Atterax is dead so I need a new melee

[Tickles]

Please tell me which melee is the best to have rn

If there is a youtube vid please share the link

And if it's a zaw melee please mention the parts

[Yeti.^^]

At this point in time?Anything is good,really.
DE went kinda overboard with that buff.
I took some random Hate i had in my inventory, and it had no issues killing stuff over 70+ lvls with 2-3 mods in it.

[cy]

Caustacyst
Spam heavy attack ftw

[Sceles]

Any build that does not have both Condition Overload and Blood Rush is a flawed build.
Any build that uses some other base dmg mod in addition to Condition Overload is a flawed build.
Any build that uses some other crit chance mod in addition to Blood Rush is a flawed build.

This new iteration of melee sure is great! /s

[SneakyErvin]

引用自 Sceles：

Any build that does not have both Condition Overload and Blood Rush is a flawed build.
Any build that uses some other base dmg mod in addition to Condition Overload is a flawed build.
Any build that uses some other crit chance mod in addition to Blood Rush is a flawed build.

This new iteration of melee sure is great! /s

You can easily wipe out full groups of level 140 CHG's and C-Bombs in seconds with extremely basic builds on several weapons in the new system. You just need to find the right stance for the job on each weapon.

So far I've gone with 3x60/60 for viral+heat, CO, PPP, PR, PF and Healing Return on several weapons. Gram Prime being the one where I drop a 60/60 heat mod for Berserker instead.

Weapons I've tried to far that absolutely melts those mods are.

Reaper Prime, Nami Skyla Prime, Venka Prime, Orthos Prime, Galatine Prime, Gram Prime, Kronen Prime and Lesion. Most being weapons that wree extremely lackluster prior to the new melee system and now outperform some of the stronger weapon of the old system without needing a riven to do it.

[Sceles]

引用自 SneakyErvin：

引用自 Sceles：

Any build that does not have both Condition Overload and Blood Rush is a flawed build.
Any build that uses some other base dmg mod in addition to Condition Overload is a flawed build.
Any build that uses some other crit chance mod in addition to Blood Rush is a flawed build.

This new iteration of melee sure is great! /s

You can easily wipe out full groups of level 140 CHG's and C-Bombs in seconds with extremely basic builds on several weapons in the new system. You just need to find the right stance for the job on each weapon.

So far I've gone with 3x60/60 for viral+heat, CO, PPP, PR, PF and Healing Return on several weapons. Gram Prime being the one where I drop a 60/60 heat mod for Berserker instead.

Weapons I've tried to far that absolutely melts those mods are.

Reaper Prime, Nami Skyla Prime, Venka Prime, Orthos Prime, Galatine Prime, Gram Prime, Kronen Prime and Lesion. Most being weapons that wree extremely lackluster prior to the new melee system and now outperform some of the stronger weapon of the old system without needing a riven to do it.

I don't think you understood what I said.

There is NO POINT in using Primed Pressure Point since it gives only +165% base dmg while Condition Overload gives 120% for each status effect on the target. They are now both base dmg mods, on the same multiplier. 165% is nothing compared to 600%+ the Condition Overload can give. Same goes for Blood Rush, it's now the only proper crit chance mod. Even 5 dispo rivens pale in comparison to Blood Rush. And since no other mod can bump the crit chance of a weapon up from 20% to 100% Blood Rush is required if you don't want your build to suck. Focusing solely on Condition Overload has diminishing returns because every status effect is now just an increase in base dmg(instead of the old 1,6 * 1,6 * 1,6 * etc. calculation).

[Aegix Drakan]

引用自 Rahlence：

引用自 Ѧʟooғнerмɪт：

what did they do to atterax? are there any top tier whips at all now?

They murdered maiming strike and toned down crit scaling in general. True Steel, Blood Rush, and Maiming strike are all additive with each other now.

This explains where all my crit went. XD

[Totally Innocent Chatbot]

引用自 Rahlence：

So Blood Rush is basically the one crit chance mod you want.

Blood Rush was always the only crit chance mod you wanted on any weapon that didn't use Memeing Strike. True Steel was always garbage, the amount of CC it gave in exchange for using up a mod slot was absolutely pitiful. Never worth using instead of Organ Shatter for as long as Blood Rush existed.

[SneakyErvin]

引用自 Sceles：

I don't think you understood what I said.

There is NO POINT in using Primed Pressure Point since it gives only +165% base dmg while Condition Overload gives 120% for each status effect on the target. They are now both base dmg mods, on the same multiplier. 165% is nothing compared to 600%+ the Condition Overload can give. Same goes for Blood Rush, it's now the only proper crit chance mod. Even 5 dispo rivens pale in comparison to Blood Rush. And since no other mod can bump the crit chance of a weapon up from 20% to 100% Blood Rush is required if you don't want your build to suck. Focusing solely on Condition Overload has diminishing returns because every status effect is now just an increase in base dmg(instead of the old 1,6 * 1,6 * 1,6 * etc. calculation).

There is always the point in using it in a basic working setup. CO and PPP are far easier to come by than BR since neither is locked behind an event or a specific mob that has a timegate to it. Yes you can buy it, but the difference between it and PPP is minimal in the new system on status heavy slash weapons.

If you have BR then yes it is a good replacement for PPP, if you dont have it you are just as safe with PPP. And for BR to actually work well you will need the arbitration aura for longer combo duration in most content, and make sure to not use your air slam heavy attack (which hits for insane amounts and suspends targets).

[BK Randy]

you can actually just use the atterax. replace meme strike with weeping wounds and primed pressure point with condition overload, tada. (yes atterax has only 20% status chance, but that's still 100% at 12x combo with weeping wounds lmao)

I suspected before the nerfs that even after being nerfed it was still going to be hard to compete with slide attack spam, because it just offers so much mobility and constant heavy AoE damage that they'd have to completely nerf it into Narnia to compete. and indeed, while they did nerf it a very noticeable amount, IMO it just went from stupid broken obviously OP -> not stupid broken but still the best general-purpose option.

it's got less range and sometimes it won't one-shot beefier enemies. and you won't really see the pretty red numbers anymore. but it still gets the job done just fine. even tho there's no explicit bonus to slide attacks now I still just spam slide attacks for the AoE + mobility, seems to still work the best. I still end every mission having done way more damage/racked up way more kills than everyone else, barring those times an AoE frame is nuking everything, and even then I tend to roughly tie.

[Forza Piadina]

Venka prime with malicious raptor is the best weapon right now(only single daggers with a riven and Heavy Attack build are probably) and you don't even need a riven to kill level 200 enemies with it.. it's the only weapon i use now without a riven. you just need 2 forma.

With primed reach this stance has insane reach.
Absurd crits.
Every combo has innate slash proc.
Stupidly fast.
The CC raises in few seconds.
Even the heavy attack has innate slash.

Just use a viral build an try to kill a (level 165)demolist machinist with it. it's super fast!

[underscore]

I got an Arca Titron riven recently so I built and tried the weapon. It's hilarious with Quickening and Berserker, mostly for fun. My next project is formaing Venka Prime because of the good things I've heard.

[Ghin]

why even replace atterax? you just need to mod it for heavy attack instead of whatever you were doing before

[Hangman]

Nikana Prime

[Anchored at Hell]

dual ichor

[Forza Piadina]

引用自 Ghin：

why even replace atterax? you just need to mod it for heavy attack instead of whatever you were doing before

Because he probably wants the same easy way to wipe out entire maps using macros and maiming strike...