New Meta

[Secondhand Samurai]

So it looks like DE has changed the Meta game AGAIN. Which invalidates all my builds. Could someone explain to me exactly what builds and frames are still viable?

[GunsForBucks]

What are you trying to accomplish and where?

What was the old meta to you?

[Secondhand Samurai]

Diposting pertama kali oleh GunsForBucks:

What are you trying to accomplish and where?

What was the old meta to you?

Simple really, I'm trying not to ♥♥♥♥. And with the recent power bump and these Amalgam things on Stupider (Jupiter) I'm doing just that. Builds that melted high level enemies barely scratch them. Even when modded for the respective elemental weaknesses.

[maxkidd]

Diposting pertama kali oleh RedFlash913:

So it looks like DE has changed the Meta game AGAIN. Which invalidates all my builds. Could someone explain to me exactly what builds and frames are still viable?

all the frames are viable

[Secondhand Samurai]

Diposting pertama kali oleh maxkidd:

Diposting pertama kali oleh RedFlash913:

So it looks like DE has changed the Meta game AGAIN. Which invalidates all my builds. Could someone explain to me exactly what builds and frames are still viable?

all the frames are viable

What about weapons then? My orange crit Soma P does f*ck all against those Demolist things. Same with my Ignis Wraith modded for viral.

[BurlsoL]

Diposting pertama kali oleh RedFlash913:

Diposting pertama kali oleh GunsForBucks:

What are you trying to accomplish and where?

What was the old meta to you?

Simple really, I'm trying not to ♥♥♥♥. And with the recent power bump and these Amalgam things on Stupider (Jupiter) I'm doing just that. Builds that melted high level enemies barely scratch them. Even when modded for the respective elemental weaknesses.

Alternatively, you could move away from meta of the week mindset and instead try to find the builds that work best for you.

The new mods are nothing too great for normal usage. At most they help you deal with some of the riven challenges that you can't do on the new tileset and do things that look useful in Simulacrum but are kinda super specialized otherwise.

Diposting pertama kali oleh RedFlash913:

What about weapons then? My orange crit Soma P does f*ck all against those Demolist things. Same with my Ignis Wraith modded for viral.

Demolysts are a special case and have innate damage resistance. Instead of bullet hoses, look at weapons that pack a punch like Astilla, Arca Plasmor, catchmoon, and other weapons with a high per-hit damage.

[Desolator]

The demolysts are kinda silly, but they fold quite easily under a good melee weapon (both memeing strike and status work) or any ultra high damage weapon (snipers, Tigris P, etc).

As far as frames go: mesa kinda works, but falls off after a while, equinox (p), saryn (p), chroma etc all work if you want to make it easy on yourself

[Skine]

Diposting pertama kali oleh RedFlash913:

Diposting pertama kali oleh maxkidd:

all the frames are viable

What about weapons then? My orange crit Soma P does f*ck all against those Demolist things. Same with my Ignis Wraith modded for viral.

Maybe use more then just what others say is "meta" and use what you like? IF you do nothing then your builds are garbo

[maxkidd]

Diposting pertama kali oleh RedFlash913:

Diposting pertama kali oleh maxkidd:

all the frames are viable

What about weapons then? My orange crit Soma P does f*ck all against those Demolist things. Same with my Ignis Wraith modded for viral.

well they have Damage resistance so yes a weapon that already has low damage per shot would be weaker. Also adaption is a thing. Try something new or different.

[Kobrakai]

Why would you mod for viral on an ignis? Viral is good for very slow fire rate weapons like snipers because it can only proc once per enemy. Corrosive is a much better choice for ignis.

[Pakaku]

Read up on them, look at their elemental weaknesses; Alkonosts have ferrite armour, and the crewmen and MOAs are still just the same as ever in terms of health weaknesses

My choice of weapon vs Demolysts was the Prisma Grinlok, actually. High damage per shot and it takes out Demolysts pretty fast if you tend not to miss your shots

[Pakaku]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Kobrakai:

Why would you mod for viral on an ignis? Viral is good for very slow fire rate weapons like snipers because it can only proc once per enemy. Corrosive is a much better choice for ignis.

You won't really get that much mileage out of corrosive unless they're running a lot of armoured units; otherwise it's only dealing neutral damage (at least vs Corpus) when you could be dealing a better element.

Viral is actually okay vs Corpus since the humanoids are health + shields, but unless you have ways around the shields, like slash or toxin damage, it's going to be only so effective. And the Ignis is not going to deal slash unless the OP is running Hunter Munitions, and won't deal toxin since it's already balanced for viral. Heat can't bypass shields so his best bet there is Radiation

In the end it probably means the OP shouldn't be running the Ignis

[GunsForBucks]

After scanning them into the codex I found, as you would expect, Magnetic doing the most against shields. But I also found a lot of the units with the most shield were lower end anyway. I think one or two of the heavier units has a viral resistance.

After a lot of considerations I felt going with something that had neither a bonus or a minus would probably be best. And seeing as how this is a swarm mode I personally chose Electric on a lot of stuff. But weapons like the Arca Plasmor can hit so hard it wouldn't matter if you went with radiation honestly.

[Zuhan]

I just use my Rhino and my Eidolin Killing Lanka against the new enemies. 1 hit dead.

[primobrainlet]

Why do people bother with the meta at this point, its just gonna get nerfed, just find a weapon you like and use it

[No_Quarter]

Diposting pertama kali oleh RedFlash913:

Simple really, I'm trying not to ♥♥♥♥

way to reach that is NOT to ask on forum what is meta, it is to git gud and start noticing what is good where and what makes YOU preform good.