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♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ 24 apr, 2018 @ 16:23
[LORE] Are the Warframes sentient? (Sentient as in self-aware)
From the way Lotus talks about the frames, they almost seem like old family members to her. Chroma is a good example.

Senast ändrad av ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥; 24 apr, 2018 @ 16:37
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Ursprungligen skrivet av [R] Nerva:
Okay folks, here's the answer, not gonna bother with spoiler-tags since nobody else is bothering to spoiler-tag their text.

Warframes are golems. Artificial living entities made from 'tame' infestation material augmented with void-powered technology. Without an Operator, they are capable of independent action, and some are even sapient enough to speak. For proof, look at the Specter guards in the Silver Grove, the speaking Specters that guard the Solar Rail junctions, and the Rhino Prime codex entry, which is what happens when a prototype pre-Warframe doesn't get properly controlled right away. You can also look at the Warframe specters we utilize - those are capable of moving and fighting (if a bit badly), and aware enough to tell friend from foe. They're otherwise identical to the Operator-controlled Warframe they're cloned from (and note, even the game specifically uses the term 'cloned.')

Specters demonstrate enough self-awareness to be capable of long-term task management. For instance, at the end of the Glast Gambit, opting to cure Neewa of her disease has the Lotus station a regiment of Specter guards to protect her people from the Infestation that they live near. Given that Neewa doesn't seem to mind this and actually seems hopeful, it can be assumed that they continue to do a good job about it. Guard duty might seem simple, but keeping a place safe from an enemy that numerous and that rapacious is no mean feat. During the Glast Gambit quest, you get to see what potential guards would have to go through on the very first mission.

With an Operator, Warframes typically demonstrate no separate awareness. When separated from their Operator's Transference signal, they either go limp or simply become immobile. It's hard to tell whether this is because of some mechanism to lock their motor functions when an Operator isn't available to control them, or because they simply have no separate sentience.

There are potential hints that Operator-controlled Warframes have their own awareness. For instance, Helminth refers to them as 'Master' when you visit him in his chamber, but if you visit him as your Operator, he calls you "void demon" and expresses alarm, as if he has an amicable relationship as the servant of your Warframes, but is terrified of your Operator, expressing disbelief that your Operator is awake. This means that he sees your Operator and Warframes as separate people, though admittedly that could be just ignorance on his part about how Warframes work and not evidence that they actually are. There's also a moment, during the Second Dream, where your Warframe seemingly acts of its own volition to free itself from its impalement and protect you; though whether that was actually the Warframe's own volition, and not some form of remote control from the Operator is uncertain.

Probably the most telling is one is a specific line from your Operator, if you have operator lines turned on. When your Warframe goes down and you spend a revive, your Operator may say "Up, Warframe!" in a commanding tone. This is the only case I know where your Operator directly addresses the Warframe he or she is operating.

All in all, the answer to whether Warframes are independently aware is likely "yes." Now, as to whether they're self-aware, or sapient, that's more questionable. There could be multiple answers, depending on whether it's a Warframe Specter, or Operator-controlled. We'll have to see.
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M4tt 24 apr, 2018 @ 16:28 
Nope. And I wont explain that further to you.
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Wintermute 24 apr, 2018 @ 16:31 
Kinda. It's more animalistic mind than actual sentience though.

Rest is SPOILERS.
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M4tt 24 apr, 2018 @ 16:33 
Ursprungligen skrivet av Wintermute:
Kinda. It's more animalistic mind than actual sentience though.

Rest is SPOILERS.
Also nope. Sentients are able to regenerate and adapt from damage received. Warframes cannot.
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Tesper 24 apr, 2018 @ 16:34 
Void energy + Sentients = harm
Zariman Ten-0 survivors (Tenno) + Void energy = Warframes

So therefore Sentients ≠ Warframes

Also the only possible way of a Sentient to currently get healed is through Kuva, and that's not what's happening with Warframes.
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Heatnixx 24 apr, 2018 @ 16:35 
I assume she talks about the first operator of each warframe.

