these people are humans too and cancer is not exactly an uncommon issue. Even now I'm sure there are plenty of Warframe players who are fighting against cancer, people way more dedicated to the game than TB.

X1000

[vid23]

Originally posted by Psychedelic Adventurer:

The ability buy a Badge/decal/sigil to donate towards cancer research, or even just a symbol of solidarity.

When we rebuild one of the relays, it being call 'Bain Relay'. (Not my idea, but I like the concept).

A memorial hall in the relays, similar to the founders list, where players can pay their respects. Header text

its alredy a thing, and always was a thing[www.warframe.com] also, i think naming a relay, or anything out of the ordinary would be a bit too much, as people said above, people fight with cancer everywhere, he wasnt the only one, and he wont be the last warframe player who died from cancer, and giving a tribute like naming a relay after him is kinda rude since there are a lot of people who alredy died/will die and they wont get anything simply because they arent famous, its just not fair to them, people shouldnt care about him more than a common player who also also plays warframe, every human is equal, some people work their ass off and spend a tremendous amount of money in the game, but if they die, nobody going to remember, i think, its alredy a huge tribute what the warframe community did, just remember to him, missing him etc, this is something what most of the people never going to get

[Psychedelic Adventurer]

Originally posted by vid23:

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I won't be adressing this argument anymore, for the sake of this thread.

Suffice to say, as I said above, there is never going to be equity on grief. You are propositioning a certain ethical argument which I'm not even sure I agree with, however, as DE has stated already TB has done a considerble amount for the industry, and I'm hoping he will be recognised for that. It's that simple.

And yes, I agree the relay might be a bit overkill, it was simply a suggestion that was popular among others.

[Ashley]

Originally posted by Sceles:

TB had almost nothing to do with Warframe, he might've done a video about it a couple of times but that's all. Are we going to have some sort of tribute for every dead streamer/youtuber now? What about all the smaller streamers who will never get a tribute? What about people who've spent thousands of hours on Warframe, people who are not streamers or youtubers? All of these people are humans too and cancer is not exactly an uncommon issue. Even now I'm sure there are plenty of Warframe players who are fighting against cancer, people way more dedicated to the game than TB.

Don't get me wrong, I am sad to see him go. This just seems like a horrible idea. I do think that raising cancer awareness is good though, this is just not the time to do it. I don't think TB would've appreciated it if we made a big deal out of his death specifically when so many are suffering from the same disease.

During an interview with No Clip, Rebecca heavily implied that he was the reason the Warframe Beta got popular. He was not just some random content creator. Apparently, they owe him a lot.

On the topic at hand:
I really, really want some display art that I can put on my orbiter.
I want to keep this personal, not travel to some relay.

That does not mean I am against any of the suggestions.
They could build an entire solar system after him and I'd be fine with it.
I just want my display art.

[Psychedelic Adventurer]

Another (additional) idea that's just been given to me. The blizzard method when people want to commerate something is to build some sort of memomorial, or name an NPC after them. I'm cool with both.