Are the Sortie Endo/Kuva rewards too little?

[east coast obama]

This is just my personal opinion.

6000 Kuva isn't enough for even 2 rolls on a Riven that costs 3500 Kuva per roll.
It would also be nice if the Endo reward was increased, even just by a little bit.
As for the Ayatan statues - could they at least be filled with stars right away when we get them? They are worth less than the Endo reward anyway (3450 when filled).

What's your opinion on this?

[Omnipresent Oatmeal]

Sorties shouldn't be your primary income of Endo and/or Kuva.
The rewards are fine as-is.

[SomoneSuspicious]

While I agree that sorties shouldnt be your only source of Kuva/Endo, I also think that bumping the Kuva reward up to 7k wouldnt hurt anyone either.
Tbh I view the Ayatan Sculpture more as a bit of plat on the side. It's worse than the normal endo reward if you actually still need the stuff.... but I'm sitting at 350k endo with no mods to spend it on, so I'd rather get the Anasa since I can sell the damn thing to some poor schmuck that sold his soul to the riven trade :P

[No_Quarter]

yes, getting 50k+ Endo per month is not enough....

as for Kuva, well, I would not mind more but I feel like it is in place.
Note that I have 90/90 rivens with most of them in use so if anyone needs Kuva then it's me.

[^3Tinkles]

Originally posted by No_Quarter:

yes, getting 50k+ Endo per month is not enough....

as for Kuva, well, I would not mind more but I feel like it is in place.
Note that I have 90/90 rivens with most of them in use so if anyone needs Kuva then it's me.

I'd say bumping up kuva to be 2-3 rolls worth would be fair. Everything else is fine, in my opinion.

[massgunner32]

The kuva is fine, is a lot more than you get from a regular mission, but endo can go ♥♥♥♥ a cactus, is literally everywhere and there is Anasa already, it would be nice if they merged it with the Forma reward.

[FALLENV3GAS]

Originally posted by No_Quarter:

yes, getting 50k+ Endo per month is not enough....

as for Kuva, well, I would not mind more but I feel like it is in place.
Note that I have 90/90 rivens with most of them in use so if anyone needs Kuva then it's me.

One Primed mod is around 40k so yeah, that's not a great case for not bumping up the rewards.

[Hawk]

Originally posted by SomoneSuspicious:

While I agree that sorties shouldnt be your only source of Kuva/Endo, I also think that bumping the Kuva reward up to 7k wouldnt hurt anyone either.
Tbh I view the Ayatan Sculpture more as a bit of plat on the side. It's worse than the normal endo reward if you actually still need the stuff.... but I'm sitting at 350k endo with no mods to spend it on, so I'd rather get the Anasa since I can sell the damn thing to some poor schmuck that sold his soul to the riven trade :P

Agreed, plus considering how annoying some of the sorties turn out to be the rewards are really not very compelling. If I'm going to work for something I want it to seem like the time that I spend it worth while not a consolation prize at the end of a possibly rough 3 missions.

[No_Quarter]

Originally posted by FALLENV3GAS:

Originally posted by No_Quarter:

yes, getting 50k+ Endo per month is not enough....

as for Kuva, well, I would not mind more but I feel like it is in place.
Note that I have 90/90 rivens with most of them in use so if anyone needs Kuva then it's me.

One Primed mod is around 40k so yeah, that's not a great case for not bumping up the rewards.

yeah, how many primed mods you obtain per month?
How much platinum you can make from that endo? I will help you with this one, 300+ with ease.

That means, just by logging in and spending 20 minutes per day you get GUARANTEED 300+ platinum per month.
That is just under 20 dollars worth of platinum. Per month. 100% guaranteed.

Whoever says that is bad has done meth instead of math or just failed at market, one deluxe pack per month and bunch of slots being "not enough" seems rather like a resource mismanagement to me.

Originally posted by ^3Tinkles:

Originally posted by No_Quarter:

yes, getting 50k+ Endo per month is not enough....

as for Kuva, well, I would not mind more but I feel like it is in place.
Note that I have 90/90 rivens with most of them in use so if anyone needs Kuva then it's me.

I'd say bumping up kuva to be 2-3 rolls worth would be fair. Everything else is fine, in my opinion.

for 20 minutes I do not think it should be more, also, why are people taking into account 10+ rolls only? You get about 7 rivens per month so you will have options to roll other rivens.

So MAYBE +1k to get that 2 rolls, but Kuva is endgame and I do not think 20 minutes and some RNG should give more, it is basically like running 20 minutes of Kuva Survival with a resource booster.

I do not see it being bad, for those who do not run the booster it is better, for those who do it is still a good value.

I do want more Kuva and more options to get Kuva, but per time played I do not think it should be more.

[FALLENV3GAS]

Originally posted by No_Quarter:

Originally posted by FALLENV3GAS:

One Primed mod is around 40k so yeah, that's not a great case for not bumping up the rewards.

yeah, how many primed mods you obtain per month?
How much platinum you can make from that endo? I will help you with this one, 300+ with ease.

That means, just by logging in and spending 20 minutes per day you get GUARANTEED 300+ platinum per month.
That is just under 20 dollars worth of platinum. Per month. 100% guaranteed.

Whoever says that is bad has done meth instead of math or just failed at market, one deluxe pack per month and bunch of slots being "not enough" seems rather like a resource mismanagement to me.

Originally posted by ^3Tinkles:

I'd say bumping up kuva to be 2-3 rolls worth would be fair. Everything else is fine, in my opinion.

for 20 minutes I do not think it should be more, also, why are people taking into account 10+ rolls only? You get about 7 rivens per month so you will have options to roll other rivens.

