Can we just all accept that Warframe's soundtrack sucks?

[Pusheen]

DE apologists will fawn over their beloved game and insist that their composer can do no wrong.
But it's a matter of fact that Keith Powers isn't Jesper Kyd (of Assassin's Creed and Hitman's fame), Mick Gordon (DOOM), Lord Simon Viklund (Payday) or even ZUN (Touhou).
Warframe's soundtrack is mediocre at best and auditory garbage at worst.

[Frimble]

Honestly, he's not wrong. Doing a bad job of explaining it, but most of the music in this game is pretty "meh" other than maybe the more spoilery songs like second dream and this is what you are. When you're actually going through missions ingame it's all just drums and sounds more like the soundtrack of a generic futuristic war movie. None of them are all that memorable.
That being said, soundtrack is something that can keep me playing a game even if it's trash. The fact that I sunk so many hours into warframe despite its unmemorable songs just shows how great it is to play.
I can only imagine how much more time I would've spent on it if the soundtrack was actually good.

[Pusheen]

Originally posted by JCTiger0:

Originally posted by OUIIJM GUIITPS:

https://youtu.be/a6BbvCC0VI0 Sorry, I think Mick Gordon has him beaten

generic, edgy, repetative. that about sums it up. my review of this music (first time lisening to it) is that it's okay to moderite and won't transition well into any other music so it's bad for game music inless the whole level is as intens as the music or you find some way to magicaly transiton it to calmer music. warframe music is mostly okay to moderite with some great music so if thats the best doom music you can come up with warframes got doom beat.

DOOM has a variable mix system so the music is calmer when there's less action and more frantic in intense combat sequence.

No such system exists (or exist in very limited quantity) in Warframe so you have combat music blaring during long treks without enemies or quiet music during battles.

[Ishawi1996]

The only music in this game i like most is the Void’s. Everywhere is boring compare it. I listen to my own music when i play this game. I know Doom 2016’s Welcome to hell music might fit this game’s pace.

[Pusheen]

Also, LOL @ how everyone refers to exactly 1 track in the entire game to prove that "Warframe Soundtrack is good too".

"This is what you are" is the definition of "A broken clock is still right twice a day".

[fun time hippie]

Originally posted by Pusheen:

Also, LOL @ how everyone refers to exactly 1 track in the entire game to prove that "Warframe Soundtrack is good too".

"This is what you are" is the definition of "A broken clock is still right twice a day".

dont mind my post refencing 7 specfic songs. just ignore that

[OH]

mick gordon is literally the only good example you gave

[Biddion]

Some of the music I like, particularly the synthwave type tracks.

[Sithis]

I'd say, some of the 'ambient' mission music here isn't anything notable, but there are many separate tracks that (at least, to me) sound downright great.

As for examples - I love a lot of Mick Gordon's works, but not all of them; Assasins' Creed's music I never held as something spectacular, though; Viklund's work for payday includes some great tracks, but also (again, personal opinion) completely forgettable and mediocre tracks, and I honestly have never played nor even heard music from Touhou.

Personally, my opinion is, _unlike_ just listening to music for the sake of listening to it, in videogames, half the work isn't even on the composer as much as on fitting music to visuals. This is why some games' tracks, despite not being impossible awesome on their own, can feel much more memorable - they simply are not just good, but also perfectly fit to the events on-screen. That's how plot-based games, when done right, can leave an impression so lasting you'd be able to see the scenes from the game/movie when you just hear the track somewhere. Star Wars' Duel of Fates is made that much stronger by the scene it is in; Serious Sam's First and Second Encounters' somewhat repetitive music is that much more memorable because of how perfectly it syncs with gameplay, as is the oppressive spirit of the first two Dooms, oddness and fantasy-ness of Heretic being amplified by the game's design, or the drive and action of Doom'16's music fitting well with the action.

The list can go on and on. Since all of this is subjective on both person level and presentation level, no, we can't really all agree that it sucks - and not because of 'blindly fanboying over a favorite game of ours' (personally, I'd even agree that mission music isn't really all that fitting oftentimes, so I have mission music muted, starting up either the IDKFA remastered musiv from Doom1, or some of more action-ey music from other franchises like the aforementioned Serious Sam, something like Destiny, Star Wars and so on) - but rather, because it's not really all that possible to say that "Something[A objectively sucks and there isn't a single person who would disagree nor any redeeming quality that makes it the least bit like the amazing Something-B" because that would simply be a lie.

[Artek [General]]

This Is What You Are is actually very good.

But everything else is so bland and generic that i have ingame music slider on 0 and listen to my own music or even to youtube videos.

[Kawalorn]

Yeah there isn't much music that's good to listen on it's own (pretty much only "This Is What You Are" and "Corrupted", at least for me) but other music is pretty good at creating ambience, which also is admirable.

[AnonumusSoldier]

Guys let's just face it, the only music worth listening to while playing Warframe anyway is scandanavian/celtic war music

[Sceles]

Warframe has very great music that fits the game excellently. If you claim something else then I'm sorry to say, but YOU HAVE NO TASTE.

Doom is in a league of its own and should not be used as an example when comparing video game music. The rest of your examples are roughly on par with Warframe, except for Touhou. Touhou's music is incredibly generic... I have heard only a few good tracks and I think all of them have been remixes or covers.

[Sleepy Yoshi]

Originally posted by JCTiger0:

Originally posted by OUIIJM GUIITPS:

https://youtu.be/a6BbvCC0VI0 Sorry, I think Mick Gordon has him beaten

generic, edgy, repetative. that about sums it up. my review of this music (first time lisening to it) is that it's okay to moderite and won't transition well into any other music so it's bad for game music inless the whole level is as intens as the music or you find some way to magicaly transiton it to calmer music. warframe music is mostly okay to moderite with some great music so if thats the best doom music you can come up with warframes got doom beat.

What Gordon has accomplished is to capture the essence of Doom. It truely accentuates the game play experience and is meant to make you feel like a badarse as you cut demons in half with a chainsaw or smash their brains out with your fists etc. The audio design for the game is top notch, without a doubt.

I would certainly prefer to listen to WF outside of the game though, as Doom's soundtrack is not the type of music I enjoy. But in terms of encapsulating the game I don't think there's a real comparison to be made.

[Sceles]

Originally posted by Pusheen:

Originally posted by Sceles:

Touhou's music is incredibly generic... I have heard only a few good tracks and I think all of them have been remixes or covers.

All of them are ZUN's original you ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Down's patient.
It's laughable how Warframe's fanbase have all the balls to say "Touhou music is generic" all the while praising the generic sci-fi drums that was around for as long as Half Life and Unreal.

Also, there's probably a good reason why Touhou scored the 3rd result on the phrase "Crowning music of awesome" and Warframe is on the nth page...

I hope you have actually listened to the original video game versions and are not just claiming this out of your @ss. Even the most popular version of Bad Apple is a remix. Just saying.

[Anonn 20 16]

Originally posted by Pusheen:

DE apologists will fawn over their beloved game and insist that their composer can do no wrong.

i like how you opened with this to cover your a$s because i'm pretty sure you expected people to offer resistance to this. every single person trying to call out something in this game and in any game really categorizes everyone that does not agree as funboys and apologists... this is idiotic to say the least.

you fail to understand that music is NOT something you can agree or disagree about. your ears are your own with their unique likes and dislikes. my ears in particular love some of what they hear in this game and dislike some other so you get a big X from me. many say beyonce is a music queen, i call her garbo bimbo but that's just my opinion.. everything is not for everyone.