Warframe
Best archgun for normal missions?
I've been using imperator vandal since it looks the most "heavy" gun
I've been hearing that the Phaedra actually does better in atmosphere since it has really good status

oh and dont include Larkspur ik its really really strong but i don't like how the archgun feels when firing
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Well since you eliminated the obvious one...

Fluctus? I saw some amazing things done with it. The projectile is huge so you can eliminate a lot of enemies with a single shot.
Отредактировано Kawalorn; 6 мая. 2019 г. в 7:27
I also love the Grattler, especially on PoE when you kill the Grineers Air Vehicles with a friggin FLAK-cannon
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Fluctus or the amprex
amprex is not a archgun bruh
Like the Lanka? Give the Velocitus a try. Oddly enough, while I'd only touch an Imperator, a Grattler or a Fluctus for space combat, all the rest are reasonably ok for ground combat. Grattler, Larkspur and Velocitus are stand-outs in that context.
No_Quarter (Заблокирован) 6 мая. 2019 г. в 9:07 
After doing 3-5 Forma on most of them, apart from Cyngas, I can say this:

1) Dual Decurions are all round best archgun for a random mission. Has high damage per shot, a lot of ammo, short reload, no need to spin up to get DPS but up to lvl 60+ you gonna one shot most enemies with a headshot. Sounds amazing too.

2) Phaedra has less pin up time than Imperator and sounds better. With rivens introduced Phaedra seems like it can beat it at any front as with 14% critical chance you will be able to reach 45% which is pretty good with amount of status it has.
I am yet to obtain such riven to try that build but with it it just sounds like be all and end all as hybrid build beats any other build for random mission and Phaedra is a true hybrid with a riven..
Dual Decurions seem to beat it in ammo efficiency tho which is a considerable stat imo as you can only use that weapon so much.

3) Fluctus - fun, but no ammo.

4) Velocitus - hits hard but not worth it, charge cannot seem to beat Euphona Prime and you have to charge it so meh. Maybe with a riven and Chroma you can do Tridolons with it. Not like better than snipers but you can do it.

5) Grattler - fun, until you kill your self. Pretty damn strong tho, really had fun with it but yuo need to watch what you shoot.

6) Imperator Vandal - takes too long to spin up so DPS actually feels worse than it is, very good for Profit Taker as you actually get to spin up. Ammo efficiency feels very bad imo for generic use.

7) Larkspur - if you cannot aim DE has weapon for you! Just lick LMB and it will hit someone and chain up every enemy in 1km radius! Not sure who thought it was a good idea but nonetheless any noob proof weapon will become meta and such is Larkspur. Strong, but I do not see any fun with it, actually gave up on doing full forma on after one or two of them as it is insulting how stupid it is.

8) Corvas. Hits like a truck. Not all that fun to use, having that kickback after it fires is fun for 30 seconds, then you start to wish you could actually ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ move properly

9) Cyngas. It's a burst archgun. The ♥♥♥♥ were they thinking.... if they were at all.... Has pretty high damage per shot but as you usually kill a target with one shot other 2 get wasted and that piles up to a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ experience. Bad experience imho.

I only talked about generic play and random mission usage, I heard Corvas is good for Profit Taker but ♥♥♥♥ using that gun in missions.
Отредактировано No_Quarter; 6 мая. 2019 г. в 9:10
Larkspur, by a huge margin. It's like Ignis or Amprex, but a little bit better.


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8) Corvas. Hits like a truck. Not all that fun to use, having that kickback after it fires is fun for 30 seconds, then you start to wish you could actually ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ move properly