Also, OP is talking about SENTIENCE not the SENTIENTS faction
Senast ändrad av Heatnixx; 24 apr, 2018 @ 16:35
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♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ 24 apr, 2018 @ 16:37 
Ursprungligen skrivet av M4tt:
Ursprungligen skrivet av Wintermute:
Kinda. It's more animalistic mind than actual sentience though.

Rest is SPOILERS.
Also nope. Sentients are able to regenerate and adapt from damage received. Warframes cannot.

Sorry, I should have clarified. I mean 'sentient' as in are they 'self-aware', not the Sentients related to the eidolons.
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[R] Nerva 24 apr, 2018 @ 16:37 
Warframes can utilize Sentient-based components, equipment, and armaments (remember Hunhow's lines about "making weapons from our bones" and the fact that War is a perfectly usable Heavy Blade) but are not Sentients themselves.

They are more closely related to Infestation than anything else.

As far as Warframe self-awareness, it's debatable. They don't show much independence when separated from the Operator, but Helminth is known to communicate with them in some way in order to serve them - he refers to them as "masters" and yet calls Tenno "void demons" after all - and there was that incident in the Second Dream where the Warframe acted seemingly of its own volition; though whether that was some remote command or actual independence is unclear.
Senast ändrad av [R] Nerva; 24 apr, 2018 @ 16:39
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Tesper 24 apr, 2018 @ 16:39 
Ursprungligen skrivet av Heatnixx:
I assume she talks about the first operator of each warframe.

Also, OP is talking about SENTIENCE not the SENTIENTS faction
If that's the case, still no, Warframes are hollow shells without an Operator (even Hunhow says that they have no instincts nor anything without an Operator in the ending of the Second Dream).
Now for Umbra Frames in the other hand.......
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M4tt 24 apr, 2018 @ 16:51 
Ursprungligen skrivet av based grandpa:
Ursprungligen skrivet av M4tt:
Also nope. Sentients are able to regenerate and adapt from damage received. Warframes cannot.

Sorry, I should have clarified. I mean 'sentient' as in are they 'self-aware', not the Sentients related to the eidolons.
Infested are more or less self-aware. Warframes are lobotomized.
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massgunner32 24 apr, 2018 @ 16:55 
Nope, warframes are armor, the tenno inside it is what counts, most adventure related warframes are tenno identified by the armor they wore, like Inaros or Titania.
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Erebus 24 apr, 2018 @ 17:03 
"(Sentient as in self-aware)"

It's sad this has to be specified.
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hypster 24 apr, 2018 @ 17:06 
Warframes all are kind of like Ben 10 heroes. They come from other parts of the universe yet can be summoned and controlled by the Tenno at will, like an Omnitrix.

There ya go
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massgunner32 24 apr, 2018 @ 17:12 
Ursprungligen skrivet av hypster(furry hunter):
Warframes all are kind of like Ben 10 heroes. They come from other parts of the universe yet can be summoned and controlled by the Tenno at will, like an Omnitrix.

There ya go

There are many things wrong with this Quote.
Senast ändrad av massgunner32; 24 apr, 2018 @ 17:15
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The Jagji 24 apr, 2018 @ 17:23 
If you have not done The Seconed Dream Quest, then you need to play that, then get back to us. :P

Ursprungligen skrivet av massgunner32:
Ursprungligen skrivet av hypster(furry hunter):
Warframes all are kind of like Ben 10 heroes. They come from other parts of the universe yet can be summoned and controlled by the Tenno at will, like an Omnitrix.

There ya go

There are many things wrong with this Quote.

And yet, it is kind of accurate. lol
Senast ändrad av The Jagji; 24 apr, 2018 @ 17:23
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Tesper 24 apr, 2018 @ 17:24 
Ursprungligen skrivet av hypster(furry hunter):
Warframes all are kind of like Ben 10 heroes. They come from other parts of the universe yet can be summoned and controlled by the Tenno at will, like an Omnitrix.

There ya go
Warframes don't come from different parts of the universe, they all have the same creators, the Orokin, that only inhabited the Origin System (solar system).
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