So MAYBE +1k to get that 2 rolls, but Kuva is endgame and I do not think 20 minutes and some RNG should give more, it is basically like running 20 minutes of Kuva Survival with a resource booster.

I do not see it being bad, for those who do not run the booster it is better, for those who do it is still a good value.

I do want more Kuva and more options to get Kuva, but per time played I do not think it should be more.

There are quite a few Primed Mods though so the point still stands.

Not to mention, if you need the Endo, you wouldn't be going for platinum. Don't know why that was brought into the subject...

[Pakaku]

Sortie Kuva + ten minutes of solo Kuva Survival (assuming one siphon per minute) can easily cover 7,000 Kuva total for two rolls. So it's not the best situation, but I think it's manageable.

[No_Quarter]

Originally posted by FALLENV3GAS:

There are quite a few Primed Mods though so the point still stands.

Not to mention, if you need the Endo, you wouldn't be going for platinum. Don't know why that was brought into the subject...

because it was claimed Endo rewards did not have a good value - and it actually does have a good value. If you want to buy that amount of Endo that is how much it's worth. If you need plat you may leave your mod on R9 and get 300 plat....

As your answer on Prime Mods, you wrote something that is not an answer to a question I asked.

Sortie is not meant to give you all the endo in the world, like what would be the point of playing other missions to get it? Value is there, wanting more than that makes no sense to me, like, you want to max out all your prime mods after like 10 sortie missions? Makes no sense to me.

[FALLENV3GAS]

Originally posted by No_Quarter:

Originally posted by FALLENV3GAS:

There are quite a few Primed Mods though so the point still stands.

Not to mention, if you need the Endo, you wouldn't be going for platinum. Don't know why that was brought into the subject...

because it was claimed Endo rewards did not have a good value - and it actually does have a good value. If you want to buy that amount of Endo that is how much it's worth. If you need plat you may leave your mod on R9 and get 300 plat....

As your answer on Prime Mods, you wrote something that is not an answer to a question I asked.

Sortie is not meant to give you all the endo in the world, like what would be the point of playing other missions to get it? Value is there, wanting more than that makes no sense to me, like, you want to max out all your prime mods after like 10 sortie missions? Makes no sense to me.

...but you can't buy Endo, just statues which are a few plat each... so what's your point?

"As your answer on Prime Mods, you wrote something that is not an answer to a question I asked."

You mentioned that you roughly get 50k Endo per month from sorties, 40k Endo is needed to fully rank up ONE Primed Mod. So if you are saying that's a good amount, just straight up stop lying.

"Sortie is not meant to give you all the Endo in the world, like what would be the point of playing other missions to get it? Value is there, wanting more than that makes no sense to me, like, you want to max out all your prime mods after like 10 sortie missions? Makes no sense to me."

No but it's still meant to be worthwhile since it's in Sorties (sort of Endgame content) so it should be good not laughable like it is. Either remove it or make it worthwhile.

[Sterling]

Considering the sculpture needs stars and, if memory doesn't fail me, the most juiced one is 3,9K endo, the 4K endo reward just sounds a little bit stupid. I also don't take part in the whole Riven ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and think all that purple garbage could die in a fire, so kuva isn't exactly on top of my list as an "useful" resource. Then we have the exilus adapter, forma and catalyst/reactor, all of which are more easily obtainable by trading two archwing weapon parts from syndicates and having a guaranteed one for you, no dumb luck generator involved. I like the endo, I like the booster and I like the core, but the rest of the rewards just feels underwhelming and makes me question why I should play sorties. Sure, some snarky idiot could come with "they're not forcing you to play it", but when it's one of the few remaining high level enemy places, it offers a short time of an already artificial challenge for often poor rewards.

Originally posted by Omnipresent Oatmeal:

The rewards are fine as-is.

Speak for yourself.

[No_Quarter]

Originally posted by FALLENV3GAS:

...but you can't buy Endo, just statues which are a few plat each... so what's your point?

"As your answer on Prime Mods, you wrote something that is not an answer to a question I asked."

You mentioned that you roughly get 50k Endo per month from sorties, 40k Endo is needed to fully rank up ONE Primed Mod. So if you are saying that's a good amount, just straight up stop lying.

"Sortie is not meant to give you all the Endo in the world, like what would be the point of playing other missions to get it? Value is there, wanting more than that makes no sense to me, like, you want to max out all your prime mods after like 10 sortie missions? Makes no sense to me."

No but it's still meant to be worthwhile since it's in Sorties (sort of Endgame content) so it should be good not laughable like it is. Either remove it or make it worthwhile.

You cannot buy endo but you CAN buy statues - now go on, process, what can happen after?

17 Anasas per month are well over 50k of endo, that is without Endo reward it self.

If YOU do not find it worth while - does not mean it is not, it only means you suck at math.
Endo is nearly GUARANTEED reward, main progression thingy is guaranteed and option to get tons of plat in guaranteed with a chance to get better stuff.
For up to 20 minutes of your time.
It is laughable that you EXPECT more, like, where you can get more of it reliably? You can't, it is pretty close but marginal.

If you do not find it worthwhile - why do you play it?
And other question I have, now much Endo is worthwhile to you for 10-20 minutes of gameplay that also has a chance to give you 2k Rubico riven?

[No_Quarter]

A lot of people seem to find it worthwhile as they only login for sortie - notice the player peak at sortie time? yeah, not making much sense paired with your thoughts @fallenvegas , clean stats, visible to anyone - everyone plays it.