Aura forma costs

[Danté]

4 Forma, 10 Nitain and an argon crystal.

Is this an out-of-season April Fools joke DE?

[Grey Star, The Rival Defender]

Origineel geplaatst door Anubis:

Origineel geplaatst door Rays of Apollo:

In the scope of the thread, I would think that people only don't like needing to spend 4 forma. I don't have nitain, but people make it seem like they can't get rid of it.

You're making a mod slot polarize with every single polarity all at once. You're spending 4 forma... for at least 5 polarities.


The problem you all have shouldn't be with the cost being 4 forma. I think you should be upset about foundry builds being unable to be queued and forma taking 24 hours.

Well, thing is, you may have 5 polarities, but only 2 have worthwhile auras. The Dash and the V. The D has decent auras but those are too situational, Double Dash has nothing iirc and what's left?

So yes, no good auras for other polarities make it so very few frames benefit from the universal polarity, as someone stated, Nova is one of them.

Zenruik / Double Dash has the "Brief Respite" aura which grants shield restore based on energy cost of ability, if no overshields are active. Pretty awful except on frames like Trinity and Hildryn.

[SQLOwns]

they should make the forma work on any slot, then I would probably build it.

[Skine]

Origineel geplaatst door No_Quarter:

Origineel geplaatst door Konachibi:

Let's be honest, once you get one and set it on a frame, it'll be a fun little gimmick for a couple of days, and then you'll just stick Corrosive Projection on and forget it's even a thing.
All it is really is a time-sinky and pricey method of changing the aura to a '-' polarity.

because one youtube video said it is the best and be all and end all of auras and people just continued the trend without a single question.

Luckily for for everyone, majority of people can think and/or do math so Corrosive Projection is not a top used Aura, even with all the fanboyism of "just use it by default" kind of approach.

Confirmed few times over and over, still far from it.

Not saying it is bad, just saying it is not a default aura material for all factions and and scenarios and especially now when high capacity mods are here such as Umbral mods.

Its better then most aura mods

[Rays of Apollo]

Origineel geplaatst door Anubis:

Origineel geplaatst door Rays of Apollo:

In the scope of the thread, I would think that people only don't like needing to spend 4 forma. I don't have nitain, but people make it seem like they can't get rid of it.

You're making a mod slot polarize with every single polarity all at once. You're spending 4 forma... for at least 5 polarities.


The problem you all have shouldn't be with the cost being 4 forma. I think you should be upset about foundry builds being unable to be queued and forma taking 24 hours.

Well, thing is, you may have 5 polarities, but only 2 have worthwhile auras. The Dash and the V. The D has decent auras but those are too situational, Double Dash has nothing iirc and what's left?

So yes, no good auras for other polarities make it so very few frames benefit from the universal polarity, as someone stated, Nova is one of them.

That is true, some Auras are useless, very situational and or grossly overshadowed by Warfame abilities (trinity...)-- low corpus shields, low infested speed. But, they're meant to help when stacked. Which could be good for a coordinated team.

For your point about Nova, it sucks she can't use it for much gains, but quite a few Warframes could. There are multiple Auras I'm sure you like to run, now you have more options and aren't penalized for running an aura on an incompatible frame you really like.


All I'm saying is that every one of you should put this on at least Excalibur. This will entice me to use more Auras, but more importantly, entice DE to come up with more weird Auras.

[Danté]

The cost killed my hype for the arbitration update entirely, I hate it, I won't enter arbitrations anymore. I don't want to spend a resource I need hundreds of for a gimmick like this. I was so hyped when I read the red text, yet so heavily disappointed by the cost. It doesn't make my frame stronger, and it's a sink for something that costs a DAY to craft. There's 500+ equipment in the game, each of those require 3-5 forma to be good if it's not a prime. Do the math, there's no way I can obtain enough forma anywhere near to the point that I can decide to sink in a few forma for this gimmick we've been asking the devs for years for. I'd rather argue them making this entire thing baseline for formaing the aura slot.

Deeply disappointed that this thing costs so much, for so little. Seems the community is pretty divided on this, yet I notice that it's only the veterans with near max MR's and 1000 days in that argue that this is a fine crafting cost. Been discussing this on twitter and reddit aswell, and everytime I get someone saying it's fine and we discuss further, the person argueing this is fine is MR 27 that's been playing since the start and has 100's of extra forma laying around or whatever. I get that for those people it's a joke, but no one that started playing half a year ago will be even remotely close to ever making one of these without shooting himself in the foot. I've been playing for a long time myself, yet I do see the issue, and I'm not gonna bother making one of these until the crafting costs are fixed.

[Rays of Apollo]

Forma's easy to get tho right? I mean, I'm not swimming in it. But, it's in almost every relic, 4 forma after a few public sessions shouldn't be too time consuming and grindy right?

[Danté]

Origineel geplaatst door Rays of Apollo:

Forma's easy to get tho right? I mean, I'm not swimming in it. But, it's in almost every relic, 4 forma after a few public sessions shouldn't be too time consuming and grindy right?

That's true, but you forget the crafting time. Every forma= 1 day, so if you decide to not put money into the game your total amount of obtained forma's = days played.

[Rays of Apollo]

Origineel geplaatst door Derunik:

Origineel geplaatst door Rays of Apollo:

Forma's easy to get tho right? I mean, I'm not swimming in it. But, it's in almost every relic, 4 forma after a few public sessions shouldn't be too time consuming and grindy right?