I only talked about generic play and random mission usage, I heard Corvas is good for Profit Taker but ♥♥♥♥ using that gun in missions.
You don't need to charge Corvas. Charging it actually doesn't make much sense because a charged shot deals only twice as much dmg and in the same time it takes to charge it you can fire two regular shots. And like you said, Corvas has huge stagger on charged shot which further hurts its dps, thus making the charged fire much worse than regular fire.
Отредактировано Sceles; 6 мая. 2019 г. в 9:45
No_Quarter (Заблокирован) 6 мая. 2019 г. в 9:57 
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You don't need to charge Corvas. Charging it actually doesn't make much sense because a charged shot deals only twice as much dmg and in the same time it takes to charge it you can fire two regular shots. And like you said, Corvas has huge stagger on charged shot which further hurts its dps, thus making the charged fire much worse than regular fire.
in any scenario I struggle to see a use case where Corvas is the answer
GunsForBucks (Заблокирован) 6 мая. 2019 г. в 10:13 
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You don't need to charge Corvas. Charging it actually doesn't make much sense because a charged shot deals only twice as much dmg and in the same time it takes to charge it you can fire two regular shots. And like you said, Corvas has huge stagger on charged shot which further hurts its dps, thus making the charged fire much worse than regular fire.
in any scenario I struggle to see a use case where Corvas is the answer
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Fluctus is absurd for ground combat. As long as you can kind of guess where an enemy is, you can hit them no matter how many walls are between you and them and they are within the duration of the projectile's flight time. Excellent for cleaning up stragglers between Interception rounds and at the end of Defense waves.
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Fluctus or the amprex
amprex is not a archgun bruh
yeap it is
Автор сообщения: No_Quarter
in any scenario I struggle to see a use case where Corvas is the answer

It excels for Profit-Taker fights.

Mod it with the crit mods, including Critical Focus, and you have a 104% crit chance, 6.2x crit multiplier when aiming. 2 quick uncharged shots destroy a leg in 1 second. With damage boost, 1 shot is enough. It is also great to quickly send all the corpus units flying back with a single shot shot. All this without a riven. I don't recommend ever using its charge attack, that hurts its own dps.

Velocitus in comparison requires charging and is pure elemental damage, lacking IPS, making it less versatile for different damage modding for hitting the profit taker shield's current weakness. It hits very hard but not as quickly, as expected from a sniper weapon.




All the archguns are fine they way they are, just a matter of weapon type preference for each player and for what mission type they are better suited for. Rated from best to worst Riven disposition:

4.Cyngas is the Sybaris
4. Dual Decurion is Twin Grakatas
4. Phaedra is a status Soma
3. Velocitus is the Lanka
3. Corvas is the Hek
3. Grattler is kinda like Zarr
3. Fluctus is unique, closest thing comparable is Excalibur's Exalted Blade
2. Imperator is the default full auto hitscan rifle like Braton
2. Larkspur is the Amprex

Pick the one that suits your playstyle based on the weapons I compared them with.
No_Quarter (Заблокирован) 6 мая. 2019 г. в 11:51 
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4.Cyngas is the Sybaris
4. Dual Decurion is Twin Grakatas
4. Phaedra is a status Soma
3. Velocitus is the Lanka
3. Corvas is the Hek
3. Grattler is kinda like Zarr
3. Fluctus is unique, closest thing comparable is Excalibur's Exalted Blade
2. Imperator is the default full auto hitscan rifle like Braton
2. Larkspur is the Amprex

Pick the one that suits your playstyle based on the weapons I compared them with.
Twin Grakatas cannot be controlled and have ♥♥♥♥♥♥ ammo efficiency and even more ♥♥♥♥♥♥ reload time - it is basically a high burst DPS weapon with a lot of drawbacks, Dual Decurions are NOT such a weapon. It is an auto rifle that is good when fire with single shots and general all-rounder with no drawbacks.

So really bad example. Really.

As for Cyngas, I said what I said, Profit Taker is not your general use case and I do not care for one mission if you end up wasting most of your ammo in every other mission which, for weapons with limited ammo is bad for RANDOM scenarios. Many other archguns preform as good or better with being more efficient.
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in any scenario I struggle to see a use case where Corvas is the answer
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Отредактировано No_Quarter; 6 мая. 2019 г. в 11:54
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Hi Myst,
I have to correct you that Dual Decurion is more akin to Prisma Twin Gremlin. It also has a high crit chance like the twin grakatas but better ammo efficiency and accuracy.

FTFY.

Civility and emotional self-control is hard for some I guess.
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Автор сообщения: No_Quarter
Hi Myst,
I have to correct you that Dual Decurion is more akin to Prisma Twin Gremlin. It also has a high crit chance like the twin grakatas but better ammo efficiency and accuracy.

FTFY.

Civility and emotional self-control is hard for some I guess.
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