Vectis or Vectis prime

[Hiroshi]

I heard a lot about the fact that both are good and sometimes that one is better than the other.

Would the Vectis be better than it's counter part the Vectis prime ?

Since it's vaulted and I don't know when it will be available again I wonder if building a Vectis would be worthwhile or waiting for the Vectis prime to unvault again.

I have a riven for it if that helps.

[Pakaku]

Vectis Prime is statistically better unless you deeply care about the sniper combo, but stock holds up very well, so you can be safe holding off on the prime until it's unvaulted

Nice to have a riven, but it's not necessary

[Walrus-Sama]

Vectis is pretty solid. Vectis Prime is just a straight upgrade though.

Get both if you can.

[Watermelons]

Unlike Prime Warframes, Prime weapons pretty typically upgrades over their base versions. Only between Primes and other upgraded versions ( Syndicate, Prisma, Wraith, Vandal ) will you see sidegrades rather than straight upgrades.

[Ryu the Fox]

Well... Vectis works much better with Charged/Primed Chamber than the Vectis Prime

[Handoiron]

Originally posted by Ryu the Fox:

Well... Vectis works much better with Charged/Primed Chamber than the Vectis Prime

Primed chamber might be worth using, that's probably why it's unobtainable now.

Charged chamber isn't really that great with all of the other 8th mod slot fillers available now.

You can still manually reload Vectis Prime or get - mag capacity from depleted reload / riven "negative".

Either way, 1.4x damage on first shot isn't that great considering the use of 1 slot for the chamber mod and either the annoyance of manual reload or another slot for depleted reload or the pain of rolling riven till it's got neg mag capacity plus good positives.

[Hiroshi]

Okay, I see. Any way to know when Vectis prime will see an unvault or is it just random ?

[Smokey]

Only a few weapons of the original are worth keeping since they can be quite different but rest just sell em when you get prime/etc versions and keep them

[Kamen Kreuz]

Originally posted by Handoiron:

Either way, 1.4x damage on first shot isn't that great considering the use of 1 slot for the chamber mod and either the annoyance of manual reload or another slot for depleted reload or the pain of rolling riven till it's got neg mag capacity plus good positives.

I did some testing a while back and came to a similar conclusion. Primed Chamber+Vectis Prime with -50% mag cap sounds really good on paper, but it turns out to only be better than a normal set of mods if you have a perfect riven for it. And even then, having -mag size on said riven is not better than a throwaway like stat -zoom or -status duration. It's better to fire two shots with only one of them dealing +100% than to always fire a single shot dealing +100%. Additionally, Depleted Reload and not-primed Chamber are never worth taking over something that just adds damage.
Obviously this is just min-maxing, and if anyone reading this wants to make a single shot Vectis build, go right ahead. The thing does so much damage it hardly matters anyway.

[Hiroshi]

Originally posted by Kreuzfahrer:

Originally posted by Handoiron:

Either way, 1.4x damage on first shot isn't that great considering the use of 1 slot for the chamber mod and either the annoyance of manual reload or another slot for depleted reload or the pain of rolling riven till it's got neg mag capacity plus good positives.

I did some testing a while back and came to a similar conclusion. Primed Chamber+Vectis Prime with -50% mag cap sounds really good on paper, but it turns out to only be better than a normal set of mods if you have a perfect riven for it. And even then, having -mag size on said riven is not better than a throwaway like stat -zoom or -status duration. It's better to fire two shots with only one of them dealing +100% than to always fire a single shot dealing +100%. Additionally, Depleted Reload and not-primed Chamber are never worth taking over something that just adds damage.
Obviously this is just min-maxing, and if anyone reading this wants to make a single shot Vectis build, go right ahead. The thing does so much damage it hardly matters anyway.

I feel like for star chart mission or even sortie enemies (fodder and heavy alike) that kind of build would be overkill. Not the same type of weapon but a tombefinger with a riven just melts through anything even at level 120. Might need to add a corrosive damage on top of the radiation to cover both armor types but at more than 150% crit chance even without a crit damage riven it's overkill.

A primed chamber build seems like it would be used for an eidolon hunt if you want to spend 20k plat.

[Kamen Kreuz]

Originally posted by Hiroshi:

I feel like for star chart mission or even sortie enemies (fodder and heavy alike) that kind of build would be overkill.

Oh definitely. Like I mentioned in the spoiler, the Vectis is so good that it doesn't matter too much anyway. It's all theorycraft to show when Charged Chamber, Primed Chamber, and/or -mag size would be optimal on a Vectis (being never, always, and never, respectively.)

[Nijuu]

was wondering this myself since i love the vectis...and received the vectis prime blueprint as reward from group relic..now for the parts....