That's true, but you forget the crafting time. Every forma= 1 day, so if you decide to not put money into the game your total amount of obtained forma's = days played.

That's what I was saying earlier. The problem is foundry mechanics and forma cost, not Aura Forma cost.

The coudn't tell what the last poster was complaining about spending hundreds of, so I assumed forma. It sounded like acquiring forma was the issue for them.

[Mooman]

I can see a problem with these forma.

With the upcoming Gas city we will be facing 'amalgam dogs' whose sentient parts will give them adaptability. The players in turn can be adaptable to them via the aura slot.

However with the low drop chance and build costs will limit how many make it into builds.

Jupiter is mid range around level 20 so fairly new player friendly, but if only endgame and veterans will be able to use the forma then either the 'amalgam dogs' will be a push over or too tanky like Wolf.

The game keeps trying to cater to everyone but only ever divides the playerbase further.

[massgunner32]

Origineel geplaatst door Rays of Apollo:

Origineel geplaatst door Derunik:

That's true, but you forget the crafting time. Every forma= 1 day, so if you decide to not put money into the game your total amount of obtained forma's = days played.

That's what I was saying earlier. The problem is foundry mechanics and forma cost, not Aura Forma cost.

The coudn't tell what the last poster was complaining about spending hundreds of, so I assumed forma. It sounded like acquiring forma was the issue for them.

Ironic considering the last post i've seen complaining about the extensive and limiting system of the foundry got drowned by comments defending it to death.

[Danté]

For me it is both the nitain and forma honestly. I think I nearly made everything I want with Nitain, but still don't feel like choosing a pack of nitain over that blue potato in the NightWave shop. I need WAY more blue potato's than nitain, even at MR 24. And I already spend lots of plat on both forma and blue potato's. Nitain isn't properly farmable. I'm already past the max rank of nightwave so each week I can get 60 Wolf Credits, still don't feel like wasting that on nitain for some costly convenience item. But then on top of that, I need to spend 4 of an item that costs a day to craft, and that you need for EVERY SINGLE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT IN THE GAME. I have 110+ weapon slots and 39 warframe slots, both of those are filled. That means I have every frame in the game (I'm missing basic ash but got ash prime, I have all prime equipment but excal prime and weapons + Ankyros P, Akvasto P and Aklex P) and I like all of those weapons and frames to be end game ready. That means a whole lot of forma and potato's (all frames are potatoed). This means I won't have forma to just throw away like that. That's the problem. And I have spend alot of money on plat already, and I've bought alot of forma bundles already.

[Walkerk19]

Origineel geplaatst door Rays of Apollo:

Origineel geplaatst door Derunik:

That's true, but you forget the crafting time. Every forma= 1 day, so if you decide to not put money into the game your total amount of obtained forma's = days played.

That's what I was saying earlier. The problem is foundry mechanics and forma cost, not Aura Forma cost.

The coudn't tell what the last poster was complaining about spending hundreds of, so I assumed forma. It sounded like acquiring forma was the issue for them.

Or you know, wait for Plague Star and farm the heck out of it for forma rewards

[Rays of Apollo]

After thinking for a quite a while... I think it's possible that this new item is a very elaborate (but not entirely malicious) cash grab. This forma was leaked some time ago along with the umbra forma. Their functions weren't known, but we've seen them, and that was months and months ago. This was way before we even knew that Alerts would potentially get removed.


That means DE had A LOT of time to sit, and talk, and decided that this is how the forma was gonna act and cost. This Aura Forma isn't something that anyone will put on every frame, I believe. I think DE is betting on people only wanting this one a frame or two. They could be betting on people just thinking, "It's just for this one thing... I'll just buy the forma and get it over it with."

[Danté]

Origineel geplaatst door Walkerk19:

Origineel geplaatst door Rays of Apollo:

That's what I was saying earlier. The problem is foundry mechanics and forma cost, not Aura Forma cost.

The coudn't tell what the last poster was complaining about spending hundreds of, so I assumed forma. It sounded like acquiring forma was the issue for them.

Or you know, wait for Plague Star and farm the heck out of it for forma rewards

Can't, missed all 3 plague stars, now waiting for plague star to get those sweet plague weapons. I really like infested weapons and I'm hyped as ♥♥♥♥ for the next Night Wave because it's infested themed, so I really need those plague star parts and arcanes. Maybe the iteration after that I can just farm the ♥♥♥♥ out of the forma, but first the important stuff. I had heard of the forma farm on plague star before tho, so my initial thought was that plague star would be really soon and that this was a way to counter the heaps of forma people would get. Could still be the case, but I'll miss out on it atleast partially because I still need the other stuff from the event.

[massgunner32]

Origineel geplaatst door Rays of Apollo:

After thinking for a quite a while... I think it's possible that this new item is a very elaborate (but not entirely malicious) cash grab. This forma was leaked some time ago along with the umbra forma. Their functions weren't known, but we've seen them, and that was months and months ago. This was way before we even knew that Alerts would potentially get removed.


That means DE had A LOT of time to sit, and talk, and decided that this is how the forma was gonna act and cost. This Aura Forma isn't something that anyone will put on every frame, I believe. I think DE is betting on people only wanting this one a frame or two. They could be betting on people just thinking, "It's just for this one thing... I'll just buy the forma and get it over it with."

Nah, they never needed a relatively costfull crafting blueprint, people already spend tons of platinum on the stuff, this is likely just some silly farming schematic like the Eidolon lenz or the aphotics.